Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[ueo]

The man should be retired at this point, he's almost 70, how is there not a retirement age for politicians?

Old school, blue pinstriped politician ,owes his loyalty to the talking head of the day! Next origional thought will be his first!

 

[Rifleman62]

I will put money on it. $50 to Army.ca

I bet that compliant Blair will now announce that Bombardier offer to replace the CP140 Aurora is open.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I will put money on it. $50 to Army.ca

I bet that compliant Blair will now announce that Bombardier offer to replace the CP140 Aurora is open.

I'm betting on a 'social credit' program being introduced to the CAF to deal with all the culture shift laggards.

Luckily, there's already a SME on the subject we can borrow from

The complicated truth about China's social credit system

China's social credit system isn't a world first but when it's complete it will be unique. The system isn't just as simple as everyone being given a score though

www.wired.co.uk

 

[Quirky]

According to recent studies, cognitive decline starts occurring after 70, so that seems like a valid cut off

Just look at the US to see what happens when old white men hold onto power past their prime....

 

[Good2Golf]

Just look at the US to see what happens when old white men hold onto power past their prime....

Warren Buffet and Rupert Murdoch?

 

[OldSolduer]

Bill Blair is a loyal soldier who will do whatever he is told to do then say "I was following orders".

Old school, blue pinstriped politician ,owes his loyalty to the talking head of the day! Next origional thought will be his first!

I agree - he should have stayed in Toronto and retired.

 

[dimsum]

I will put money on it. $50 to Army.ca

I bet that compliant Blair will now announce that Bombardier offer to replace the CP140 Aurora is open.

I'll take that bet.

It can "Value Proposition" all they want, but Bombardier would still need to prove that they have something beyond a CGI drawing.

 

[GR66]

I'm betting on a 'social credit' program being introduced to the CAF to deal with all the culture shift laggards.

Luckily, there's already a SME on the subject we can borrow from

The complicated truth about China's social credit system

China's social credit system isn't a world first but when it's complete it will be unique. The system isn't just as simple as everyone being given a score though

www.wired.co.uk

To be implemented by the same people that brought you the Phoenix pay system!

 

[Rifleman62]

It can "Value Proposition" all they want, but Bombardier would still need to prove that they have something beyond a CGI drawing.

Prove to whom? It's Bombardier located where votes are. The CF/Allies requirements be dammed.

 

[dimsum]

Prove to whom? It's Bombardier located where votes are. The CF/Allies requirements be dammed.

Picking something based on politics instead of the stated (and public) High Level Mandatory Requirements would be a great pretext for a Boeing lawsuit.

 

[FSTO]

Picking something based on politics instead of the stated (and public) High Level Mandatory Requirements would be a great pretext for a Boeing lawsuit.

EH 101 anyone?

 

[dimsum]

EH 101 anyone?

That's a bit different though. The Chretien govt didn't pick another thing, it just cancelled it.

It'd be a different issue if the analysis proposed the EH101, and the GoC said "thanks but we're going with this thing designed in Flin Flon, which is on the back of a napkin right now but I promise will be better".

 

[FSTO]

That's a bit different though. The Chretien govt didn't pick another thing, it just cancelled it.

It'd be a different issue if the analysis proposed the EH101, and the GoC said "thanks but we're going with this thing designed in Flin Flon, which is on the back of a napkin right now but I promise will be better".

Damn, so the Trudeau gov has the option of cancelling MMA and just carrying on with CP140! That is a COA if IRC.

 

[dimsum]

Damn, so the Trudeau gov has the option of cancelling MMA and just carrying on with CP140! That is a COA if IRC.

Sure, I guess - not replacing something is always a COA for any procurement project.

But if that happens, the CPC etc would have a windfall in political ammo, even more so than the Sea King replacement fiasco.

 

[Good2Golf]

Prove to whom? It's Bombardier located where votes are. The CF/Allies requirements be dammed.

If it actually worked that way without other factors, there might be something to that. Read the tea leaves in Quebec and there are no promises that a Bombardier deal would translate directly to more Liberal votes. As well, so the calculus with America’s economic Sword of Damocles hanging over Canada’s financial head, we’re along for the ride…the second Uncle Sam wants to flex for real, watch dairy supply management come under fire again…you want to see grass roots Quebec votes for the Canadian Government of the day dry up, watch their dairy industry get screwed by an American sandpaper-covered condom…

EH 101 anyone?

At least Chretien stuck with his election promise…and Uncle Sam really didn’t care because it wasn’t a US company losing the contract. Trudeau folded on his ‘Cancel the F-35’ promise like a cheap card table…on America’s orders.

That's a bit different though. The Chretien govt didn't pick another thing, it just cancelled it.

It'd be a different issue if the analysis proposed the EH101, and the GoC said "thanks but we're going with this thing designed in Flin Flon, which is on the back of a napkin right now but I promise will be better"

Yup.

Damn, so the Trudeau gov has the option of cancelling MMA and just carrying on with CP140! That is a COA if IRC.

The nuclear foot-shooting option is always there…

It’s cute when people think that Canada is the master of its own destiny at the moment…

 

[FSTO]

Sure, I guess - not replacing something is always a COA for any procurement project.

But if that happens, the CPC etc would have a windfall in political ammo, even more so than the Sea King replacement fiasco.

The Sea King “fiasco” cost Chrétien not one vote.
Canadians overall do not care.

 

[Kirkhill]

Join AUKUS cough.

Aussies, US agree to joint intel center, co-production of GMLRS - Breaking Defense

Australian defense minister Richard Marles hailed the deal as a "significant step forward" toward what he called "seamless" intelligence sharing.

breakingdefense.com

Do you think Canada could be making missiles in Canada with Canadians for Canadians? And interpreting data?

 

[KevinB]

Aussies, US agree to joint intel center, co-production of GMLRS - Breaking Defense

Australian defense minister Richard Marles hailed the deal as a "significant step forward" toward what he called "seamless" intelligence sharing.

breakingdefense.com

Do you think Canada could be making missiles in Canada with Canadians for Canadians? And interpreting data?

Depending on the missiles yes.

 

[Kirkhill]

Depending on the missiles yes.

Here's the Aussie slate from the article.

US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Saturday that the US would be “racing” to give Australia access to advanced munitions. In the AUSMIN joint communique issued after the speeches, the two countries said they would produce Lockheed Martin’s Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System munition. On top of that, they “reaffirmed their commitment to address global supply chain constraints and to transfer technical data for the M795 155mm artillery shell in support of future production in Australia.” And the foreign and defense ministers said Australia and the US would speed to maintain, “repair, overhaul, and upgrade” MK-48 heavyweight torpedoes and SM-2 missiles in Australia.

“This can’t happen soon enough,” tweeted Ashley Townshend, senior fellow for Indo-Pacific security at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, who called the deal “excellent news.” Townshend added that he would like to eventually see agreements for Australia that sees the Lucky Country “be part of manufacturing and stockpiling missile systems like LRASM, JASSEM-ER, SM6, HIMARS, and Tomahawks,” although those systems were not mentioned in the communique.

 

[KevinB]

Here's the Aussie slate from the article.

Well be a good partner...