Highest Ranking Female

[AJFitzpatrick]

How far back should this go?

Queen Victoria?

 

[the 48th regulator]

Queen Victoria?

She is not our first Female Queen, BTW.

dileas

tess

 

[dangerboy]

She is not our first Female Queen, BTW.

dileas

tess

It depends on how technical you want to get Queen Victoria was crowed in 1837 and Canada was formed in 1867 so as the Country of Canada she was our first Queen.  Of course this has nothing to do with this thread, so I will end the hijack.

 

[gwp]

She is not our first Female Queen, BTW. dileas
tess

My we do get caught up in the minutia. 

It is claimed that Alexander Dunn was the first "Canadian" to be awarded the Victoria Cross 1854

The there are those "Canadians" that fought at Chateauguay, Detroit, and Chrystlers Farm in 1813 as well as those who fought in the Fenian Raid 1866 and earned the Colonial or Canadian General Service Medal. Little is known about any women amongst the ranks.

The discussion even re-visits the matter of whether the military is vested in the Governor General or the Governor General is in the military?

After Confederation in 1867, Governors General were authorized to oversee internal matters, but had to acknowledge and respect British policy concerning external affairs. The British North America Act declared that the Command-in-Chief of the Land and Naval Militia would continue to be vested in the Queen.

A Governor General as Head of State, a Canadian Militia
The Militia was established by the Militia Act of 1868. In the 1870s, a small militia was based in Halifax under the command of a general officer on loan from the British Army.

In 1904, however, a new Militia Act stated that "the Command-in-Chief of the Militia is declared to continue and be vested in the King, and shall be administered by His Majesty or by the Governor General as his representative." This Act also doubled the permanent force to 4000, to provide a garrison to replace the British in Halifax.
This was an important landmark, as it was the beginning of a truly Canadian force, and it reinforced the role of the Governor General as Commander-in-Chief. In 1905, the change to the Militia Act was legalized and reference to the Office of the Governor General became the Office of the Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of the Militia.

The Militia legislation was passed in the House of Commons August 3, 1904 and came into effect on November 1, 1904.

In 1905 the "Letters Patent constituting the Office of the Governor General" were amended to read the Letters Patent constituting the Office of the Governor General and Commander-in-Chief.
In 1910, with the establishment of the Canadian Department of the Naval Service, the Governor General became the Commander-in-Chief of the Militia and Naval Forces.
After the creation of the Canadian Air Force in 1919, the Governor General became Commander-in-Chief of the Militia and Naval and Air Forces.
In 1947, the Letters Patent of King George VI transferred all the duties of Head of State of Canada to the Governor General and the new Commission of Appointment referred to the Office of Governor General and Commander-in-Chief in and over Canada.
In 1968, following the unification of the three services, the Governor General became Commander-in-Chief of the Canadian Armed Forces.

Then again there were no Canadian citizens until 1949.

 

[armyvern]

The discussion even re-visits the matter of whether the military is vested in the Governor General or the Governer General is in the military?

Funny that. I read it and interpret it as emphasizing the Governor General's "being vested to the King", and "it reinforced the role of the Governor General as Commander-in-Chief." That the Governor General shall "administer" us. And, that with each sucessive legislative change to our military establishment, the Governor General has continued to be vested as the Crown's representative acting in the role as Commander in Chief. 

Certainly not that she shall join us, or that she already (or ever) has. It certainly seems to me to be clear in that "administrative" intention.

Here it is for you from the official site:

The Governor General of Canada is also Commander-in-Chief of Canada. As such, the Governor General plays a significant role in encouraging excellence and recognizing the important role of Canada’s military at home and abroad.

Among these responsibilities, the Governor General:

Appoints the Chief of the Defence Staff on the recommendation of the Prime Minister;
Acts on recommendations from the Minister of National Defence regarding the appointment of Royal Colonels-in-Chief of Canadian Regiments;
Approves new military badges and insignia;
Visits Canadian Forces personnel, at home and abroad;
Presents new colours to the Canadian Forces;
Awards military Honours, such as the Order of Military Merit; Meritorious Service and Military Valour Decorations; Peacekeeping and Special Service Medals;
Signs Commission Scrolls, etc.
Upon appointment, the Commander-in-Chief receives the Canadian Forces decoration and becomes:

an Honorary Colonel of the Governor General’s Foot Guards, the Governor General’s Horse Guards and the Canadian Grenadier Guards;
the Chancellor and a Commander of the Order of Military Merit.

I'm thinking --- if she were already considered to be "in" the military, what's with the "Honorary Colonel" title??

 

[armyvern]

Mary Collins narrows it down to 1989 ... she was appointed just prior to our departure to Namibia; actually saw us off in her "official" capacity (there was a pic of her and I in the paper ... outside ... while I was having a smoke).

