GK .Dundas
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Or Isreal not that long ago either.
Keir Starmer Announces Resignation
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The UK has stagnated before. What's lacking is a Thatcher.
Ever closer union is stuttering in a lot of countries.
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Countries rarely decide to shoot itself in the foot, then blame every subsequent leader for not being able to keep up with its peers.
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So just like us? But let's spend 90 billion on a train when we can't afford to service the things we have already.
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We are not as broke as the UK, so no.
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So Altair's position is the UK screwed themselves by parting ways with the countries most accessible to them? Hmmm,..........irony anyone?
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Well yes,......Mr. Carney's already done his dirty work there.
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Why are you allowed to get away with trolling?Well yes,......Mr. Carney's already done his dirty work there.
Anyways, Carney said Brexit was stupid and would negatively harm the UK. UK did it anyways. Now they are up shits creek without a paddle, and people blame Carney for it, despite him saying it was moronic.
And history has proved him right. They should have elected Carney as PM, he might have saved the UK from itself. Too bad for them, we got him.
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You go find where I said walk away from USMCA/CUSMA. Please, I would love to see where I said that.
I've said diversify away from the USA and reduce our dependancy on them, and I've said sign a new deal whenever a mentally competent democrat is in office.
So if you're done lying about what I say, maybe lets swing this back to the UK being ungovernable.
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Usually an emoji following a sentence means it's in jest,.........someone needs to "lighten up Francis".
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..and if one doesn't come quick enough?
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We have 10 years. Thats a lot of lead time even if the worse comes to pass.
Oh the rumbling and mumbling is there for sure, but the Liberal caucus has never given itself the powers available under the Reform Act so they have no formal mechanism to do anything about it. Also, it's one thing to be disgruntled on the backbenches of a party with a majority government one year in and with a leader still apparently enjoying a honeymoon with the voters. Quite another to be on the backbenches of a majority government half way through it's mandate and with a leader whose approval rating was lower than Liz Truss's, who was herself arguably less popular that a lettuce....
There's a very basic question any Liberal MP feeling the party has moved too far to the (gasp) centre should ask themselves. Is it better to be a disgruntled leftist on this side of the aisle or to check out the view from the seats occupied by the independent MPs otherwise known as the NDP caucus?
Add in parliamentary secretaries and committee chairs and really, the odds of getting some post on top of just being an MP are pretty good in Canada.
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Thatcher took over shortly after the UK joined the EU and while the 70s and 80s were generally volatile that's when their whole banking system was restructured and became a huge part of the UK economy (and conversely manufacturing dropped off a lot, and Thatcher went hard over on miners and other blue collar types).
They spent 50 years making their whole economy interlinked with other countries and rely on free movement for labour, then decided to pull out of it out of shear stupidity, after (largely Thatcher) burning through most of their natural resources turning UK into a service economy for the EU.
They don't need a Thatcher, they need someone to beg the EU. Would be hilarious if getting back into the EU is finally what gets Scottish independence pushed through.
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The UK did not shoot itself in the foot, unless you accept only limited criteria for measuring benefit and cost.
Exiting the EU has economic costs.
Exiting the EU has political (sovereignty) benefits.
Maitres chez nous has immense value. It turned out EU membership imposes risks of lowest-common-denominator and tragedy-of-commons problems.
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I am trying to think of any prior instance I've come across of someone advancing the proposition that moving from resources to services is not entirely a good idea, and coming up short. Usually in Canada we lament our position as "hewers-of-wood-and-drawers-of-water" and dream about moving up.
Well done.
Exiting the EU added transaction costs which resulting in some outflows, but it didn't end the country.
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Sure thing. But when it comes to governance, the population isnt giving UK PMs grace to deal with those economic costs.
They want their services, they dont want higher taxes, the UK economy cannot function because the financial sector doesnt have the seamless access to the continent.
So now every PM is handed a poisoned chalice. Please the population with no fiscal capacity to do so, trying to fit the square peg into the triangle hole, get massively unpopular and get the boot by their party or the electorate.
The UK will have had 7 Prime ministers in 10 years.
They had 7 prime ministers in the previous 42 years.
Talk sovereignty all you want, brexit broke the UK. And now nobody can run it.
Big win, ya?
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