Iran Super Thread- Merged

[HavokFour]

More signs this might be a long one.

Pentagon looks for vendors to supply pre-made bunkers within 30 days

The Defense Department is trying to find vendors who can supply transportable bunkers that protect troops against blasts and shrapnel.

taskandpurpose.com

850 Tomahawks used, so far. ~600 produced annually.

And a mixture of 1000 air defense interceptors.

U.S. uses hundreds of Tomahawk missiles on Iran, alarming some at Pentagon​

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MacKenzie Eaglen, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, said that before Operation Epic Fury began late last month, the Navy probably had between 4,000 and 4,500 Tomahawk missiles on hand. Others naval analysts have said the number could be much lower, perhaps closer to 3,000, following their extensive use in recent operations, including the Trump administration’s strikes last year in Iran, Yemen and Nigeria.

The Financial Times started sounding the alarm in an article a week ago.

US has burned through ‘years’ of munitions since start of Iran war

Rapid depletion of stockpile including Tomahawk missiles raises pressure on Trump over cost of conflict

www.ft.com

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[brihard]

Royal United Services Institute has published an excellent analysis on the munitions use thus far, and the implications both for the current conflict, and for other fights the U.S. or allies may have to either deter or enter into. Very insightful read into some of the procurement and supply chain challenges.

BLUF: some key munitions may run out very, very soon. Replenishing weeks of consumption could take years, and this already has a ‘right now’ impact on other lines of effort like helping Ukraine and deterring China.

Over 11,000 munitions in 16 Days of the Iran War: ‘Command of the Reload’ Governs Endurance

Significant numbers of advanced munitions have been expended, revealing that battlefield dominance matters less than the industrial capacity to replenish critical stockpiles.

www.rusi.org

 

[daftandbarmy]

A bit long.... interesting though:

 

[Baz]

More signs this might be a long one.

Pentagon looks for vendors to supply pre-made bunkers within 30 days

The Defense Department is trying to find vendors who can supply transportable bunkers that protect troops against blasts and shrapnel.

taskandpurpose.com

850 Tomahawks used, so far. ~600 produced annually.

And a mixture of 1000 air defense interceptors.

U.S. uses hundreds of Tomahawk missiles on Iran, alarming some at Pentagon​

Archive


The Financial Times started sounding the alarm in an article a week ago.

US has burned through ‘years’ of munitions since start of Iran war

Rapid depletion of stockpile including Tomahawk missiles raises pressure on Trump over cost of conflict

www.ft.com

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How’s it go? “Amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics.” Isn’t the rumour that Trump lives to see videos of shit blowing up?

 

[Czech_pivo]

A bit long.... interesting though:

The guy doing the interview is a former US Navy Seal and the guy he’s interviewing is a former US Ranger (as well as the first Trump Cabinet member to resign).
I think they’ve got a pretty good understanding of tactics, strategy and objectives.

 

[The Bread Guy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2037397211126862074

Related? Not even sure if this is confirmed. But if so, then hybrid warfare is really taking a leap forward.

Swarming confirmed, anyway …

Mysterious drones swarmed US Air Force base home to nuclear bombers

More than a dozen unsanctioned drones repeatedly swarmed a US Air Force base that is home to a nuclear bomber fleet — and were able to resist efforts to bring them down via jamming technology…

nypost.com

Air base drone incursion: What to know about incident over B-52 bombers

There were multiple unauthorized drones detected flying over Barksdale Air Force Base, earlier this month.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

'Multiple waves' of unauthorized drones recently spotted over strategic US Air Force base

A drone sighting that temporarily raised alarms at one of the United States Air Force’s largest airfields this month was potentially more dangerous than first reported.

abcnews.com

 

[OldSolduer]

At the risk of dredging shit up this whole Iran escapade reminds me of an old tale - Brer Rabbit and Brer Fox - Brer Fox being the one who gets stuck.....and Brer Rabbit chuckling.....

 

[Cloud Cover]

Among things we don't take seriously enough either. I distinctly remember a conversation a few years ago with a friend on FFCP. He was having a hard time convincing ADM(IE) that there should be shelters for every aircraft at every MOB and FOB. "We park aircraft outside now. Why can't we keep doing that?"

I really worry about the damage some determined party could do at Trenton, Halifax, Edmonton, Ottawa, etc.

Reports now claiming that AWACS were also struck in the same attack …

Edit: and possibly x2 EC130H Compass Call.

