Is the Canadian Naval Reserve all but finished?
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All good comments and questions... As things stand right now, please remember that we're looking at NST from a pre-IOC phase. While we have the concepts created, we are working on making that concept a reality.
Using the Class A framework is going to be the largest stumbling block we have, for many of the reasons listed above. Remember, this is not a surge capability. This is a deliberate deployment, and as such, will have a 6-9month lead time.
A set of IT (Individual Training) requirements will be submitted to all NRDs, with NAVRES HQ support. Those selected will be brought to Esquimalt 5 weeks before deployment for CT (Collective Training) to be completed on site. Once the herd has been thinned, and we have reached the appropriate watermarks for training, we will deploy to whichever port the ship(s) will be at that we're supporting.
Don't think of this as something for every port visit, rather something for the RAMP visits. We arrive 3-4 days in advance, we execute whatever force protection is required based on the threat and ship's CO concurrence, wave the ship off, and return home.
Again, we are in the trial phase. IOC is scheduled for the upcoming summer, and it is a proof of concept. There's a lot of moving pieces, both strategic and tactical, that need to be weighed off prior to deploying.
If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to post them here, or in an appropriate forum. I'd prefer to keep all of this public, so you have the transparency needed to fully understand what the team is going to be.
Cheers,
NST Team
Using the Class A framework is going to be the largest stumbling block we have, for many of the reasons listed above. Remember, this is not a surge capability. This is a deliberate deployment, and as such, will have a 6-9month lead time.
A set of IT (Individual Training) requirements will be submitted to all NRDs, with NAVRES HQ support. Those selected will be brought to Esquimalt 5 weeks before deployment for CT (Collective Training) to be completed on site. Once the herd has been thinned, and we have reached the appropriate watermarks for training, we will deploy to whichever port the ship(s) will be at that we're supporting.
Don't think of this as something for every port visit, rather something for the RAMP visits. We arrive 3-4 days in advance, we execute whatever force protection is required based on the threat and ship's CO concurrence, wave the ship off, and return home.
Again, we are in the trial phase. IOC is scheduled for the upcoming summer, and it is a proof of concept. There's a lot of moving pieces, both strategic and tactical, that need to be weighed off prior to deploying.
If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to post them here, or in an appropriate forum. I'd prefer to keep all of this public, so you have the transparency needed to fully understand what the team is going to be.
Cheers,
NST Team
jaysfan17
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My last parade night we had a briefing and a small portion of it was in regards to the NST. The NST portion was very vague. What I was told was NAVRES wants to get 400 personnel trained up (Primarily Class A) and from there NST will take a portion (70-100 was the estimated number for one deployment) of that to deploy wherever. I was also told there will be some training for NST run in early to mid summer and that there could be a deployment as early as the summer of 2018 to East Asia. Again, not much was said but so far it sounds like something really interesting.
Colin Parkinson
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There is no reason a smaller vessel 50' can't be stationed at any of the marine based Reserve units and be taken out on Saturday or even during the evening. A lot of the basic seamanship stuff is built around just doing it.
FSTO
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Colin P said:
I'm an advocate of building another 8 ORCA's and stationing them on the Great Lakes, during the winter they could be hauled out of the water and put through a 2 month maintenance period. From Spring until late Fall they could ply the lakes.
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I'm surprised no one is mentioning all the new things going on for the naval reserves. The mission of the Naval reserves will be Class A, Orca and new NST. The MCDV's are changing 40% of their billets to regular force this year, and the year after 100%. All class of ship will have 5% reserves at any one time in the future, mostly as back fills. Contracts up to a year will be given no more than two consecutive contracts. All members on Class B/C that have a year experience Class C in the last 5 years will be offered a transfer at rank up to PO1 and LCdr.
