Iran Super Thread- Merged

[Remius]

Given that “Iran doesn’t follow the rules” was one of the predicates for this entire war, and given how utterly predictable closures of the straits been, the abject failure to adequately plan for and safeguard against this is inexcusable. There’s no way the U.S. military didn’t anticipate and plan for this eventuality, so there was a profound decision making failure somewhere in the senior executive.

I do admire the tenacity of some people trying to spin all this as a positive…

 

[daftandbarmy]

Do we think that Canada would have more pipelines now if the CPC had won the election last April?

Canada would probably have more pipelines if the Eby government wasn't in power in BC.

 

[HavokFour]

We might be in for some spicy leaks.

Hackers tied to Iran breach FBI director’s personal email and post private images

Iranian-linked hackers breached FBI Director Kash Patel’s personal email, posting images and documents in an apparent cyberattack.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[ytz]

I do admire the tenacity of some people trying to spin all this as a positive…

It was the same thing when Iraq started going to shit. By 2026, you couldn't find anybody who supported the war or any Americans who helped re-elect Bush.

The only thing interesting here is that people can't hide their past today with social media. Maybe that makes it harder for people to change their minds. There sure are people doubling down despite very credible and knowledgeable ex Republicans (like Jim Mattis for example) calling this a blunder.

 

[ytz]

We might be in for some spicy leaks.

Hackers tied to Iran breach FBI director’s personal email and post private images

Iranian-linked hackers breached FBI Director Kash Patel’s personal email, posting images and documents in an apparent cyberattack.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Do you really want to see his sexts?

 

[Czech_pivo]

Enjoy!
Spot on assessment.

 

[ytz]

Wild that Iran can - while getting absolutely pounded - mostly effectively close an international strait and deny innocent passage through same, and force shipping (that it so allows) on a toll basis through its internal waters. And that this can be seen as anything but a major strategic blunder.

The rest of the developed world may indeed have to part of cleaning up this mess, but only because those who made it can’t or won’t.

I struggle with what the rest of us can do.

The USN can't establish positive control of the strait. What exactly would the rest of us be able to do that they can't?

Pretty clear the argument that the rest of us should get involved is so he can others to share the loss with.

The only way out is for some negotiation that includes the Gulf States. And unfortunately having established dominance, Iran is doing to get good terms sooner or later.

If we want Iran to outright lose? Who wants to sign up to deploy back to the sandbox again?