Defending Canada from American Military aggression

[Altair]

Your choice would be stupid and would fail. It would inevitably result in whatever U.S. military action were needed to prevent it from happening. That would be easy for them. It would probably also result in an imposed “regime change”. It would essentially catalyze and accelerate all the militarily bad outcomes they people are afraid of.

Canada partners with Japan and Poland to develop nuclear capabilities.

USA attacks... Canada,Poland and Japan?

Yeah, okay.

 

[Brad Sallows]

I do love that the French knew all those many decades ago that they couldn't rely on anyone but themselves to defend their nation. The Brits for some reason think that they have a special relationship with the Americans that can never be broken.

You offer credit for a doubtful motive. The French went their own way because of their own particular ego. They were the original archetype of a questionably committed NATO member.

 

[Brad Sallows]

I will endeavour to increase my popularity by contrarily (again) wondering who would be willing to nuke the population of even one small city in order to prevent an exchange of Canadian for American governance.

It is one thing to be committed to resist. It is another to be barbaric.

 

[brihard]

Canada partners with Japan and Poland to develop nuclear capabilities.

USA attacks... Canada,Poland and Japan?

Yeah, okay.

Japan and Poland aren’t going to nuke the U.S. if Canada is threatened. The U.S. would eliminate (in any and all senses of the word) any Canadian contributions to such an endeavour, and of course prevents us from developing any capable delivery systems. Also, see above, ‘regime change’.

There is absolutely nothing either real or imaginary that could redeem this terrible idea.

 

[Altair]

Japan and Poland aren’t going to nuke the U.S. if Canada is threatened. The U.S. would eliminate (in any and all senses of the word) any Canadian contributions to such an endeavour, and of course prevents us from developing any capable delivery systems. Also, see above, ‘regime change’.

There is absolutely nothing either real or imaginary that could redeem this terrible idea.

Canada seeks to build nukes in order to defend itself from any hostile nation that seeks to attack Canadian sovereign territory.

Why is this a threat to the USA....unless...

 

[brihard]

Canada seeks to build nukes in order to defend itself from any hostile nation that seeks to attack Canadian sovereign territory.

Why is this a threat to the USA....unless...

You’re choosing to be obtuse on this.

Cannot cannot build nukes if U.S. doesn’t allow us. The current U.S. administration will absolutely not allow us. Ipso facto Canada cannot build nukes. We can cause our country great harm and loss of sovereignty by attempting to though.

 

[Altair]

You’re choosing to be obtuse on this.

Cannot cannot build nukes if U.S. doesn’t allow us. The current U.S. administration will absolutely not allow us. Ipso facto Canada cannot build nukes. We can cause our country great harm and loss of sovereignty by attempting to though.

Because the USA wants the easy convenience of invading us if they ever just wake up and feel the desire to do so?

 

[Brad Sallows]

Because the USA wants the easy convenience of invading us if they ever just wake up and feel the desire to do so?

Because there was a time when even Canada was part of the community of nations that thought non-proliferation was morally and ethically praiseworthy and to the benefit of all species of the world, irrespective of the potential risk to sovereignty.

 

[brihard]

Because the USA wants the easy convenience of invading us if they ever just wake up and feel the desire to do so?

This is not worth anymore of my time.

 

[Altair]

This is not worth anymore of my time.

Title of the thread is called defending Canada from American Military aggression.

In case you didn't realize.

 

[ArmyRick]

Because the USA wants the easy convenience of invading us if they ever just wake up and feel the desire to do so?

Reality check. If the USA wanted to invade us and beat our asses senseless in a very short war, they could do it. They would have done it.

They will launch a propaganda war on us, an economic war on us, a cultural war on us, a psychological war on us and basically have us convinced to throw in the towel. I highly doubt they need to fire a single missile at us, or launch a single fighter aircraft or even move a carrier battle group near us.

 

[Altair]

Reality check. If the USA wanted to invade us and beat our asses senseless in a very short war, they could do it. They would have done it.

They will launch a propaganda war on us, an economic war on us, a cultural war on us, a psychological war on us and basically have us convinced to throw in the towel. I highly doubt they need to fire a single missile at us, or launch a single fighter aircraft or even move a carrier battle group near us.

Its worse than that.

Even if Canada could withstand that, it wouldn't matter because the USA would make short work of the CAF. We could double or triple the amount spent on the CAF and it wouldn't matter worth a damn.

The only things preventing American aggression is the American Congress, and international backlash the Americans would suffer. That said, if the American Congress is neutered, and the American government doesn't care about international backlash, what does Canada have on its side?

There is one thing Americans won't mess with and it's the MAD doctrine.

 

[QV]

'Can't beat the weather': Canada's snowbirds still flocking to the U.S., but some are going 'quietly'

While tens of thousands of winter escapees are dropping U.S. sunbelt destinations, "hundreds of thousands" are still going south.

nationalpost.com

Someone better tell all these people still going south they are driving across enemy lines! <-- I don't believe this at all in case you missed the sarcasm.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Title of the thread is called defending Canada from American Military aggression.

Well, I made my unpopular position ("not unconditionally") very clear.

You seem to be making yours ("at any cost"). I grieve to inform you it too may not be popular.

 

[Brad Sallows]

The only things preventing American aggression is the American Congress, and international backlash the Americans would suffer. That said, if the American Congress is neutered

"Neutered". If the Senate passes its proposed resolution regarding Greenland, it's a safe bet at least the Senate won't vote to authorize a war. If the Senate won't authorize a war against Greenland, it's a safe bet it won't authorize a war against Canada.

Maybe people can stop stoking their fantasies about Trump invading Greenland or Canada and treat his remarks like the mere insulting bombast that they are. And have a side helping of "Congress is not quite ready to roll over for Trump".