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SUBJ: COMPONENT TRANSFER OPPORTUNITY FOR NAVRES TO REG F RCN
REF: A. NAVGEN 034-13 - NAVAL RESERVE SEA SERVICE
B. NPI 003 - NAVAL RESERVE SEA SERVICE
C. DAOD 5002-3 - COMPONENT AND SUB-COMPONENT TRANSFER
D. CF MIL PERS INST 20-04 - ADMIN POLICY OF CLASS A, CLASS B, AND
CLASS C RESERVE SERVICE
E. CF MIL PERS INST 03-08 - CF COMPONENT TRANSFER AND COMPONENT
TRANSFER CAREER PROGRAMS
1. IT IS THE CDS AND MND VISION THAT OUR RESERVES EVOLVE TO FULFILL
A MODERN, STRATEGIC ROLE BASED ON AUGMENTING THE REGULAR COMPONENT
OF THE CAF. WITHIN THE RCN, THIS INTENT CONTINUES TO BE THE RAISON D
ETRE OF THE ONGOING MODERNIZATION OF THE NAVAL RESERVE STRUCTURAL
REVIEW. CONCURRENT WITH THIS REVIEW IS A CHANGE IN THE CREWING MODEL
FOR OUR KINGSTON CLASS SHIPS
2. SINCE THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS CLASS IN 1995, THE NAVAL RESERVE
(NAVRES) HAS BEEN TASKED WITH THE CREWING OF THESE VESSELS. THIS LED
TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CADRE OF FULL-TIME CLASS C RESERVISTS WHO
FOR SEVERAL YEARS WERE ABLE TO MEET KINGSTON MANNING REQUIREMENTS.
HOWEVER, IN THE LONG TERM, THIS FORCE GENERATION MODEL PROVED TO BE
UNSUSTAINABLE.
3. AS A CONSEQUENCE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE THE CREWING OF THE KINGSTON
CLASS (I.E. THE ESTABLISHMENT) WILL CHANGE AS THE RCN REPURPOSES
EXISTING REGULAR FORCE POSITIONS INTO THESE VESSELS. THE GOAL IS TO
TRANSITION OUR CURRENT CREWING MODEL AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AND AS
SEAMLESSLY AS POSSIBLE, SUCH THAT BY 2019 THE KINGSTON CLASS WILL BE
CREWED PRIMARILY BY REGULAR FORCE PERSONNEL, WITH RESERVE PERSONNEL
AUGMENTING AT A LEVEL ACROSS THE ENTIRE RCN SURFACE FLEET AT A
MINIMUM OF FIVE PERCENT PER UNIT
4. IN LIGHT OF THESE CHANGES, ALL RESERVISTS, LCDR AND BELOW AND PO1
AND BELOW WHO MEET THE CRITERIA, WILL BE INVITED TO COMPONENT
TRANSFER (CT) TO THE REGULAR FORCE, AT RANK. THE CRITERIA ARE AS
FOLLOWS (NOTE THAT PERSONNEL WHO FALL OUTSIDE OF THE CRITERIA AND
WHO DESIRE A CT TO THE REGULAR FORCE WILL BE PROCESSED IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THE EXISTING CT APPLICATION PROCESS):
A. PERSONNEL CURRENTLY EMPLOYED IN A CLASS C CAPACITY IN A KINGSTON
CLASS VESSEL
B. PERSONNEL CURRENTLY ON CLASS A OR B EMPLOYMENT WHO HAVE BEEN ON
CLASS C CONTRACT WITHIN THE PAST 5 YEARS (FROM DATE OF PROMULGATION
OF THIS MESSAGE) IN A KINGSTON CLASS VESSEL
C. ARE LCDR OR BELOW (OFFICERS) OR PO1 AND BELOW (NCMS) IN RANK
D. CURRENT MOS IS: MARS, NCIOP, NAV COMM, BOSN, MESO, OR COOK (SEE
PARA 8A)
5. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT UNDER THIS INITIATIVE PERSONNEL SELECTED
FOR CT WHO ARE CURRENTLY POSTED TO A KINGSTON CLASS SHIP WILL
INITIALLY CONTINUE TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY. FUTURE EMPLOYMENT WILL
BE IAW NORMAL POSTING/CAREER CYCLES WITH THE INTENT THAT SERVICE IN
OTHER CLASSES OF SHIPS WILL REQUIRE DELTA TRAINING. PERSONNEL SHOULD
BE AWARE THAT FUTURE POSTINGS MIGHT INVOLVE POSTINGS OUTSIDE HPD IN
KEEPING WITH THE REGULAR FORCE REQUIREMENTS. FOR PERSONNEL CURRENTLY
POSTED ASHORE IN CLASS A OR B POSITIONS WHO MEET THE CRITERIA ABOVE,
A DETERMINATION OF DELTA TRAINING WHEN/IF REQUIRED WILL BE RESOLVED
ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS
6. THE RCN WILL CONTINUE TO PROMOTE ITS BEST OFFICERS AND NCMS BASED
ON MERIT. SELECTION BOARDS WILL IDENTIFY SAILORS WHO HAVE MASTERED
PERFORMANCE AND LEADERSHIP AT SEA AND HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO LEAD AT
THE NEXT RANK. I FULLY EXPECT THAT GIVEN THE MANY YEARS OF SEA-GOING
EXPERIENCE AMONGST THE PERSONNEL WHO CHOOSE TO CT, THAT THEY WILL
COMPETE FAVOURABLY AT THESE BOARDS.
