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Iraq Unravels

tomahawk6 said:
The death of the Quds Force commander inside Iraq is proof enough. Whether a drone or apache required intelligence. Good response to the embassy attack. Now maybe security will return to the Green zone. ;)

You're not joking are you? How will this improve security?

:coffee:
 
PPCLI Guy said:
The open source reports speak of 3 x Katyusha rockets.  As you know doubt know, perhaps from being at the other end of one, they are not at all accurate or precision weapons.

Reports seem to indicate two separate attacks; First the three Katyusha rockets that hit earlier and caused no casualties and then the "airstrike" that killed General Qassem Soleimani.

As always in situations like this confusion reigns.
 
tomahawk6 said:
The death of the Quds Force commander inside Iraq is proof enough. Whether a drone or apache required intelligence. Good response to the embassy attack. Now maybe security will return to the Green zone. ;)

Alternatively, he’ll be replaced by someone very nearly as effective in the role, but with a longer leash and a mandate to do substantially more harm to US interests.

When in the annals of US adventurism has ‘whack a mole’ ever succesfully pacified turbulent Mideast soil?

I strongly expect this will make things worse, and that we’ve got some ugly tit for tat coming.
 
This is not whack a mole.  The head of the Quds Force is not a mole, he is a whale.  He is the uniformed head of a branch of a foreign military.  Someone has taken out the equivalent of a Combatant Commander.
 
Infanteer said:
This is not whack a mole.  The head of the Quds Force is not a mole, he is a whale.  He is the uniformed head of a branch of a foreign military.  Someone has taken out the equivalent of a Combatant Commander.

Yup- I meant more from the standpoint of making individual hostile actors go away versus anything that has a real strategic impact. Killing a combatant commander is definitely a big deal in some ways not at all so from the standpoint of degrading capabilities.

But yes, this would be akin to killing Petraeus or Mattis, or someone of that stature.
 
The latest from Reuters:

U.S. strike killed Iran Quds Force chief Soleimani: U.S. official

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States carried out a strike that killed Iranian Major-General Qassem Soleimani, head of the elite Quds Force, a U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity said on Thursday.

Reporting by Arshad Mohammed; Editing by Eric Beech

Link.

This is coming from an "unnamed" officials and should be taken with a grain of salt until confirmed, but if confirmed - wow.
 
Its official:

Trump orders attack that kills Iranian Gen. Qassim Soleimani, other military officials in Baghdad, Pentagon says

By Frank Miles | Fox News

Head of Iran's Quds Force killed in an airstrike

General Soleimani killed in airstrike amid U.S.-Iran tensions; reaction from 'The American Conservative' writer Curt Mills.

President Trump ordered a game-changing U.S. military attack that killed Iranian Gen. Qassim Soleimani, the head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' elite Quds Force, among other military officials at Baghdad International Airport early Friday, the Pentagon confirmed.

Soleimani is the military mastermind whom Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had deemed equally as dangerous as Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. In October, Baghdadi killed himself during a U.S. raid on a compound in northwest Syria, seven months after the so-called ISIS "caliphate" crumbled as the terrorist group lost its final swath of Syrian territory in March.

In April 2019, the State Department announced Iran was responsible for killing 608 U.S. troops during the Iraq War. Soleimani was the head of the Iranian and Iranian-backed forces carrying out those operations killing American troops. According to the State Department, 17 percent of all deaths of U.S. personnel in Iraq from 2003 to 2011 were orchestrated by Soleimani.

As recent as 2015, a travel ban and United Nations Security Council resolutions had barred Soleimani from leaving Iran.

The strike also killed Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the deputy commander of Iran-backed militias known as the Popular Mobilization Forces, three Iraqi officials told The Associated Press. Iraqi TV reported the deaths as well.

In all, at least seven people were killed and at least three rockets were fired, officials told The Associated Press.

There was no immediate comment from Iran. Hours after the attack was announced, President Trump tweeted a simple image of the American flag.

Soleimani was the long-running leader of the elite intelligence wing called Quds Force – which itself has been a designated terror group since 2007, and is estimated to be 20,000 strong. Considered one of the most powerful men in Iran, he routinely was referred to as its “shadow commander” or “spymaster.”

"Soleimani is our leader" had been photographed spray-painted on windows by Iran-backed militiamen at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.

Their deaths are a potential turning point in the Middle East, and are expected to draw severe retaliation from Iran and the forces it backs in the Middle East against Israel and American interests.

An official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said al-Muhandis had arrived to the airport in a convoy to receive Soleimani whose plane had arrived from either Lebanon or Syria. The airstrike occurred as soon as he descended from the plane to be greeted by al-Muhandis and his companions, killing them all.

As recent as 2015, a travel ban and United Nations Security Council resolutions had barred Soleimani from leaving Iran.

A senior politician said Soleimani's body was identified by the ring he wore.

