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If you read my comments, I don't dispute that. Being a national leader is more than just good excellent international networks.
Leadership: Opposition Poilievre v. PM Carney [Split from The vibe shift, end of "wokeness"?]
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Let’s see.
Carney knows Finland’s President from before when they both worked in international finance.
Carney know France’s Macron from their time working for Goldman Sachs together
Carney’s deputy when at the Bank of England was the guy who is the new economic advisor to the new UK PM.
Carney knows Germany’s Chancellor Merz from when he ran Black Rock’s European division.
PP can be friendly when talking with people but he’s never worked in the business world, either inside or outside of Canada - thus he’s more than likely got no one to contact at these levels.
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More than likely is not most definitely. And who in the CPC caucus knows who? It is a team not one guy. You don't know what you don't know.
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And by that logic, Trump knows almost the whole damn world's list of billionaires, so does that make him an excellent leader with his LARGER network? I don't think so.
Having a large and valuable network is good IF you can effectively use it.
And lets be frank, it was another chance to take a shot at Poilievre. Thats fine, just be clear about it.
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It was not.
It simply the case that one is better connected around the world than other.
Life experiences, in many different settings, in many different places makes a difference.
Am I a completely different person today because I left my home city over 30yrs ago and have lived and worked in 4 other countries besides Canada and have lived in a number of different cities in Ontario vs staying in my home city and working for the same company (like my father did for 42yrs) for the last 30+yrs? 100% yes. I see it and experience it every time I go back ‘home’ to visit my Dad, brother and friends who never left.
PP has done only the job as an MP for his entire career, all within the same city. He doesn’t have the knowledge and experience of what to do in a formal business meeting in Japan, in Finland, in Germany, as one of many many examples. He has nothing comparable to draw upon.
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The world of politics is NOT just business meetings
Defence, crime, justice, energy, internal and external trade, environmental management, health care, etc. A government is WAY more than just business meetings.
Again, what do you know of the CPC team? I suspect you don't know much about his Mps and their experience.
More importantly, can PM MC leverage that international network to Canada's advantage? Thats what matters.
I remember when he said he could handle Trump during the campaign, and so far, thats one glaring failure.
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Our mayor in Grey Highlands, Paul McQueen is an excellent mayor, leader and businessman. And he has lived his whole life here in this rural town. He is in his 50s.
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I know and respect 1 MP - Mike Chong - and would support him if he held in check the religious segment of the current CPC, just like Carney has clamped down hard on the anti-oil side of the Liberal party.
Mike was my MP at on time in the past and we have similar old PC contacts/friends from our youth.
Mike also worked in the business world previously and knows the lay of the land.
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And I wouldn’t expect him to know how to act in a formal business meeting in Asia, Latin America, the Middle East, Africa and parts of Europe.
When he’s in his own depth and environment I’m sure he’s rock solid and someone you’d want in your corner.
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From a conversation I have had with my MP when he was visiting my farm, Mike is very loyal to Pierre. Take that for what it is worth.
Ohhh? Are they pushing religious bills all the time? Hell, the CBC doesn't even bring this up and they are rabidly anti-CBC
Now, you hit the nail on the head. EVERYONE has their strengths and limitations. PM MC has a very international and monetary based experiences to draw from. He speaks well to the bloomberg agencies but has struggled when dealing with MSM on issues not within his comfort zone.
On that note, Pierre is pretty much a better public orator than Mark.
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What would you do if you had a formal business meeting in Finland and you didn't know the etiquette?
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It also includes such details as getting elected as the national leader…
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I'd reach out to my other European business contacts and ask them what should I expect.
- drinking/dinner
- possible out to a sauna (which means co-ed potentially and being naked)
- being 'German' in terms of being on time and not wasting their time
- proper way to address someone for the first time
I learned first hand when working in the old Czech Republic (along with alot of Central Europe in the mid/late 90s), that 'titles' and 'degrees' mean ALOT when being introduced - correctly addressing someone when you meet them for the first time - such as - 'vazeny pane doktore Novak' or 'pane ing Sedlack' - it would be considered extremely rude to meet someone for the first time and say 'pane Novak' - you must address them using their highest title. When they would hand you their business card (no clue if this is still the case 30yrs later), you take the time to actually read it and make small talk about their school, programme, area of interest. Lastly, again 30yrs age, you need to be ready to go out to dinner and drinking after a successful meeting, late night and lots of alcohol.
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With Canada under siege economically right now from the US and our need to diversity/reduce our economy to rely less on the US and be spread more evenly across the world, I think you just invertedly endorsed MC. Having a person with these international contacts and world wide business respect and ability to open those doors is exactly what is needed at this time.
Maybe in 6-8yrs once the table has been successfully set and our economy has been able to pivot away and diversify successfully from the US and the CAF is well on it way to being enlarged, re-equipped, re-stocked and that has been enshrined/locked in place going forward, we can then look at PP to lead the country after the ship has already been righted and steadied.