7. CT CANDIDATES WILL BE PROCESSED IAW EXISTING CAF CT POLICIES.
HOWEVER, SPECIFIC ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES WILL BE INTRODUCED TO
STREAMLINE AND EXPEDITE THE CT PROCESS. AS SUCH, MEMBERS WILL NOT
APPLY ON-LINE, BUT RATHER A LETTER OF OFFER WILL BE SENT DIRECTLY TO
THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS MEETING THE
AFOREMENTIONED REQUIREMENTS. D NAV P AND T 3, SUPPORTED BY PCC
QUEBEC, WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR COMPILING THE REQUIRED INFORMATION
AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION, CONFIRMING THAT MEMBERS ARE QUALIFIED
IN OCCUPATION AND RANK, AND IDENTIFYING REGULAR FORCE POSITIONS INTO
WHICH MEMBERS WILL BE POSTED. THE LETTERS OF OFFER WILL ALSO INCLUDE
INFORMATION ON RANK AND POSITIONS. INDIVIDUALS WHO RECEIVE THESE
LETTERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO RESPOND NLT 30 JUN 17. ONCE AN
INDIVIDUAL ACCEPTS THE OFFER THEY WILL BE CONTACTED TO CONFIRM PAY
INCENTIVE, EPZ, COS, AND ADDITIONAL TRANSITION DETAILS. PERSONNEL
WHO MEET THE STATED CRITERIA AND WHO HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED CT
APPLICATIONS VIA THE REGULAR PROCESS NEED NOT WITHDRAW THOSE
APPLICATIONS, AS THEY WILL ALSO BE CONSIDERED UNDER THIS INITIATIVE
8. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR NCMS:
A. AT THIS TIME THE INITIATIVE PERTAINS TO NCIOP, NAV COMM, BOSN,
AND MESO. ASSISTANT CMP IS THE OCCUPATION AUTHORITY (OA) FOR THE
COOK OCCUPATION AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE RCN WILL EXTEND THIS
INITIATIVE TO THE COOKS, ALTHOUGH THEIR LETTERS WILL BE MODIFIED TO
ADDRESS DIFFERENCES. NAVRES NCMS IN OTHER OCCUPATIONS ARE STILL
ELIGIBLE TO SUBMIT CT REQUESTS THROUGH THE EXISTING CT PROCESS
B. FOR MESO, PERSONNEL ARE TO INDICATE IN THEIR RESPONSES PREFERENCE
FOR EITHER THE ELECTRICAL OR MECHANICAL STREAM
C. THE PORT INSPECTION DIVER (PID) OCCUPATION IS BEING CONSIDERED
FOR INCLUSION IN THIS INITIATIVE. ONCE CONFIRMED, FURTHER DETAILS
WILL BE FORWARDED
9. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR OFFICERS:
A. THE INITIATIVE PERTAINS TO MARS OFFICERS ONLY. FOR FUTURE
EMPLOYMENT, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE REQUIREMENT ASSOCIATED WITH
COMMAND OF AN FFH OR JSS WILL NOT CHANGE (I.E. ORO COURSE PLUS
SURFACE COMMAND QUALIFICATION). COMMAND OF A MMS OR AOPV WILL
REQUIRE EITHER A MINOR WAR VESSEL COMMAND QUALIFICATION OR A SURFACE
COMMAND QUALIFICATION. NAVRES OFFICERS IN OTHER OCCUPATIONS ARE
STILL ELIGIBLE TO SUBMIT CT REQUESTS THROUGH THE EXISTING CT PROCESS
B. CDR AND CPO FILES WILL BE REVIEWED ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS AND
RANK/POSITION OFFERS/RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE TAILORED TO INDIVIDUAL
CAPABILITIES AND EXPERIENCE
10. FOR ALL RANKS, PERSONNEL WHO BELIEVE THEY HAVE SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCES NOT ADDRESSED BY THIS NAVGEN (FOR EXAMPLE THOSE
ELIGIBLE PERSONNEL WHO WISH TO CT INTO A RCN MANAGED OCCUPATION NOT
IDENTIFIED IN PARA 8A OR PARA 9A) AND WHO WISH TO BE CONSIDERED
UNDER THIS CT INITIATIVE ARE INVITED TO CONTACT D NAV P AND T 3.