The PMF blamed the United States for the attack.
How Qassem Soleimani is playing larger role on world stageVideo

Local reporters had suggested that pro-Iran military leaders may have been targeted, but officials have not yet confirmed all of the dead and who may have been behind the attack. An official with PMF told The Associated Press one of the victims was its airport protocol officer, identifying him as Mohammed Reda.

Iraq’s Security Media Cell, which released information regarding Iraqi security, said the three Katyusha rockets landed near the cargo hall.

Iraqi security also said two cars were on fire.

The nighttime attack occurred amid tensions with the U.S. after an Iran-backed militia attacked the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, which was targeted Tuesday by angry mobs who were protesting recent U.S. airstrikes.

The two-day siege outside of the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad came to an end Wednesday afternoon after dozens of pro-Iran militiamen and their supporters withdrew from the compound.

The crisis started early Tuesday, when, in an orchestrated assault, hundreds of protesters stormed the embassy compound, one of the most heavily fortified U.S. diplomatic missions in the world.

President Trump, who on Tuesday night vowed that the situation "will not be a Benghazi" -- a pointed reference to the deadly 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya on the Obama administration's watch, ordered deployment of about 750 U.S. soldiers to the Middle East.

The embassy attack, one of the worst in recent memory, followed deadly U.S. airstrikes on Sunday that killed 25 fighters of the Iran-backed group, the Kataeb Hezbollah. The U.S. military said the airstrikes were retaliation for last week's killing of an American contractor in a rocket attack on an Iraqi military base, which the U.S. blamed on the militia.

Secretary of Defense Mark Esper reacted on Thursday to the U.S. Embassy attack in Iraq earlier this week, saying that it's time for Iran to start "acting like a normal country.”

“We are there in Iraq working with our Iraqi partners to ensure the enduring defeat of ISIS,” Esper said on “America’s Newsroom” on Thursday.

“Through the president's direction, we were able to physically defeat the caliphate that remains physically defeated, if you will," he added. "And now, our aim is to deter further Iranian bad behavior that has been going on now for over 40 years. It's time that Iran started acting like a normal country.”

Fox News' Lucas Tomlinson, Mike Arroyo and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Link

Cry Havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War.
 
Good riddance. Maybe Iran will start to think twice about constantly destabilizing the Middle East, when its Quds Force Generals start dropping dead from Hellfires. They're a terrorist group, and got a terrorist leader's death, sans burial at sea unless they can retrieve the body.
 
https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/rockets-fired-at-baghdad-airport-qasim-suleimani-reported-killed-20200103-p53oku.html

US confirms it assassinated Iranian military chief Qassem Soleimani
Updated January 3, 2020 — 2.01pmfirst published at 12.26pm

Baghdad: The Pentagon says US military has killed Major-General Qassem Soleimani, head of Iran's elite Quds Force, at direction of US President Donald Trump.

"This strike was aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans," the Pentagon said in a statement.

The key Iranian military leader and an Iraqi militia commander, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, were assassinated in an air strike on their convoy in Baghdad airport, an Iraqi militia spokesman told Reuters.

"The American and Israeli enemy is responsible for killing the mujahideen Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis and Qassem Soleimani," said Ahmed al-Assadi, a spokesman for Iraq's Popular Mobilisation Forces umbrella grouping of Iran-backed militias.

US officials told Reuters that strikes had been carried out against two targets linked to Iran in Baghdad.

Trump whose Twitter account was quiet for 12 hours, posted a cryptic tweet, with no words just the American flag, shortly before the Pentagon confirmation.

The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, declined to give any further details.

Three rockets hit Baghdad International Airport, killing five members of Iraqi paramilitary groups and two "guests", Iraqi paramilitary groups said on Friday.

A Facebook page belonging to Iraqi Security Media posted photos it said were of the strikes.
Earlier the official said seven people were killed by a missile fired at the airport, blaming the United States.

The dead included its airport protocol officer, identifying him as Mohammed Reda.

A security official confirmed that seven people were killed in the attack on the airport, describing it as an air strike. Earlier, Iraq's Security Media Cell, which releases information regarding Iraqi security, said Katyusha rockets landed near the airport's cargo hall, killing several people and setting two cars on fire.

It was not immediately clear who fired the missile or rockets. There was no immediate comment from the US.

The security official said the bodies of those killed in the airport attack were burnt and difficult to identify. The official added that Reda may have been at the airport to pick up a group of "high-level" visitors who had arrived from a neighbouring country. He declined to provide more information.

Saudi television channel Al-Arabya TV reported Soleimani was killed in the attack, along with the head of Kataib Hezbollah Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis.  Iraqi state TV also carried the report quoting militia sources.

The attack came amid tensions with the United States after a New Year's Eve attack by Iran-backed militias on the US Embassy in Baghdad. The two-day embassy attack which ended on Thursday, Australian time, prompted President Donald Trump to order about 750 US soldiers deployed to the Middle East.

