Is it time to list ANTIFA as a criminal or terrorist organization?

[ArmyRick]

If you’re going to assume every counter protest is “Antifa,”

Stop thinking your echoing Brihard points, your not even close. Brihard has first hand experience dealing with violent and unlawful protestors.

You, aren't following what I said. Nor do I think you observe things very well. Assuming comes from people wearing t-shirts and waving huge flags that say "ANTIFA". Can you explain that? No, you can't. Go through a history on it, you will see people brandishing antifa signs, clothing and flags at many demonstrations and protest. Explain that.

I realize antifa is not at every protest, but I am getting sick of people that pretend its not an issue. I spoke to a few ex-military friends who have been serving on Peel police for many years now and yeah, they are aware of what antifa is and described some of the similar problems in dealing with it as brihard has.

I am not pulling this info out of my ass.

considered a terrorist organization what you’re actually suggesting is that we outlaw protests we disagree with

Showing up and screaming loudly and obnoxiously while holding signs that you hate the right wing/conservatives/neo-nazi/fiscal responsibility/government funding being cut/whatever, fine. Thats a protest. I assume lawful. I have no issues with that. My parents did that many years ago on union strikes.

Punching people in the face, hitting them with signs, issuing direct threats of violence, throwing objects, etc at people is NOT LAWFUL protest. Do that shitty behaviour and you need to get charged with a crime in my view.

You tried to gaslight me, not on.

The question is should they be listed as a terrorist organization? I guess your answer no.

 

[Genetk44]

Stop thinking your echoing Brihard points, your not even close. Brihard has first hand experience dealing with violent and unlawful protestors.

You, aren't following what I said. Nor do I think you observe things very well. Assuming comes from people wearing t-shirts and waving huge flags that say "ANTIFA". Can you explain that? No, you can't. Go through a history on it, you will see people brandishing antifa signs, clothing and flags at many demonstrations and protest. Explain that.

I realize antifa is not at every protest, but I am getting sick of people that pretend its not an issue. I spoke to a few ex-military friends who have been serving on Peel police for many years now and yeah, they are aware of what antifa is and described some of the similar problems in dealing with it as brihard has.

I am not pulling this info out of my ass.


Showing up and screaming loudly and obnoxiously while holding signs that you hate the right wing/conservatives/neo-nazi/fiscal responsibility/government funding being cut/whatever, fine. Thats a protest. I assume lawful. I have no issues with that. My parents did that many years ago on union strikes.

Punching people in the face, hitting them with signs, issuing direct threats of violence, throwing objects, etc at people is NOT LAWFUL protest. Do that shitty behaviour and you need to get charged with a crime in my view.

You tried to gaslight me, not on.

The question is should they be listed as a terrorist organization? I guess your answer no.

“Punching people in the face, hitting them with signs, issuing direct threats of violence, throwing objects….”…..yes those are crimes, charge the perpetrators accordingly. But to try and use those actions as a reason to label somebody as a terrorist…or a group as a terrorist group is very over the top. During my 70 years on this planet the words “ terrorist,terrorist group, terror tactics etc., were used very specifically….until fairly recently. Unfortunately those words are being used far too often and increasingly inappropriately imho, sometimes by our own governments, very often by individual politicians and very commonly by just plain regular folks. And its usually an attempt by that entity/person to really vilify somebody or some situation that the speaker just doesn’t like. Those words are starting to loose their actual power and meaning by such casual use unfortunately.

 

[markppcli]

Stop thinking your echoing Brihard points, your not even close. Brihard has first hand experience dealing with violent and unlawful protestors.

In echoing his point not his experience.

You, aren't following what I said. Nor do I think you observe things very well. Assuming comes from people wearing t-shirts and waving huge flags that say "ANTIFA". Can you explain that? No, you can't. Go through a history on it, you will see people brandishing antifa signs, clothing and flags at many demonstrations and protest. Explain that.

People can wear what ever they want, there I explained it. Is everyone wearing a jersey a member of a sports team? I guess if I googled “antifa” I’d probably see a lot of pictures, but that’s hardly a fair way of examining evidence as it’s jus going to be cherry picked.

I realize antifa is not at every protest, but I am getting sick of people that pretend its not an issue. I spoke to a few ex-military friends who have been serving on Peel police for many years now and yeah, they are aware of what antifa is and described some of the similar problems in dealing with it as brihard has.

I am not pulling this info out of my ass.


Showing up and screaming loudly and obnoxiously while holding signs that you hate the right wing/conservatives/neo-nazi/fiscal responsibility/government funding being cut/whatever, fine. Thats a protest. I assume lawful. I have no issues with that. My parents did that many years ago on union strikes.

Concur

Punching people in the face, hitting them with signs, issuing direct threats of violence, throwing objects, etc at people is NOT LAWFUL protest. Do that shitty behaviour and you need to get charged with a crime in my viiew.

Where has anyone disagreed with you in that.

You tried to gaslight me, not on.

No I’m just following your argument.

The question is should they be listed as a terrorist organization? I guess your answer no.

For the what? Fourth time, see the difference between an organization and a movement and how that makes it different in terms of defining membership.