SIMILARLY PERSONNEL WITH QUESTIONS MAY CONTACT D NAV P AND T 3
DIRECTLY
11. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY IS COMPLETELY
VOLUNTARY AND THAT THOSE PERSONNEL WHO DO NOT WISH TO COMPONENT
TRANSFER INTO THE REGULAR FORCE MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR EMPLOYMENT
THROUGHOUT THE SURFACE FLEET OR IN OTHER CAPACITIES.
12. THIS INITIATIVE IS AIMED AT ENHANCING THE CAPABILITY OF THE RCN
WHILE MEETING THE PRIORITIES OF TODAY S FLEET AND PREPARING FOR THE
FUTURE FLEET.
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UNCLAS NAVGEN 041/16 RCN 048/16
SIC CNV/DPV/WLF
SUBJ: COMPONENT TRANSFER OPPORTUNITY FOR NAVRES TO REG F RCN
REF: A. NAVGEN 034-13 - NAVAL RESERVE SEA SERVICE
B. NPI 003 - NAVAL RESERVE SEA SERVICE
C. DAOD 5002-3 - COMPONENT AND SUB-COMPONENT TRANSFER
D. CF MIL PERS INST 20-04 - ADMIN POLICY OF CLASS A, CLASS B, AND
CLASS C RESERVE SERVICE
E. CF MIL PERS INST 03-08 - CF COMPONENT TRANSFER AND COMPONENT
TRANSFER CAREER PROGRAMS
1. IT IS THE CDS AND MND VISION THAT OUR RESERVES EVOLVE TO FULFILL
A MODERN, STRATEGIC ROLE BASED ON AUGMENTING THE REGULAR COMPONENT
OF THE CAF. WITHIN THE RCN, THIS INTENT CONTINUES TO BE THE RAISON D
ETRE OF THE ONGOING MODERNIZATION OF THE NAVAL RESERVE STRUCTURAL
REVIEW. CONCURRENT WITH THIS REVIEW IS A CHANGE IN THE CREWING MODEL
FOR OUR KINGSTON CLASS SHIPS
2. SINCE THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS CLASS IN 1995, THE NAVAL RESERVE
(NAVRES) HAS BEEN TASKED WITH THE CREWING OF THESE VESSELS. THIS LED
TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CADRE OF FULL-TIME CLASS C RESERVISTS WHO
FOR SEVERAL YEARS WERE ABLE TO MEET KINGSTON MANNING REQUIREMENTS.
HOWEVER, IN THE LONG TERM, THIS FORCE GENERATION MODEL PROVED TO BE
UNSUSTAINABLE.
3. AS A CONSEQUENCE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE THE CREWING OF THE KINGSTON
CLASS (I.E. THE ESTABLISHMENT) WILL CHANGE AS THE RCN REPURPOSES
EXISTING REGULAR FORCE POSITIONS INTO THESE VESSELS. THE GOAL IS TO
TRANSITION OUR CURRENT CREWING MODEL AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AND AS
SEAMLESSLY AS POSSIBLE, SUCH THAT BY 2019 THE KINGSTON CLASS WILL BE
CREWED PRIMARILY BY REGULAR FORCE PERSONNEL, WITH RESERVE PERSONNEL
AUGMENTING AT A LEVEL ACROSS THE ENTIRE RCN SURFACE FLEET AT A
MINIMUM OF FIVE PERCENT PER UNIT
4. IN LIGHT OF THESE CHANGES, ALL RESERVISTS, LCDR AND BELOW AND PO1
AND BELOW WHO MEET THE CRITERIA, WILL BE INVITED TO COMPONENT
TRANSFER (CT) TO THE REGULAR FORCE, AT RANK. THE CRITERIA ARE AS
FOLLOWS (NOTE THAT PERSONNEL WHO FALL OUTSIDE OF THE CRITERIA AND
WHO DESIRE A CT TO THE REGULAR FORCE WILL BE PROCESSED IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THE EXISTING CT APPLICATION PROCESS):
A. PERSONNEL CURRENTLY EMPLOYED IN A CLASS C CAPACITY IN A KINGSTON
CLASS VESSEL
B. PERSONNEL CURRENTLY ON CLASS A OR B EMPLOYMENT WHO HAVE BEEN ON
CLASS C CONTRACT WITHIN THE PAST 5 YEARS (FROM DATE OF PROMULGATION
OF THIS MESSAGE) IN A KINGSTON CLASS VESSEL
C. ARE LCDR OR BELOW (OFFICERS) OR PO1 AND BELOW (NCMS) IN RANK
D. CURRENT MOS IS: MARS, NCIOP, NAV COMM, BOSN, MESO, OR COOK (SEE
PARA 8A)
5. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT UNDER THIS INITIATIVE PERSONNEL SELECTED
FOR CT WHO ARE CURRENTLY POSTED TO A KINGSTON CLASS SHIP WILL
INITIALLY CONTINUE TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY. FUTURE EMPLOYMENT WILL