Trump earlier accused Iran of orchestrating the violence and threatened on Tuesday to retaliate against Iran but said later he did not want war.

The breach at the embassy followed US air strikes on Sunday that killed 25 fighters of the Iran-backed militia in Iraq, the Kataib Hezbollah. The US military said the strikes were in retaliation for last week's killing of an American contractor in a rocket attack on an Iraqi military base that the US blamed on the militia.

"The game has changed," Defence Secretary Mark Esper said on Friday, telling reporters that violent acts by Iran-backed Shiite militias in Iraq - including the rocket attack on December 27 that killed one American - will be met with US military force.

He said the Iraqi government has fallen short of its obligation to defend its American partner in the attack on the US embassy.

The developments also represent a major downturn in Iraq-US relations that could further undermine US influence in the region and American troops in Iraq and weaken Washington's hand in its pressure campaign against Iran.

More to come

Reuters, AP
 
The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.

- Ambassador Kosh
 
The question the Iranians are going to be asking themselves is who divulged the location and timing information? Publicly they blame US/Israel, but they have to worry if there is a leak from within, a pissed off Iraqi Shi militia or someone high up in the Iraqi government fed up with Iranian influence?
 
The US has been tracking him for years. Catching him out of Iran and in the open was perfect for no collateral damage. Remember that a US contractor was killed last week in a rocket attack and he was responsible for the deaths of over 600 americans in the Iraq War this was justified.
 
Maybe, we never know for sure, hopefully some "source" leaks to the Iranian friendly Iraqi that the information came from inside and then sit back and watch as they eat their own.
 
tomahawk6 said:
The US has been tracking him for years. Catching him out of Iran and in the open was perfect for no collateral damage. Remember that a US contractor was killed last week in a rocket attack and he was responsible for the deaths of over 600 americans in the Iraq War this was justified.

Understood. “Legally justified” doesn’t mean “tactically or strategically sound” though. That’s one of the problems with constantly firing everyone who gives you informed and nuanced advice though...

America can absolutely spank Iran viciously id they choose. But, assuming America wishes to stay short of all out military conflict with entire fleets at risk, which do you suppose can do more new harm to the other’s strategic and economic interests in the asymmetrical game?

We will have to see if this hit - satisfying as it may be - proves to have been ‘worth it’.
 
tomahawk6 said:
The US has been tracking him for years. Catching him out of Iran and in the open was perfect for no collateral damage. Remember that a US contractor was killed last week in a rocket attack and he was responsible for the deaths of over 600 americans in the Iraq War this was justified.

Don't get me wrong. I won't be shedding a tear for either Soleimani or al-Muhandis. They definitely had a major role to play in Iran's aggression in the region but to say the attack was justified because of some 600 American deaths is a bit disingenuous when one recalls that the US invaded Iraq in the first place on flimsy evidence, disassembled the Iraqi military and government structure which was the only thing keeping the sectarian strife under check and then completely botched the follow up restructure of Iraq for many years. The result of this US led fiasco was some 4,809 allied deaths (including the 600 that you mention), some 15,000 Iraqi military deaths, some 27,000 insurgent deaths and probably something in the order of several hundred thousand civilian deaths not to mention the untold numbers of seriously maimed people of all natures that still suffer as a result (the actual numbers, especially of civilians, vary wildly depending on source).

As I said I won't shed a tear for those two but I certainly hope the US has done a better analysis of what the downstream consequences of this little object lesson will be. I hope that they have but, regretfully, I think the ultimate go/no-go decision was probably based more on how this will sell with the November voting base.

Despite my criticism here, I wish the US luck because much of what happens next, will effect all of us.

:2c:
 
Pentagon info-machine's version ....
At the direction of the President, the U.S. military has taken decisive defensive action to protect U.S. personnel abroad by killing Qasem Soleimani, the head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Quds Force, a U.S.-designated Foreign Terrorist Organization.

General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region. General Soleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more. He had orchestrated attacks on coalition bases in Iraq over the last several months – including the attack on December 27th – culminating in the death and wounding of additional American and Iraqi personnel. General Soleimani also approved the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad that took place this week. 

This strike was aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans. The United States will continue to take all necessary action to protect our people and our interests wherever they are around the world.
 
And, next up, via Iranian media ...
Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei has appointed Esmail Qaani as the new head of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Quds Force following US assassination of Major General Qassem Soleimani.

"Following the martyrdom of the glorious general Qasem Soleimani, I name Brigadier General Esmail Qaani as the commander of the Quds Force of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps," the Leader said in a statement posted on his official website.

In the statement, the Leader described Gen. Qaani as one of the IRGC's most prominent commanders during Saddam's imposed war on Iran, which lasted eight years starting in 1980 ...
More in link, or in attached PDF in case you don't want to link to an IRN news site.
 

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