Cuba next? (split from Iran, other threads)

[Kirkhill]

US blockade of Cuba - coercion through denying it fuel

Report: USCG Cutter Blocks Tanker Bound for Cuba with Vital Fuel Supply

There is no official comment from the United States, but observers tracking Cuba believe a U.S. Coast Guard cutter intercepted a tanker bound for Cuba...

maritime-executive.com

 

[YZT580]

US blockade of Cuba - coercion through denying it fuel

Report: USCG Cutter Blocks Tanker Bound for Cuba with Vital Fuel Supply

There is no official comment from the United States, but observers tracking Cuba believe a U.S. Coast Guard cutter intercepted a tanker bound for Cuba...

maritime-executive.com

It would seem that the U.S. is acting towards its nearest neighbours in the same manner as China has acted in the Philippines. They seem to be establishing the American Empire; not by military invasion but by isolation. Whose next?

 

[daftandbarmy]

Ouch...


Four shot dead on US-registered speedboat by border guards, Cuba says

Four people who entered Cuban waters on a US-registered speedboat have been shot dead by border guards, Cuba's government said.

In a statement, Cuba's interior ministry said that the speedboat's passengers opened fire on a coast guard vessel that approached them.

Six additional passengers were wounded in the incident, which took place near an island on Cuba's northern coast.

The identities of those on board the vessel or what it was doing in the area are unclear, with the Cuban government saying an investigation has been launched to "clarify" the event.

In statement posted on X, the ministry said the Florida-registered vessel - with the registration number FL7726SH - was detected near Cayo Falcones, in the country's central Villa Clara province on Wednesday morning.

When a Cuban boat carrying five members of the ministry's border guard approached the vessel for identification, "the crew of the violating speedboat opened fire" and wounded the Cuban commander, the statement said.

"As a consequence of the confrontation, as of the time of this report, four aggressors on the foreign vessel were killed and six injured."

Those injured were evacuated and given medical assistance.

Four shot dead on US-registered speedboat by border guard, Cuba says

Six other passengers were wounded in the incident, which took place near an island on Cuba's northern coast.

www.bbc.com

 

[brihard]

Ouch...


Four shot dead on US-registered speedboat by border guards, Cuba says

Four people who entered Cuban waters on a US-registered speedboat have been shot dead by border guards, Cuba's government said.

In a statement, Cuba's interior ministry said that the speedboat's passengers opened fire on a coast guard vessel that approached them.

Six additional passengers were wounded in the incident, which took place near an island on Cuba's northern coast.

The identities of those on board the vessel or what it was doing in the area are unclear, with the Cuban government saying an investigation has been launched to "clarify" the event.

In statement posted on X, the ministry said the Florida-registered vessel - with the registration number FL7726SH - was detected near Cayo Falcones, in the country's central Villa Clara province on Wednesday morning.

When a Cuban boat carrying five members of the ministry's border guard approached the vessel for identification, "the crew of the violating speedboat opened fire" and wounded the Cuban commander, the statement said.

"As a consequence of the confrontation, as of the time of this report, four aggressors on the foreign vessel were killed and six injured."

Those injured were evacuated and given medical assistance.

Four shot dead on US-registered speedboat by border guard, Cuba says

Six other passengers were wounded in the incident, which took place near an island on Cuba's northern coast.

www.bbc.com

If, as alleged, they opened fire on Cuban law enforcement in Cuban territorial waters and lost the resultant firefight, then it sounds like a FAFO and this is Cuba’s matter to deal with. The U.S. is free to provide consular services to any of its citizens who are subsequently in Cuban custody.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

Agreed but it’s a double edged sword here. Success will only embolden him and the sycophants around him.
Will Cuba be next? What about Greenland and/or Canada?
Success in Iran will renforce delusions of grandeur.

Why would we be upset about DJT removing a brutal communist dictatorship in Cuba? Canadians gonna miss cheap rum and shitty resorts?

 

[daftandbarmy]

Meanwhile, in Cuba…

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[brihard]

Someone remind me what, in the year 2026, is the purported justification for a continued U.S. economic sanctions regime and oil blockade on Cuba?

