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EI Surplus at 54 Billion dollars

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Overtaxation of this magnitude is bound to have negative effects on the economy. This money should be either invested with the proceeds paid into the CPP (to end the Ponzi Scheme nature of the current plan) or applied against the national debt. As the blogger points out, the nature and administration of EI also need to change.

http://unambig.blogspot.com/2007/12/toronto-star-has-it-right.html

Monday, December 3, 2007
The Toronto Star Has It Right

What's that? Did I read that correctly? The Toronto Star? The same newspaper which I ranted on here, here, and here? Well, yes, actually. The Star today has reported on an enraging topic, where the federal bureau of employment insurance stands at an obscene, tax-payer bludgeoning $54 billion dollars.

How can this be? The federal government of Canada itself does not possess a surplus of this magnitude, and yet the socialist program of Employment Insurance, which steals untold amounts of monies from our weekly pay cheques [automatically debited for "convenience"], has an astounding surplus. And what, you may ask, is the reason for it? I think the answer to that is fairly simple. Nobody can get it.

For those who live in their parents basement and don't yet pay taxes, E.I. [as it is known] is a frustrating deduction which is taken directly off your salary every time you receive a payment from your employer. It is intended [in socialist theory] to be banked for you, on your behalf [how very generous of the government to hold on to your money for you], in the event that you lose your job and require governmental assistance while you search for a new job. Never mind the fact that if you do lose your job, it takes 6-8 weeks of bureaucratic processing to get any payment, by which time you could be either employed or homeless [pick one]. Never mind the fact that the very definition of "insurance" means to "insure" against the liability of something which could cause you either grievous harm or injury financially. No, never mind those tedious facts. Because you probably won't get E.I. at all:


    Critics say the program's "draconian" eligibility rules are responsible for people slipping through the cracks into poverty while the federal government uses the money to finance tax cuts to corporations, and other things.

    "For people who are paying into that insurance, it's not working for them ... (I)n the next economic downturn that we see, many of those people will not have support from EI to cushion them," said Frances Lankin, president and chief executive officer of the United Way of Greater Toronto.

    "It is one piece of the overall strategy that is going to have to be developed if we are to bring down poverty rates," Lankin told the Star.

    The surplus generated by the employment insurance program doesn't actually exist as a separate entity. The difference between what is collected in EI premiums and what is paid out is counted as general revenue, and the bulk of it is used to fund other programs or to pay down the national debt.



In other words, we're paying an extra tax we don't need to pay. Since the government is not using the funds they say they're allocating them for, a more blunt word for it would be "theft". Employment Insurance is collecting roughly a billion dollars more per year than they can ever possibly need, and it goes directly to federal revenues which are in turn used for other programs or government expenditures.

This, despite the fact that E.I. premiums have even gone down in recent years. What really gets to people, though, is the eligibility is very high in an economy which expects a high rate of turnover. The hours required to be eligible pretty much means that part-time earners, or seasonal contractual workers can't receive back the very money they put into the fund. Think of it as a "pay now, screw you later" fund.

This means that in Ontario alone, 70% of those who end up unemployed will not qualify for benefits, meaning they can slip into the unemployment ranks or welfare. To put this in perspective, many contract workers, such as construction tradespeople or landscapers, may lose their jobs after a few months of steady work, and be completely on their own to survive. Good people, with good educations, and skills, can be utterly left in the lurch by a system which requires a qualification of hours based on arbitrary numbers, instead of actual input into the system. What I can't for the life of me understand, is how the government can deny a person of the money they have already paid into a fund. This isn't welfare. This is about real working people, being disenfranchised by their own government.

There are two simple solutions to this problem. The first is to fix the system to allow people to receive Employment Insurance as it was meant to be used: to insure against the fluctuating effects of the economy through a fund into which everyone pays. The second is to scrap the entire system, and allow the worker to keep that portion of his stolen paycheque. In either sense, the worker should be entitled the benefits of his labour. Full stop.

Posted by Raphael Alexander at 6:51 PM   

 
Wholeheartedly agree that EI is scam.  I just recently lost my job, and my employer "graciously" allowed me to "resign" instead of being terminated.  But in the EI world if you "resign" a job you are not eligeble (unless it was for Human rights violations), and for those who have wound up in my situation (ie resign or be terminated), EI assigns an investigator to look into your claims which takes a minimim 6-8 weeks, with no guarantee you will be approved.  ::)
 
While I agree EI is just a tax, I find it amusing that the author of the article/post believes seasonal workers should have an entitlement.  If EI were true insurance, seasonal workers would either be unable to obtain it, or their premiums would be sky-high (totalling more than expected benefits), or the benefits would be restricted to the period of seasonal employment if the job terminated prematurely during the season.

I notice that the people against making our progressive income taxes less so, fail to attack EI as a tax which is weighted against low-to-middle income earners.
 
Brad Sallows said:
While I agree EI is just a tax, I find it amusing that the author of the article/post believes seasonal workers should have an entitlement.  If EI were true insurance, seasonal workers would either be unable to obtain it, or their premiums would be sky-high (totalling more than expected benefits), or the benefits would be restricted to the period of seasonal employment if the job terminated prematurely during the season.

I notice that the people against making our progressive income taxes less so, fail to attack EI as a tax which is weighted against low-to-middle income earners.

Like the herring roe fishermen out west ;) Five weeks of around the clock fishing, sold to offshore factory boats for cash (the gov't doesnt know how much), then they sit in the Legion for the rest of the year on pogey, with their boat as a residence. Or so I hear ::)
 
Just another socialist shell game where they try to make you believe that they are giving you something for free when in all honesty, the average working man pays far, far more than he will ever be allowed to collect, while the sloth collect far, far more than they will ever contribute.

Ironic that the socialist programs in favor of "the working man" more often than not benefit the non-working man.
 
EI has turned into a grotesque monstrosity.  At least the government should have the honesty to admit that the money really isn't squirrelled away for a rainy day.  Beware when the insurable amounts go from 39k to 40k and then 41k, because that will claw back any GST or income tax cuts the gov't may so generously grant us.

On another note, the CPP is well funded and invested, unlike the American SS (social security) ponzi scheme.  I hate to admit it, but our CPP is so stable that the Swiss came over to study it.
 
>Like the herring roe fishermen out west...Or so I hear

I don't know if it's restricted to any particular fishery, but it's true that some fishermen take that route.  Some also work in several fisheries for which the seasons (or openings) are at different times.
 
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