Got a citation for that biography you posted?? They like to link those things around here.

Just bumping this for the benefit of gwp. Please post your citations/references for items that are attributable to someone else's work (you've neglected it again in your last post in this thread) - lest Mr Bobbitt find himself facing any copyright/plagarism issues.

I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

 

[the 48th regulator]

My we do get caught up in the minutea. 

Just bumping this for the benefit of gwp. Please post your citations/references for items that are attributable to someone else's work (you've neglected it again in your last post in this thread) - lest Mr Bobbitt find himself facing any copyright/plagarism issues.

I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Yes gwp, we do.

Glas you noticed that, it's what makes this site strong.

BTW, it is minutiae.  You forgot the I.

dileas

tess

 

[armyvern]

Yes gwp, we do.

Glas you noticed that, it's what makes this site strong.

BTW, it is minutiae.  You forgot the I.

dileas

tess

And also had the "ae" reversed.

Another example of why we need +10 for clicking "spell check" on MPs.

 

[Kat Stevens]

She is not our first Female Queen, BTW.

dileas

tess

Interesting historical note, ALL of our and England's, Scotland's, Wales', and Northern Ireland's ruling Queens have been females.  In fact, to expand on this fascinating anomaly, all ruling Queens of any nation, empire, ant hill or bee hive, have been female, and will continue to be so for the forseeable future.

 

[armyvern]

Interesting historical note, ALL of our and England's, Scotland's, Wales', and Northern Ireland's ruling Queens have been females.  In fact, to expand on this fascinating anomaly, all ruling Queens of any nation, empire, ant hill or bee hive, have been female, and will continue to be so for the forseeable future.

:rofl:

>

Perhaps one day, we'll get to the transgendered stage ... could be interesting.

 

[kratz]

Somewhere between correct spelling, transgender Queens, and bee hives the thread has lost the answer to the OP's question. It's been a fun read though.  ;D

 

[AJFitzpatrick]

Is Queen a rank or an appointment ?

 

[George Wallace]

Is Queen a rank or an appointment ?

Neither.  Hereditary.

 

[armyvern]

Neither.  Hereditary.

Only in so much as you're not "The Queen" simply because you married "The King"; in those cases it's called "you go girl!"  >

 

[armyvern]

Is Queen a rank or an appointment ?

Depends upon the country in question. There are many forms of Monarchy. In Jordan, the current Monarch "appoints" their sucessor to be - not necessarily a relative. And, in England - the eldest male child takes over the throne regardless of whether he has an elder sister - only when there is no "man-child" will the eldest daughter become a "Queen" should she outlive her reigning parent.

 

[Blackadder1916]

Is Queen a rank or an appointment ?

It is more appropriately an office of government, that which holds the executive power (and command-in-chief of the armed forces).  The actual designation "Queen" is the "style and title" given to the head of state of Canada (et al) as per the Royal Style and Titles Act.  Of a unique military rank or appointment, the Queen (but more specifically the Governor General) could be styled "Commander-in-Chief".

A-AD-265-000/AG-001
CHAPTER 3 SECTION 2 RANK INSIGNIA AND APPOINTMENT BADGES

THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF
1. The Governor General of Canada holds the appointment of Commander-in-Chief of the CF. In this capacity, the Governor General wears:

a. a flag/general officer uniform of any of the three environments, as appropriate or desirable;

b. a flag/general officer hat badge; and

c. the following appointment insignia (see Figure 3-2-1):

(1) special flag/general officer sleeve braid, embellished with the Governor General’s badge (the crest of the Arms of Canada); and

(2) a large, embroidered Governor General’s badge on the shoulder straps or boards, the badges to face forward (see, for comparison, the smaller metal badge used by the Governor General’s Aides-de-Camp, Section 7, paragraph 15.).

Jeanne Sauvé (pause to spit) was probably the last (and only) GG who routinely wore such uniform to military events.

 

[dapaterson]

Neither.  Hereditary.

Actually, the title of queen consort is not a hereditary position, but rather received on marriage to or on the accession to the throne of the king.  Queen's spouses do not become King, though - a blatant bit of discrimination.  I smell a charter challenge!

 

[armyvern]

Queen's spouses do not become King, though - a blatant bit of discrimination.  I smell a charter challenge!

We womenfolk just want to ensure that 9erD does indeed understand that he is STILL 9erD.     >

 

[Kat Stevens]

A King outranks a Queen in the great order of things.  The hereditary ruler can not be outranked by their spouse.

 

[Command-Sense-Act 105]

Jeanne Sauvé (pause to spit)

Oy, Blackadder, I don't think that's on, old man!  

You may not like her, but to me your comment shows quite a bit of disrespect for and some disloyalty to that office.  Not everyone could be Georges Vanier, but on a public site like this I don't think a comment like that from one of our senior members is what we want to demonstrate.