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If anytihng he did the opposite of #2 by contacting NIS
yeah - but wouldn't that be like closing the barn door AFTER the horses have bolted?ArtyNewbie said:If anytihng he did the opposite of #2 by contacting NIS
geo said:Lt Cdr White was recently promoted... out of his position as CO of the Saskatoon.
Time will tell if he is ever given command of another ship.
While the Navy has not found him guilty, that does not mean they have found him to be a good and effective CO.
Time will tell, time will tell. ???
Indeed, but better than turning a blind eye, the key thing to remember is the ships coxn, the link between the NCM's and Command was as deep as the rest of them. Also just because one killick on his way out the door says 1/3 of the ships coy were actively using coke doesn't actually mean they were. There was an indepth investigation and only 4 charges were laid and made it to trial. The result of investigation just doesn't back up the young man's claim.geo said:yeah - but wouldn't that be like closing the barn door AFTER the horses have bolted?
where was the situational awareness of the Ship's company's leaders?
despite the drugs, this couldn't have been a happy ship (pun intended)
these are people who have given up any and all aspects of their professionalism and have become - rank amateurs
airmich said:Cdr White is currently the CO of HMCS Oriole.
Ex-Dragoon said:You would be surprised what can be kept from a CO if the wardroom or senior ncms do not want to bring it to the COs attention. Does the CO of each regiment know if Pte Bloggins is boinking so and so or Mcpl Ahole beats his wife? Sail sometime before you condemn....
Well said Seadog.
In June 2004, he was appointed Commanding Officer of HMCS Edmonton. In December of that year, he assumed command of HMCS Saskatoon when the ship’s company of HMCS Edmonton transferred to HMCS Saskatoon.
He assumed command of HMCS Oriole in June 2006
Infidel-6 said:I'm sorry - If this is indeed 1/3 of the crew, then the commander was derelict in his duties, and that is the price of command.
2 years.
pbi said:Never mind the drug use "ashore" or wherever it was. The CPO who was brought in to clean things up stated very clearly that the ship, as a military unit, was in very bad shape.
Now, I've been around the block at least once and I know damned well that if the troops or the NCOs don't want the "sir" to know something, chances are that he won't know. I also understand that Reservists, once off duty and off base, are under virtually no control by the Code of Service Discipline. I get all that.
But the functional state of a military unit, whether it be a ship, a flying sqn or an infantry battalion, can't be hidden. It's evident, and it very clearly and indisputably IS the responsibility of the CO. So, how do we reconcile that with this fellow's promotion?
Cheers
The "core" crew positions are Cl C, the equiv of what the reg force crew on the pig boats was, the remainder are Cl B (this may have changed but thats the way it was a few years back)Mud Recce Man said:Unless they are on Class B or C Service, in which case the CSD applies as it does to the Reg Force...24/7. AFAIK, most of the positions on the MCDVs are or were Class C.
ArtyNewbie said:The "core" crew positions are Cl C, the equiv of what the reg force crew on the pig boats was, the remainder are Cl B (this may have changed but thats the way it was a few years back)
Infidel-6 said:I'm sorry - If this is indeed 1/3 of the crew, then the commander was derelict in his duties, and that is the price of command.
2 years.