BE IAW NORMAL POSTING/CAREER CYCLES WITH THE INTENT THAT SERVICE IN
OTHER CLASSES OF SHIPS WILL REQUIRE DELTA TRAINING. PERSONNEL SHOULD
BE AWARE THAT FUTURE POSTINGS MIGHT INVOLVE POSTINGS OUTSIDE HPD IN
KEEPING WITH THE REGULAR FORCE REQUIREMENTS. FOR PERSONNEL CURRENTLY
POSTED ASHORE IN CLASS A OR B POSITIONS WHO MEET THE CRITERIA ABOVE,
A DETERMINATION OF DELTA TRAINING WHEN/IF REQUIRED WILL BE RESOLVED
ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS
6. THE RCN WILL CONTINUE TO PROMOTE ITS BEST OFFICERS AND NCMS BASED
ON MERIT. SELECTION BOARDS WILL IDENTIFY SAILORS WHO HAVE MASTERED
PERFORMANCE AND LEADERSHIP AT SEA AND HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO LEAD AT
THE NEXT RANK. I FULLY EXPECT THAT GIVEN THE MANY YEARS OF SEA-GOING
EXPERIENCE AMONGST THE PERSONNEL WHO CHOOSE TO CT, THAT THEY WILL
COMPETE FAVOURABLY AT THESE BOARDS.
7. CT CANDIDATES WILL BE PROCESSED IAW EXISTING CAF CT POLICIES.
HOWEVER, SPECIFIC ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES WILL BE INTRODUCED TO
STREAMLINE AND EXPEDITE THE CT PROCESS. AS SUCH, MEMBERS WILL NOT
APPLY ON-LINE, BUT RATHER A LETTER OF OFFER WILL BE SENT DIRECTLY TO
THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS MEETING THE
AFOREMENTIONED REQUIREMENTS. D NAV P AND T 3, SUPPORTED BY PCC
QUEBEC, WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR COMPILING THE REQUIRED INFORMATION
AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION, CONFIRMING THAT MEMBERS ARE QUALIFIED
IN OCCUPATION AND RANK, AND IDENTIFYING REGULAR FORCE POSITIONS INTO
WHICH MEMBERS WILL BE POSTED. THE LETTERS OF OFFER WILL ALSO INCLUDE
INFORMATION ON RANK AND POSITIONS. INDIVIDUALS WHO RECEIVE THESE
LETTERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO RESPOND NLT 30 JUN 17. ONCE AN
INDIVIDUAL ACCEPTS THE OFFER THEY WILL BE CONTACTED TO CONFIRM PAY
INCENTIVE, EPZ, COS, AND ADDITIONAL TRANSITION DETAILS. PERSONNEL
WHO MEET THE STATED CRITERIA AND WHO HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED CT
APPLICATIONS VIA THE REGULAR PROCESS NEED NOT WITHDRAW THOSE
APPLICATIONS, AS THEY WILL ALSO BE CONSIDERED UNDER THIS INITIATIVE
8. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR NCMS:
A. AT THIS TIME THE INITIATIVE PERTAINS TO NCIOP, NAV COMM, BOSN,
AND MESO. ASSISTANT CMP IS THE OCCUPATION AUTHORITY (OA) FOR THE
COOK OCCUPATION AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE RCN WILL EXTEND THIS
INITIATIVE TO THE COOKS, ALTHOUGH THEIR LETTERS WILL BE MODIFIED TO
ADDRESS DIFFERENCES. NAVRES NCMS IN OTHER OCCUPATIONS ARE STILL
ELIGIBLE TO SUBMIT CT REQUESTS THROUGH THE EXISTING CT PROCESS
B. FOR MESO, PERSONNEL ARE TO INDICATE IN THEIR RESPONSES PREFERENCE
FOR EITHER THE ELECTRICAL OR MECHANICAL STREAM
C. THE PORT INSPECTION DIVER (PID) OCCUPATION IS BEING CONSIDERED
FOR INCLUSION IN THIS INITIATIVE. ONCE CONFIRMED, FURTHER DETAILS
WILL BE FORWARDED
9. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR OFFICERS:
A. THE INITIATIVE PERTAINS TO MARS OFFICERS ONLY. FOR FUTURE
EMPLOYMENT, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE REQUIREMENT ASSOCIATED WITH
COMMAND OF AN FFH OR JSS WILL NOT CHANGE (I.E. ORO COURSE PLUS
SURFACE COMMAND QUALIFICATION). COMMAND OF A MMS OR AOPV WILL
REQUIRE EITHER A MINOR WAR VESSEL COMMAND QUALIFICATION OR A SURFACE
COMMAND QUALIFICATION. NAVRES OFFICERS IN OTHER OCCUPATIONS ARE
STILL ELIGIBLE TO SUBMIT CT REQUESTS THROUGH THE EXISTING CT PROCESS
