Morror21502 said:But with a component transfer I understood you do not do an application. In fact I tried online and it would not let me. The CT is the application. That is submitted to D MIL C and there doesn’t seem to be any way of contacting them.
MisterBig, the para on "reduction or reversion" in rank does not apply in your case. Transferring from Cpl to OCdt is considered a promotion, not a reversion in rank, regardless of the lower pay levels for OCdt (ROTP). The other para seems pretty clear, you will be paid at a rate that is equivalent to what you would receive if you had done a straight CT, PRes to RegF, in your current NCM trade.I have seen multiple anecdotes on Cpl pay carrying over to ROTP as OCdt.
Received my offer today for Log O ROTP. I am currently a reservist with a Cpl pay rate.
The pay rate cited is Pte PI 1.
I have checked the CBIs. It sounds as if I would have received the Cpl pay rate, and that the PI was determined by days of service at the current rank. However, there is another clause:
204.015(6) (Reduction or reversion)
On reduction in rank or reversion to a lower rank, an officer or non-commissioned member shall be paid at the pay increment for that lower rank that is determined by taking into account all previous qualifying service in that rank and in any higher rank.
How is this determined? 204.015 sounds as if it is speaking only of the PI, not the rank to be paid at itself.
How does this compete with this other clause:
204.211(10) (Officer Cadet – former non-commissioned member) An officer cadet who is appointed directly to that rank from a non-commissioned rank shall be paid:
b. if after August 2018, if the member transferred from the Reserve Force to the Regular Force, at the rate of pay, including any upward adjustments to the rates of pay, in CBI 204.30 (Pay – Non-commissioned members) and:
EDIT: Found it - 204.015(7)
- if the member was a private trained, a corporal or an any greater rank, the rank, pay level and trade group that they would have received had they enrolled directly as a non-commissioned member as determined in orders or instructions issued by the Chief of the Defence Staff, at the pay increment determined by CBI 204.015 (Pay Increments)
A future reference for anyone doing CT ROTP as a Cpl/Bdr: you are not necessarily going to receive Cpl pay. A lot of people told me this was the case, and a lot of people said so online. No one said otherwise.
- has completed one year of qualifying service, or after such lesser amount of qualifying service as may be authorized by the Chief of the Defence Staff.
If you have completed LESS than 1 year of qualifying service, you will receive Pte(R) pay. Still better than OCdt but do with that what you will.
'Qualifying Service' - 1:1 Class B and Class C days | 1:4 Class A days (a Class A day is worth 25% of a Reg Force day)