Keir Starmer Announces Resignation

[Navy_Pete]

I will challenge that, London's finical hub was full of dirty Russian money while they were part of the EU, it's my understanding that much of that money fled back to the EU when the UK left.

Aside from London, BVI, Cayman Islands and Bermuda are huge tax havens, as well as the Isles of Jersey, Mann and Guernsey.

A huge amount of the laundering was also via real estate, so dumping it at a high point if you expect it to lose value isn't a surprise.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

the UK conservatives. They were in power 14 of the last 16 years.

Sorry? I thought we slid sideways into our own country's problems in comparison. When you brought up CUSMA, we switched to the west Atlantic landmass.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

What are you on about now? The US doesn't want us to be in an economic union, they want to raid our natural resource cupboard for themselves, while giving us nothing.

EU countries are still sovereign entities and equal parties, the US wants us to be their gimp. The UK also had an outsized influence on the EU as well, until they blew their softpower by letting the loudmouth idiots run things. Which is an obvious parallel.

I'll agree, to an extent. Yeah, he's a loud mouth, yes he threats, demeans, is controlling and merciless. But I don’t see much difference between him and Carney. Both are liars, both are hooked in to international finance and personal wealth growth. Both are extremely well known to each other to the point they would be freinds depending on the soiree they attended. Both have dealt with each other before. Carney's Brookfield owns the largest pipeline in the US.

So yeah, not at all as one sided as the Canadian government would like you to believe. A lot of the stall in trade agreements is Carney refusing to seriously come to the table, while flying around the world trying to find the deal he wants. He wants options. . Nobody is listening. He needs to keep the population fearing trump, making him the bad guy. He thinks he can fool Canadians again. I think not, but he seems incapable of taking advice or changing Meanwhile, the US is getting fed up with the waffling.

 

[Altair]

Sorry? I thought we slid sideways into our own country's problems in comparison. When you brought up CUSMA, we switched to the west Atlantic landmass.

Yeah, I figured. I withheld my snark. I'll specify next time.

That said, the UK Tories were definitely not woke by any measure, were hokdijg back spending on illegals and trying to get them deported to Africa, but still ended up with a lot of the same issues.

Not everything is transferable naturally , i dont think canada would have suffered from the small boat crisis, but I do think its interesting that left, right, in EU, out of EU, nobody can get a handle on that problem.

And neither party can get a leader who lasts a full term.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Another humorous day. On the one hand, models. On the other, accumulated data.

At NRO, an excerpt from an article at The Telegraph (paywalled). The bit excerpted at NRO makes the amusing point:

"Data from the OECD show that accumulated growth over 2016-25 was: UK (13.2pc), France (11.9pc), Italy (9.2pc), and Germany (8.0pc). An economic historian looking back half a century hence would struggle to detect any Brexit effect in the GDP figures.

The picture is less flattering in per capita terms, but the hard data does not validate claims that the UK economy has seen a cliff-edge fall since leaving the EU, which is a surprise to me given the adjustment shock. The proper question to ask is why the Eurozone keeps failing.

So how does one reach a conclusion that the UK economy is 6-8pc smaller than it would have been without Brexit? With difficulty, heroic cherry-picking, and a model so opaque that almost none of those who quote the findings as an article of faith have any idea how it was constructed."

"But the UK might have done better!". Maybe. But it sure isn't failing.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Another humorous day. On the one hand, models. On the other, accumulated data.

At NRO, an excerpt from an article at The Telegraph (paywalled). The bit excerpted at NRO makes the amusing point:

"Data from the OECD show that accumulated growth over 2016-25 was: UK (13.2pc), France (11.9pc), Italy (9.2pc), and Germany (8.0pc). An economic historian looking back half a century hence would struggle to detect any Brexit effect in the GDP figures.

The picture is less flattering in per capita terms, but the hard data does not validate claims that the UK economy has seen a cliff-edge fall since leaving the EU, which is a surprise to me given the adjustment shock. The proper question to ask is why the Eurozone keeps failing.

So how does one reach a conclusion that the UK economy is 6-8pc smaller than it would have been without Brexit? With difficulty, heroic cherry-picking, and a model so opaque that almost none of those who quote the findings as an article of faith have any idea how it was constructed."

"But the UK might have done better!". Maybe. But it sure isn't failing.

'It's complicated' seems to fit ...

Ten years on, Brexit's economic impact is becoming clearer​

"Among economists there is not much debate, but there still is among policy folks. The experts were right. It was, if anything, worse than we thought, but it's taken longer to get there," says Nick Bloom, a British Stanford University professor and author of one of the most prominent recent major studies using Bank of England data.

Put bluntly, the status quo will not hold. Ten years on, Brexit, and its impacts on the economy, remain very much with us, and the policy debates may be about to return.

Ten years on, Brexit's economic impact is becoming clearer

A decade ago, many economists argued the UK would sustain longer-term economic damage by leaving the EU. So what did happen?

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