Continental Defence Corvette

[Kirkhill]

Continental threat revisions.

China’s New Underwater Drones Could Threaten West Coast U.S. - Naval News

The vast expanse of the Pacific Ocean, over 5,000 nautical miles across, protects the West Coast of the United States against Chinese naval forces in the event of a war. The appearance of new extra-extra-large underwater drones (XXLUUVs) changes this, providing China with low-risk options to...

www.navalnews.com

 

[GR66]

I think this is the idea.

It communicates this fact to everyone else through data link.

People seem to be under the misunderstanding that ships do anti submarine warfare on their own. Let me make this clear. A ship doing anti submarine warfare on its own is probably DEAD.

I don't know how many times I need to say this, but ASW is a full team sport.

The team will be task groups assigned to ASW. And that could consist of a Patrol Submarine, 2-3x CDC, 1 RCD and an MPA. Maybe an AOPS to launch and recover UUV's that patrol areas. They will work in conjunction over an area, detect enemy subs and then as a team deal with the problem. Or its also very likely that they detect submarines at ranges where they can't interact with them (sonar does this with ducting sometimes). In that case its one sensor hit in the sensor net and other things are needed to define that contact.

The other thing is that perhaps the CDC isn't an ASW specialist, the new submarines are the specialists. CDC does self defense air warfare and surface warfare. Its the punch that the AOPS doesn't have and it integrates with RCD's and air assets in a network to monitor and defend Canadian waters.

I get what you're saying but what I'm trying to point out is that there seems to be a disconnect between the capabilities that are being suggested for the CDC don't match what is being proposed as the mission for the CDC.

I have yet to read anything that suggests the CDC being deployed as part of a TG consisting of multiple CDC's, an RD, an CPS and MPA's. What I've read goes from ABM platforms stationed along the coast to individual CDC's patrolling along the edge of the ice pack (far from local air cover and no mention of multi-platform Task Groups).

If the CDC is to be an ABM defence platform then no need for the ability to prosecute ASW targets. If the CDC is going to be deploying on its own in the high Arctic seeking submarines thousands of miles away from our MPA bases then maybe it becomes a priority.

Provide some clarity on what exactly these ships are supposed to do and then we can discuss what capabilities they need. The problem is Adm. Topshee seems to be throwing contradictory ideas against the wall about what these ships are meant to do to see what sticks. I don't think that's the right way to go about this.

 

[Furniture]

I have yet to read anything that suggests the CDC being deployed as part of a TG consisting of multiple CDC's, an RD, an CPS and MPA's. What I've read goes from ABM platforms stationed along the coast to individual CDC's patrolling along the edge of the ice pack (far from local air cover and no mention of multi-platform Task Groups).

If the CDC is to be an ABM defence platform then no need for the ability to prosecute ASW targets. If the CDC is going to be deploying on its own in the high Arctic seeking submarines thousands of miles away from our MPA bases then maybe it becomes a priority.

Have you considered that there is a massive difference between what a warship will be tasked to do during peace-time, and during war?

The talk of CDCs patrolling along the ice edge is a peace-time tasking to establish a well armed presence in the Arctic, not a description of the tactical deployment of the ships in war.

Talk of TGs and such is entirely in relation to employing a platform in an ASW scenario, which is also how the RCDs and CPFs would conduct ASW.

I'm pretty sure the ABM thing wasn't even from the CRCN, it was conjecture based on the new name for the idea. The RCDs aren't even being discussed as ABM platforms, and they are planned to have the radar and VLS capability to do so.

 

[Kirkhill]

And this is part of the evolving seascape in which a Continental Defence Corvette and a Canadian Patrol Submarine will be operating

ARCIMS drone launches KATFISH minehunting system

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

ARCIMs is an 11 m unmanned launch that operates off the backs of motherships. 40 kts unladen and 8 kts when towing.

Katfish is a synthetic aperture sonar that sweeps a path 400 m wide and 300 m deep.

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Cost of 1 to 2 MUSD, perhaps less.
Payload of 3000 kg
ADCAP torpedo weight of about 1700 kg.
Spearfish torpedo weight of 1800 kg
Sting Ray torpedo weight of 267 kg