B. CDR AND CPO FILES WILL BE REVIEWED ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS AND
RANK/POSITION OFFERS/RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE TAILORED TO INDIVIDUAL
CAPABILITIES AND EXPERIENCE
10. FOR ALL RANKS, PERSONNEL WHO BELIEVE THEY HAVE SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCES NOT ADDRESSED BY THIS NAVGEN (FOR EXAMPLE THOSE
ELIGIBLE PERSONNEL WHO WISH TO CT INTO A RCN MANAGED OCCUPATION NOT
IDENTIFIED IN PARA 8A OR PARA 9A) AND WHO WISH TO BE CONSIDERED
UNDER THIS CT INITIATIVE ARE INVITED TO CONTACT D NAV P AND T 3.
SIMILARLY PERSONNEL WITH QUESTIONS MAY CONTACT D NAV P AND T 3
DIRECTLY
11. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY IS COMPLETELY
VOLUNTARY AND THAT THOSE PERSONNEL WHO DO NOT WISH TO COMPONENT
TRANSFER INTO THE REGULAR FORCE MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR EMPLOYMENT
THROUGHOUT THE SURFACE FLEET OR IN OTHER CAPACITIES.
12. THIS INITIATIVE IS AIMED AT ENHANCING THE CAPABILITY OF THE RCN
WHILE MEETING THE PRIORITIES OF TODAY S FLEET AND PREPARING FOR THE
FUTURE FLEET.
daftandbarmy
Army.ca Dinosaur
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FSTO said:How about the money spent on all the social experimentation that goes on in the CAF. >
Or taxpayer funded sports teams?
Oh boy...
Did she seem to understand that there was a long, long list of readily available things we could cut & redirect to more 'military things'?
Good thing she didn't ask where we could have taken that money from. I'm sure she'd have left with banker boxes full of lists. >
Did she seem to understand that there was a long, long list of readily available things we could cut & redirect to more 'military things'?
Good thing she didn't ask where we could have taken that money from. I'm sure she'd have left with banker boxes full of lists. >
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CBH99 said:Oh boy...
Did she seem to understand that there was a long, long list of readily available things we could cut & redirect to more 'military things'?
Good thing she didn't ask where we could have taken that money from. I'm sure she'd have left with banker boxes full of lists. >
I'm actually going to claim ignorance here. As far as I can see, NAVRES is doing a good job of spending the money it has. The NRETS events are expensive, but that's nature of the beast; training people from 24 units across the country costs a lot in travel expenses. But I doubt those travel expenses, added up, equal the price of an ORCA, plus the infrastructure needed to maintain it.
Where else could we cut money from in NAVRES?
Monsoon
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I think there's been enough trimming in QC that we can say that we've gotten to the point where there isn't really any duplication of function between NAVRESHQ and MARPAC HQ (i.e. IT, admin and finance services, etc). Everyone who's doing the minimal organizational support work in QC would just be shifted to Victoria, so there'd be relocation costs and no particular longer-term savings. The Fleet School in particular is now effectively just a classroom building and accommodations facility that can host courses owned by NPTG and staffed by augmentee instructors - not much fat to trim there either, and a useful bit of training capacity during peak periods.ModlrMike said:
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Morning,
Hopefully I can provide some clarification.
