Israel in the 21st Century

[The Bread Guy]

If Hamas survives, I think Israel plan is to give space for another power faction in Gaza to grow, that won't like Israel, but has other interests than attacking it.

That didn’t work with Hamas when ISR turned a blind eye as a way to screw PLO & Co., so let’s hope the next try works out better for them.

Although there’s no shortage of tribes/families to co-opt, the same ones can also be co-opted by others wanting to continue to screw ISR in the left ear.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

It's quite possible they have learned from their mistakes, there are very few options to do. You have a couple generations of Palestinians trained to believe that there can be no peace with Israel. Just watching a clip on people being asked if there can be peace with Israel and the most common answer is "Never" That is the level of indoctrination and also likley fear of being labelled a traitor.

The only success is a local faction providing water, power and food, along with peace with Egypt, because without that element there is no future in Gaza. That faction has to be backed up by the IDF. The Israelis don't want Palestinians working in Israel anymore, most of the people that suffered the most on Oct 7th was the peaceniks that wanted peace with Palestinians.

 

[OldSolduer]

It's quite possible they have learned from their mistakes, there are very few options to do. You have a couple generations of Palestinians trained to believe that there can be no peace with Israel. Just watching a clip on people being asked if there can be peace with Israel and the most common answer is "Never" That is the level of indoctrination and also likley fear of being labelled a traitor.

My wild ass guess is there is at least three generations who have known nothing but "Israel is our enemy" mantra. Even if there is a two state solution Israel will still be under threat.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

My wild ass guess is there is at least three generations who have known nothing but "Israel is our enemy" mantra. Even if there is a two state solution Israel will still be under threat.

Undoubtedly, that threat might subside, but never to go away. Islam cannot tolerate being an equal of Jews, Christians and others, Israel existence and that of the Jews is a failure of the Islamic leaders that must be rectified.