Infantry Vehicles

[Kirkhill]

Realistically Canadian IAMD is NORAD.
BMD is the largest part.


Everything designed for Expeditionary can be used Domestically.
The opposite isn’t necessarily true.

It is one reason why I am a fan of designing for Expeditionary Operations.

Some things that have value on expeditionary ops have little to no value against the threats likely to be encountered in domestic ops.
Buying those things deprives domestic ops of useful resources.

I have no problem with buying systems that have utility on both domestic and expeditionary ops. That is why I am a big fan of well equipped and trained light forces and artillery.

Heavy forces are well down my "must have" list. In the Canadian context I consider them discretionary or specialist equipment to be purchased in limited quantities for occasional use.

 

[FJAG]

Some things that have value on expeditionary ops have little to no value against the threats likely to be encountered in domestic ops.
Buying those things deprives domestic ops of useful resources.

I'd like to have 31 and 32 CBGs equipped as heavy brigades in time for the second battle of Stoney Creek.

 

[KevinB]

Some things that have value on expeditionary ops have little to no value against the threats likely to be encountered in domestic ops.

It all depends on if you believe that orientation of the expeditionary force should only a specific theatre.

Buying those things deprives domestic ops of useful resources.

I’d say that the soldier, sailor, aircrew person is the most valuable resource.

I have no problem with buying systems that have utility on both domestic and expeditionary ops. That is why I am a big fan of well equipped and trained light forces and artillery.

I’d suggest that Artillery has pretty zero use domestically. If you need Artillery domestically you probably need Heavy Armor.

I’m a huge fan of light forces, but if you are laying out a force structure, you probably only want dedicated light forces as 10-15% of your force.
1 Division in 7-10.

Heavy forces are well down my "must have" list. In the Canadian context I consider them discretionary or specialist equipment to be purchased in limited quantities for occasional use.

Nearly all my PRes would be Heavy
Because if you need them — odds are stuff got real.
Plus domestically they can do a lot more in greater types of Canadian territory.

For Light forces, you basically have the Rockies, or hiding in subterranean Montreal.




Again I believe in a ARNG type model for the CA PRes.

 

[Kirkhill]

It all depends on if you believe that orientation of the expeditionary force should only a specific theatre.


I’d say that the soldier, sailor, aircrew person is the most valuable resource.


I’d suggest that Artillery has pretty zero use domestically. If you need Artillery domestically you probably need Heavy Armor.

I’m a huge fan of light forces, but if you are laying out a force structure, you probably only want dedicated light forces as 10-15% of your force.
1 Division in 7-10.



Nearly all my PRes would be Heavy
Because if you need them — odds are stuff got real.
Plus domestically they can do a lot more in greater types of Canadian territory.

For Light forces, you basically have the Rockies, or hiding in subterranean Montreal.




Again I believe in a ARNG type model for the CA PRes.

If we need an air force and a navy we need modern artillery.

We are not talking about 11 km C1s anymore.

We are talking about 1000 km LRASMs and THAADs.

Artillery.

And I would add 5600 km UAV/CCA.

Artillery.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Again I believe in a ARNG type model for the CA PRes.

I recently met a nurse in the ARNG from Iowa, now retired. She deployed during GW1, and did a bunch of other deployments during her 'Active' time.

I desperately tried to explain to her how the Canadian Reserve system works.

It was clear to me that she was being polite but felt that, in comparison to the US model, it was a smoke and mirrors operation depending largely on alot of good will and luck.