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looks like everybody I know has one of these except for me, I just realized this today, but my reserve unit is already finished for the year...
so voila, one more question!
so voila, one more question!
forces.gc.ca email address?
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All Class B Reservists are given these e-mail accounts. On top of that, forces.gc.ca accounts are generally only given to those of the rank of Cpl and above, provided (like 241 said) you need one for business purposes.
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For the most part, if one has a DWAN login, then one probably has a SMTP address. There are some exceptions, like student accounts at the schools, which are internal mail accounts only. If one does have a DWAN account, the easiest way to tell if you have an externally accessible SMTP address is to look up your own entry in the Global Address Book, view the properties for it, and look on the "Addresses" tab. If you have a forces.gc.ca address, it'll be listed there.
I can't speak for the reserves, but getting a DWAN login and associated e-mail account is part of an in-routine at Air Force bases (regardless of rank), and I'd guess that it's now the same across the Army and Navy as well.
I can't speak for the reserves, but getting a DWAN login and associated e-mail account is part of an in-routine at Air Force bases (regardless of rank), and I'd guess that it's now the same across the Army and Navy as well.
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infamous_p said:
All mnbrs of the CF are to have a DWAN/DIN account, they are required to access such things as QR&O's (now only published electronically) to restrict the distribution of accounts violates the access to Regulations and orders article in QR&O's. I just came from a network control job and this fact was made very clear. Regardless if you are c class A reservist or a reg force type in operations. but please if you have a reference saying GNR's and Pte's are not allowed to have accounts please point it out
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Can you imagine P2 if your people (od's/ab's) were not permitted accounts, how would anyone get paid... I'd say more but again politeness prevents me, But I think we're on the same train of thought here
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does it really matter if res pte get din access i know i didn't need it?
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you may not need it, until you're on a career course and have to type up a lesson plan, not usually a Pte thing to do, and maybe trade dependant its not required, but the reg sayith... There its lots of valuable information avail on the din, everythibg from bde warning orders to important things like CFAO, DOAD, CBI, QRO, Course outlines, Documentum and the like tha may just be valuable to a res infantryman on his way to CTC or WATC of CMTC for course. Don't discount the validaty just because you didn't get one doesn't mean you shouldn't have had one
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I wasn't saying that since i didn't get/need one no ptes should have one, Yes it is different for different units and trades, but for me as a pte coming out and Thursdays and weekends and having a section commander and 2ic that i could get info from, and where our unit didn't have a big computer lab for everyone to use. As a pte as well i was still getting used to being in the army and to the routine, and making comrades i really didn't have time to search on the DIN. Doesn't the Ops WO give info for crse and such?
Just to clarify - the original poster was asking about a forces.gc.ca e-mail account. There's an important distinction to be made here:
One can have DWAN access with mail, and not necessarily have a forces.gc.ca mail address. I don't think this is a case of "Ptes shouldn't have login access to the DWAN", as they clearly should as others have pointed out. Whether they actually need an external mail account is a completely separate matter.
One can have DWAN access with mail, and not necessarily have a forces.gc.ca mail address. I don't think this is a case of "Ptes shouldn't have login access to the DWAN", as they clearly should as others have pointed out. Whether they actually need an external mail account is a completely separate matter.
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its ADM/IM policy that all personal dwan accounts will have a mailbox attached unless that priviledge has been revoked pursuant to a court order or abuse of DAOD 1000-1, so baring any misconduct on behalf of the individual in question, there is no such thins as one without the other.
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You're not seeing the distinction here. You can have a DWAN account with mail, and still not have a SMTP address (the user@forces.gc.ca address). Some accounts are strictly internal, so the original poster may not have one because they're not supposed to have one.
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those strictly internal accounts are for certain defence contrators and positional accounts only. The only reason the poster would have a personal dwan account and not have a forces.gc.ca mail address would be due to misconduct. So I guess to make the distinction clear for all, mail enabled user accounts have an external mail address user@forces.gc.ca, mail enabled positional accounts have internal mail addresses only user@intern.mil.ca and the associated account is disabled leaving the mailbox active and the account inactive, security permissions are then set so that individual users can access the mailbox only. so for the poster if you do not yet have a mailenabled dwan account see your class B IT Coord, or as is more likely the RFTA, its a simple process and in most places the ITC can create the account at the unit level.
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There is zero requirement for a PRes Private to have a DWAN/DIN account.
Unless said member was employed on a Class-B contract, there would not be time for this pers to log in and check emails.
I can guarantee you that only 10-20% of a Reservist regiment has access to the DWAN - as there are very limited IT resources.
Unless said member was employed on a Class-B contract, there would not be time for this pers to log in and check emails.
I can guarantee you that only 10-20% of a Reservist regiment has access to the DWAN - as there are very limited IT resources.
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I'll tell you from experience my friend, every reservist at the regiment I'm doing my ewat at has one, I made sure of that, coming from the network control side of the house before going Arty. just because they may not have a percieved requirement does not mean that the entitlement changes.
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Hard copies can still be downloaded by supervisors who do have access and retained in a central location for use by personnel who require them (usually the Trg Office, CSMs, or Unit Orderly Room). This is done by many Regular Force Units whose personnel do not have access. Therefore they are still in compliance with directives to ensure access to these items. ArtyNewbie, your argument that lack of electronic access means they are not availed of these is incorrect. We are even able to send hard copies of CANFORGENs and Routine Orders etc around with circ slips attached to them for each member to sign as having "read" which are then retained on file should someone choose to have claimed they never saw it just like we did ~gasp~ in the old days. Believe it or not...the world (and the CF) can possibly rotate without us all having PCs & laptops. A printed hard copy available within the Unit means they are getting the access to these items that they are entitled to, no-one said it has to be electronic access.
There are a vast number of RegF personnel with no electronic access, but who are availed of downloaded hard copies. Just run a system e-mail search by Unit and use a 1st Line Infantry Unit such as 2RCR....note the distinct lack of listings with the rank of Pte or Cpl showing after their names....
There are a vast number of RegF personnel with no electronic access, but who are availed of downloaded hard copies. Just run a system e-mail search by Unit and use a 1st Line Infantry Unit such as 2RCR....note the distinct lack of listings with the rank of Pte or Cpl showing after their names....
