Hamas invaded Israel 2023

[daftandbarmy]

Right. Bloody well right.

Meanwhile, at Columbia University....

 

[Jarnhamar]

For the most part Israel and Palestine want to wipe each other out.

Israel is able to resist acting on their emotions, Palestine isn't.

To make matters worse other countries don't want to deal with Palestinians en masse because of their past (and present) behavior.

If Palestinians don't figure out how to change their culture and mentality they're going to cease to exist.

 

[ModlrMike]

Yes, there is a reason the borders to Egypt and Jordan have remained closed.

Black September

 

[The Bread Guy]

Stripping prisoners and forcing them to march in front of your tanks?

Worked well enough in “The Devil’s Guard,” no?

 

[The Bread Guy]

For the most part Israel and Palestine want to wipe each other out.

I’m a bit more optimistic (naive?) thinking that the hardest core of both sides want the other side erased. I’m guessing most just don’t want to be fucked over by the others.

If Palestinians don't figure out how to change their culture and mentality they're going to cease to exist.

Good overall principle, but like the mafia or gangs, as long as someone gets better service from them than they do from the authorities who are supposed to, the bad guys’ll thrive. Hearts & minds ain’t easy - or quick.

 

[CountDC]

Hospitals? Stripping prisoners and forcing them to march in front of your tanks? Political leaders calling for the expulsion of the population ?

Hospitals - used by HAMAS as shelters, arms stores, prisoner holding, attach launches, etc. No longer a hospital, became a military target.

None of it indicates a genocide. Sure lot's of bad happens in a war and it has without doubt on both sides but it still isn't genocide.

As for Political leaders calling for expulsion I think that is better than the other side which is calling for death to everyone which actually would be a genocide. Isn't it amazing that the side calling for genocide is also the one claiming genocide while increasing population and getting world support?

 

[QV]

Good overall principle, but like the mafia or gangs, as long as someone gets better service from them than they do from the authorities who are supposed to, the bad guys’ll thrive. Hearts & minds ain’t easy - or quick.

Yeah? How are their services doing under Hamas right now?

 

[The Bread Guy]

Yeah? How are their services doing under Hamas right now?

Not so good, but there may have been parts of their services that were better via Hamas before the attack on ISR and subsequent response.

Sorta like Hezbollah - yeah, we fight, but we sometimes get shit done when government doesn't/can't/chooses not to.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Hamas Water works department: "Hey those pipes we put into the ground, using foreign funds, would make great rockets!" "Bonus we can blame the cuts in the water service on Israel"

 

[CBH99]

Just look with Google maps and you see a fair bit of empty space that was used for agriculture.

Ya know what's scary? It didn't even cross my mind to do that...

 

[daftandbarmy]

Ya know what's scary? It didn't even cross my mind to do that...

You're in good company

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Ya know what's scary? It didn't even cross my mind to do that...

That's ok it took quite some time for the UN, major media and many governments to realize the "14,000 babies dying in 48hrs" claim was bogus. But the disinformation certainly worked.

 

[OldSolduer]

Meanwhile, at Columbia University....


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This is how dictatorship works:

Co-opt the intelligentsia and execute them when they become your adversaries

 

[The Bread Guy]

Some (Israeli, but not really Israeli?) aid plan is out there, where PMC's'll protect the aid deliverers (sounds like organized around former mil folks), not IDF, organized outside the framework of the U.N.

A US-backed group seeks to take over Gaza aid distribution in a plan similar to Israel's

A group of American security contractors, ex-military officers and humanitarian aid officials is proposing to take over the distribution of food and other supplies in Gaza based on plans similar to ones designed by Israel.

apnews.com

(...)

A slight glitch ....

Head of controversial Israel-backed Gaza aid group resigns

The UN has said the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation's plan would make "starvation a bargaining chip".

www.bbc.com

More in link (also archived here https://archive.is/r3Eco).

 

[Eaglelord17]

Far-right marchers attack Palestinians as Israel marks taking of Jerusalem

Israeli opposition leaders condemned attacks on Palestinians as "racist" and a disgrace to Judaism.

www.bbc.com

The other extremists in action.

 

[Halifax Tar]

No kidding

https://twitter.com/x/status/1927338010892259359