 

[suffolkowner]

Someone remind me what, in the year 2026, is the purported justification for a continued U.S. economic sanctions regime and oil blockade on Cuba?

communist dictatorship?

 

[McG]

Someone remind me what, in the year 2026, is the purported justification for a continued U.S. economic sanctions regime and oil blockade on Cuba?

Someone wants the glory of taking the country.

https://apnews.com/video/trump-says-he-thinks-hell-have-the-honor-of-taking-cuba-a07a717455764aa5b1a405e7ddadc151

 

[Brad Sallows]

communist dictatorship?

That right there. Not sure it matters that it's a "communist" one, but it's a dictatorship. Cuba's USSR-backed days of being a regional and cross-Atlantic shit-disturbing proxy of the Soviet Union, which to some would have been enough justification, are over. Now it's just another place where people are unnecessarily poor. They are still stuck in the "wasted years".

Undeniably, sanctions hurt the people that the sanctions are supposed to eventually help. Sanctions are just about the last stop before "do nothing; let the people suffer or fix their own government". Sanctions are a lot less destructive than invasion or regime removal by airpower.

 

[Mick]

communist dictatorship?

Meh.... so is Vietnam, and they're on the Board of Peace.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

There was a lot of things the Cuban Communists could have done to ease sanctions over the years, and for awhile they looked like they were going in the right direction, then the hardliners put their foot down and walked back those reforms, preferring to rule a dung heap, rather than slowly give up their grip on power.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Someone remind me what, in the year 2026, is the purported justification for a continued U.S. economic sanctions regime and oil blockade on Cuba?

The US is still mad that their companies lost money from assets seized when the Communists took over from the brutal dictatorship that the US favoured. Any attempt to blame the blockade on ‘dictatorships’ is just a lie, the US has no issues with dictatorships, as long as they play ball in America’s favour. Look at Iran right now, they have been mad there for almost 50 years because the brutal monarch which favoured the US was replaced.

This has nothing to do with what is morally right, the US doesn’t care about that, they only care about their pocket books and who is playing ball with them. Cuba does not and as such is punished for it.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Seen on the former bird app tonight:

Congratulations to Cuba on reaching true net zero.
BZ!

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

The US is still mad that their companies lost money from assets seized when the Communists took over from the brutal dictatorship that the US favoured. Any attempt to blame the blockade on ‘dictatorships’ is just a lie, the US has no issues with dictatorships, as long as they play ball in America’s favour. Look at Iran right now, they have been mad there for almost 50 years because the brutal monarch which favoured the US was replaced.

This has nothing to do with what is morally right, the US doesn’t care about that, they only care about their pocket books and who is playing ball with them. Cuba does not and as such is punished for it.

By seized, you mean stole, right? That is Ultimately what this is about. If there were no consequences for those actions, the US would be seen as toothless and everyone would be doing it

 

[McG]

After more than 65 years, any appearance of American “toothlessness” is not going to be influenced by Trump starting a war of conquest or otherwise subjugating a neighbour. Such a thing would only reinforce other negative visions (expansionist, colonialist, warmonger, unstable).

 

[Remius]

By seized, you mean stole, right? That is Ultimately what this is about. If there were no consequences for those actions, the US would be seen as toothless and everyone would be doing it

Consequences after 65years? Who are they showing their teeth to exactly by doing that? Who else in the world might be seizing and stealing that will take that as any sort of real message?

 

[dapaterson]

By seized, you mean stole, right? That is Ultimately what this is about. If there were no consequences for those actions, the US would be seen as toothless and everyone would be doing it

Hawaii enters the chat.

 

[Kirkhill]

Meh.... so is Vietnam, and they're on the Board of Peace.

Vietnam isn't 90 miles off of Key West.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Many of the former dictatorships of the Americas have improved over the past decades. A few have not; Cuba is one of them. Overall it has taken decades, and those which have experienced some useful change mostly did it themselves. Is whether the dictatorships were right-coded or left-coded a mitigating/militating factor, I wonder?

Try searching "[country name here] end of dictatorship". The AI-assisted results for Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela are amusing: it discusses the matter as future events.