 

[YZT580]

Reports now claiming that AWACS were also struck in the same attack …

The ramp in Saudi sort of reminded me of photos I have seen of Hickam in December 1941. Same open parking concept.

 

[brihard]

Reports now claiming that AWACS were also struck in the same attack …

Edit: and possibly x2 EC130H Compass Call.

That would be an expensive hit if true.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Mini-Me kicks off...

Yemen's Iran-backed Houthis launch missile at Israel for first time since war began​

Yemen's Iran-backed Houthis launch missile at Israel for first time since war began - follow live

As the war enters its second month, Donald Trump's special envoy says the US is hopeful of meetings with Iran "this week".

www.bbc.com

 

[GR66]

Mini-Me kicks off...

Yemen's Iran-backed Houthis launch missile at Israel for first time since war began​

Yemen's Iran-backed Houthis launch missile at Israel for first time since war began - follow live

As the war enters its second month, Donald Trump's special envoy says the US is hopeful of meetings with Iran "this week".

www.bbc.com

Frankly I don't see this as having a major impact on this conflict. Israel is well prepared both militarily and societally for attacks. Some drone and missile hits won't significantly threaten Israel militarily or politically.

If Yemen really wanted to have a significant impact on the war they would concentrate their efforts on shipping using the Red Sea to bypass the Strait of Hormuz, the Saudi Red Sea oil terminal at Yanbu at the end of the East-West pipeline that moves oil from the Gulf oil fields to the Red Sea (bypassing the Strait of Hormuz) and the Saudi oil refineries. The pipeline itself might be a viable target as well.

These targets are probably not as well defended as Israel with its small geographic area and proven multi-level AD system and are significantly closer as well which would provide less time for defenders to react.

I think that Iran has correctly identified oil (and other) commodity prices as the pain point for the Trump administration and if they (and the Houthis) can press this button hard enough the US will either have to escalate by putting troops on the ground or pulling back. Both of which would be political losses for the US.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Staff note:

And so you should. It was churlish and unnecessary. I get grumpy when I spend the day flying, but that is no excuse

Amplifying this as an example of humility & civility in a time when both often seem in short supply on social media of all kinds. Thanks to everyone helping maintain this standard & well done!

Army.ca Staff

 

[KevinB]

How’s it go? “Amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics.” Isn’t the rumour that Trump lives to see videos of shit blowing up?

DoD went to industry several weeks ago (at least) with programs to exponentially increase Tomahawk, PrSM and several other systems including ADA and AMD.

At least some in the system have an understanding of the issues.

 

[brihard]

DoD went to industry several weeks ago (at least) with programs to exponentially increase Tomahawk, PrSM and several other systems including ADA and AMD.

At least some in the system have an understanding of the issues.

Right, but is industry moving without cheques being cut? The RUSI article I posted last night speaks to this- all the intent in the world is fine, but money is what talks to industry.

 

[KevinB]

Right, but is industry moving without cheques being cut? The RUSI article I posted last night speaks to this- all the intent in the world is fine, but money is what talks to industry.

There is a lot of money being moved.
Biggest issue is while some lines can do x3 production with existing infrastructure - it will require more trained personnel, and anything beyond x3, (and with some stuff it’s like x20 and beyond), you need entirely new facilities let alone a new production line - as well as increased subcontractor component capacity boosts.

Not small number of $ at all, and the question I have is what is going to give.

 

[GR66]

Right, but is industry moving without cheques being cut? The RUSI article I posted last night speaks to this- all the intent in the world is fine, but money is what talks to industry.

Perfect opportunity for Canada to reach out to industry in order to set up domestic production of key munitions. Becoming an "arsenal of democracy" is probably one of the biggest contributions we could make to our allies.

 

[brihard]

Perfect opportunity for Canada to reach out to industry in order to set up domestic production of key munitions. Becoming an "arsenal of democracy" is probably one of the biggest contributions we could make to our allies.

No kidding. Or if nothing else, be able to assured our own munitions supply. Because nobody will be racing to put us early in the line when their own stocks are low.

 

[Czech_pivo]

No kidding. Or if nothing else, be able to assured our own munitions supply. Because nobody will be racing to put us early in the line when their own stocks are low.

Guys, I love the idea and the line of thought - but in all honesty, with Trump bashing us continuously about needing nothing from us and doing all that he can to gut our car industry and move it all back to the US, why do you believe that he would want us taking over any sort of military industry contributions to the US? It runs counter to all that he's been doing for the last 18 months.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Welcome, troops, to CENTCOM!

https://twitter.com/x/status/2037906827778682900