Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[FSTO]

I don’t know. From the highlighted bit I think he’s saying “it is what it is” in more words.

So it’s more like “I’d want to, but currently don’t have the means to.”

Other commonwealth countries are able to do it. There is no reason but apathy not to try harder.

 

[rmc_wannabe]

Other commonwealth countries are able to do it. There is no reason but apathy not to try harder.

Agreed.

Defence of our nation and national interests is not something that our politic parties should be that far apart on ideologically.

The fact that all of them share this current ideology evenly is dishearting:

 

[YZT580]

I don’t know. From the highlighted bit I think he’s saying “it is what it is” in more words.

So it’s more like “I’d want to, but currently don’t have the means to.”

have they even tried? His words imply that he didn't even attempt it

 

[Fabius]

I’m not convinced our system can actually support a bipartisan consensus.
The main mechanism to support that; the parliament and its committees are not influential in any meaningful way nor are they actually given bipartisan information by the defence officials whether uniformed or not.
There are a few examples of this;

Support ships; officials have testified that the two on order is sufficient when the Navy’s own documents state 4 is the minimum.

Fighters; the RCAF stated that the current and future fighter fleet of 65 was GTG, then the Cabinet announced there was a fighter gap and we needed 88.

It’s obvious that the Cabinet and the MND have more influence over what the Defence officials; uniformed and civilian; articulate to Parliament than strategic, operational and tactical assessments as professionals.

A feature of the Canadian system is that the balancing of those professional assessments and political priorities is done behind closed doors, and once cabinet decisions are made the professionals don’t publicly discuss the ramifications good or bad with parliament in a transparent bipartisan manner.

Without the parliamentary committee having more influence and more fulsome bipartisan discussion with the professionals, bipartisan consensus would only be the federal cabinet telling the parliament both government and opposition MPs what they had decided and the MPs agreeing without skepticism or questioning.

 

[dimsum]

have they even tried? His words imply that he didn't even attempt it

I’m just going off @FSTO ’s earlier post, but it said that he tried and failed, then clarified with the highlighted part I commented on.

So…yes?

 

[MilEME09]

prefab homes seem to be pretty expensive these days though. Maybe not more expensive for the government?

Quick Google search has the price about 270k per unit before installation. With an installation coat between $50 to $100 per square ft to install. At that price, a half a billion dollars would potentially get us a lot of units.

 

[PuckChaser]

Quick Google search has the price about 270k per unit before installation. With an installation coat between $50 to $100 per square ft to install. At that price, a half a billion dollars would potentially get us a lot of units.

Not after DCC and CFHA get their cut.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Not after DCC and CFHA get their cut.

DCC takes 10% project value as their fee, IIRC.

 

[McG]

Neither European country is an approach to the US. If the US determined that American boots needed to be on Canadian soil to counter an imminent and significant threat, they are more likely to tell us what they are doing than to ask our permission.

That being said, it is difficult to imagine what hypothetical threat might actually trigger such a behaviour so long as we remain a contributing, cooperative partner in NORAD.

The calculus changes under a Trump admin, as Edward mentions above. The MAGA camp has already pontificated about using military force against Canada and about “liberating” Canada. It would possible to see a Trump administration conflating failure to meet the NATO 2% GDP commitment with a failure to meet continental defence obligations (it would not be unreasonable for any administration to connect these two things despite there being technically separate). It would not subsequently be completely improbable to see a Trump administration leap to the conclusion that America must occupy the delinquent Canada to secure itself.

Well that happened quicker than I expected.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Deep inside every Canuck there is an American trying to get out.

 

[Grimey]

Deep inside every Canuck there is an American trying to get out.

It’s all about the duality of man, man.