NAVRESHQ is looking for 400 people, to determine training requirements, desire, ability to deploy, etc. These 400 people will not be trained beyond the scope of what would normally be expected for someone who is looking to potentially take a class B or C contract. They will most likely get extra resources to ensure that they are able to maintain C7/C8, Sig, first aid, etc. Intent behind that is to get as much of the individual training done at the units.
I will be releasing the CFTPO's for the team later today, through PCC(O), who will then source via PCC(Q). Working with them, we will select the 70 people who will be joining us for a 2 month contract for training and deployment to Korea, in order to test the RCN's capability of deploying a predominately class A expeditionary land force. While this is something our friends in green do all the time, it's a new concept for us, and we want to make sure we do it right.
The training and deployment will take place from 15 May - 15 July (give or take a day or two) and will be on the west coast. Should you want a contract for the remainder of summer, I've been assured that this will happen.
Hopefully that answers some of your questions, let me know if you have any more.
XO - NST
Hopefully I can provide some clarification.
NAVRESHQ is looking for 400 people, to determine training requirements, desire, ability to deploy, etc. These 400 people will not be trained beyond the scope of what would normally be expected for someone who is looking to potentially take a class B or C contract. They will most likely get extra resources to ensure that they are able to maintain C7/C8, Sig, first aid, etc. Intent behind that is to get as much of the individual training done at the units.
I will be releasing the CFTPO's for the team later today, through PCC(O), who will then source via PCC(Q). Working with them, we will select the 70 people who will be joining us for a 2 month contract for training and deployment to Korea, in order to test the RCN's capability of deploying a predominately class A expeditionary land force. While this is something our friends in green do all the time, it's a new concept for us, and we want to make sure we do it right.
The training and deployment will take place from 15 May - 15 July (give or take a day or two) and will be on the west coast. Should you want a contract for the remainder of summer, I've been assured that this will happen.
Hopefully that answers some of your questions, let me know if you have any more.
XO - NST
luttrellfan said:
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I've heard informal discussions of this, but can someone point me to an official plan / message / document suitable for those without DIN access? What happens to the KINGSTON class crews? I don't see them being whisked off and replaced with Reg crews all of a sudden. [lol:
Monsoon
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I don't think anyone is getting "whisked" anywhere. From what I understand, the plan is for the individuals to remain for the most part in their current positions, just with new (Reg F rather than class B/C) terms of service. At that point, when folks are posted off their ship in a future APS (maybe two or three years down the road) they'll either be replaced by a Reg F member or a class B/C person depending on availability.nick21infinite said:
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Monsoon said:
CT's are coming for Kingston Class personnel who want them and from what I have been told some, not all are taking them. The CT's are some time away and as previously stated some will remain in the Class until delta training can be completed and eventual transition to future fleet. Currently for some trades no further core crew SOU's are being given out however extensions are still being granted. I expect in regards to the core crew billets all trades will eventually be closed to personnel wanting them, with the eventual transition to an entire regular force crewing model with the exception of 5% (2 pers) being reserve on ship.
I suggest that any personnel looking for reserve employment call their career manager.
Monsoon
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I think you're right, but the target is a minimum of 5% reserve crewing "across the fleet" - that's about 150 positions. Bearing in mind that by the time they reach that point they'll have taken anyone who wants to transfer into the Reg F, that number sounds about right for augmentee/OJT/experiential training/etc for predominantly class "A" reservists. I agree with your point that anyone looking to make a lifetime career of sailing should take the offer, though.Chief Stoker said:
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Monsoon said:
The message says "WITH RESERVE PERSONNEL AUGMENTING AT A LEVEL ACROSS THE ENTIRE RCN SURFACE FLEET AT A
MINIMUM OF FIVE PERCENT PER UNIT". Now that being said more than 5% is probably going to be utilized as the NRD's do have a fairly large number of qualified personnel and they would be short-sighted not to utilize that.
At this time it does appear that long term personnel like myself will be employed to meet pension goals. I have already been contacted about a CT, however unless its something I want to take i'll continue with Class B/C as I'm 3 yrs away from 25 yrs full time. With the state of manning pan RCN it is my opinion that if anyone reservist wants a job on a ship and they can fill that job they should be allowed to do so seamlessly transiting from part time to full time and vice versa.
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