• Thanks for stopping by. Logging in to a registered account will remove all generic ads. Please reach out with any questions or concerns.

Leopard Exhaust - Psychological Warfare or Not

I've sent a long address to Mr. Wallace to save the disinterested the nightmare of my thought process.  It's a thousand words and available for anyone who wants to read it and/or correct me.

As professional soldiers, we can have a reasonable expectation of engaging armour during combat.  While the myth of the Leopard exhaust can be to our benefit, the properties its sound shares with other armour can cause them to have an effect on us.  The leo's exhaust can be to our detriment if we have an unreal expectation of its effects.  Hence, I consider it important to address this.


ʞɔoɹɯɐɥs said:
Psychological Weapon
This is the argument the sound would trigger a fear response in the brain.  This would make the enemy shit his pants at first exposure and for every exposure -- think of Hermann Grids and the sort; even if you know what's going on, you can't do a goddamn thing about it.  However, a white noise generator would cancel the effect (basically, create a noise that cancels out the leo's sine).  This would also require considerable trials -- I realize the Nazis would have had no qualms in piling a bunch of Jews into a trench and exposing them to a bunch of noises to see which produces the greates fear, but I still giggle at the thought of a bunch of soldiers being given a questionaire and being asked, "Which scares you more?" Vrooooooom!

Even if the Nazi's did that, the similiarities between the 4F responses is so minute that getting the *exact* one would be extremely difficult.  There's no way to guarantee that it would elicit "fight" in friendly and "flight" in enemy as both sides are facing an inevitable battle.  Sure, friendlies could be told that "this sound will terrrify your enemies and render them useless" to strengthen their fight instincts, but enemies could be told "these idiots are armed with speakers" to lessen their flight instincts. 

That's how I can dismiss it as an intended physiopsychological weapon and attribute it more to:

Conditioned Responses to Specific Stimuli
Fairly sure I've beat this one about the head and neck.  It's entirely likely the exhaust was designed around this, but the reality is *every* vehicle on the battlefield is going to have this affect on combatants.  To make it more pronounced and directly attributable to the Leopard (distinguishable), it's highly likely it was given a distinct noise.  This can generalize to every diesel or specify to the Leo at 1200 RPM (and only at 1200 RPM). 

The down side to this is extinction.  Unpaired matchings (leopard sound - effects of battle) will cause the fear response to lessen.  Every time a leopard is heard, be it starting up to charge the batteries to just moving around, and it doesn't engage a conditioned enemy, the fear will lessen.  And since tanks can be heard so far off, the unpaired matchings would be very common. 

Most militaries counter these types of pairings with conditioning of their own.  As I previously mentioned, taste is the easiest thing to condition people to.  Matching the effects of battle with positive stimuli will provoke desirable responses.  Japanese did this with their Kamikaze pilots (big meals and video broadcasts).

I suppose this would classifiy it as a psychological weapon, albeit a pretty flakey one given we want no-one to survive their first encounter with the Leopard, which leads me to my next point.

The Effects of Expectancy on Combat
In the same way the Pipes announced the inevitable approach of combat, so too can the Leo's exhaust.  Properly progandized or rumour milled, this can produce expectancy.  If you expect something to scare the pants off you, it'll scare the pants off you.  However, without really knowing what the leopard sounds like, the enemy would just be afraid of anything they thought was a leopard.  This would not require any particular engineering genius, just a distinct sound.  Imagine the en dreading the approach of a tank that has no echo hearing the Mallard Mk 1's dreaded "Quaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"

But that leads me to my next point...

The Exhaust Manipulating Psychoperception
Given the knowledge of the time (and our present knowledge), this is another highly probably design.  A low-pitched sound is going to travel a considerable distance further than a high-pitched one.  A low-pitched sound will penetrate further than high-pitched.  This means the mean, low-pitched rumble is going to go further and be negatively affected less by terrain.  It's also why it has a high-pitched horns, because that spread is easily defeated by terrain and won't travel as far; this is probably another reason for the selection of turbine engines in "stealthier" tanks.  Since low-pitch travels so well and so far, it's very difficult to locate the sound-generator.  Several of these spread out over 1km is going to make locating and distancing any specific one very difficult -- the stealth George spoke of, possibly in a manner of teaching you how to suck eggs.

However, *every* low-pitched vehicle is going to produce sound with these properties, which is why I think it's important to...

Address and Debunk these Myths
It's not unlikely that we're going to face armour equipped enemies in the future.  Hell, given the way weapons proliferation goes, it's not unlikely we won't face Leopards on the field of battle.  A careful analysis of all the sources can circumvent any undue fears blue forces will face in dealing with armour that stem entirely from personal cognitions. 
 
What it all boils down to, is the fact that the sounds of the Exhaust do have an affect on the mind.  It is psychological.  Semantics as to whether it is a psychological weapon, or whether it's a weapon with psychological effects, really don't matter if the end result is a psychological affect on a soldier.
 
Seems to me this is one of the reasons tank gunnery instructors were so hot for correct terminology - unless you know the exact contextual meaning of words, the words can be worse than useless in professional discussion.

Our differences here are between those of us who believe in the effect but are mislabeling it from a diagnostic point of view, versus one who know the diagnostic definition of the words we use and wishes to inform us that our 'lay' application of those words/phrases is unscientific.
 
I would define any 'tool' that has a psychological affect on an opponent as a psychological weapon, be it a Goalies Mask in Halloween, a screaming Stuka bomber, or the roar of an engines exhaust.  All are 'tools' to create a psychological affect on an adversary.  Does this have the same affect on a person if Freddy isn't wearing the mask and it sits on a table, or the Stuka is in a hangar, or an engine isn't running?  No.  It is when these tools are employed that they show their real nature.
 
George Wallace said:
I would define any 'tool' that has a psychological affect on an opponent as a psychological weapon...

It is from this that I am say that all tanks are psychological weapons regardless of the direction they drive.  With the possible exception of eliciting a psychophysiological response to their specific sounds, all AFV will produce similar psychological effects before, during, and after first exposure.  These effects will vary from individual to individual and from force to force.

It's also why I continue to prattle on in the face of common sense.  As I said, we have a reasonable expectation to face en armour and so we can reasonably expect to feel these same effects.

Naturally, cognition won't do a thing to reduce fear.  With enough knowledge, however, we can protect ourselves from useless biases and expectations.

Note: if you or someone you know is about to be on the receiving end of Canadian Armour, you should be made aware that we know all this crap and do have the technology to elicit fear responses through sound; this technology is being retrofitted into in-theatre Leopards and will be coming to a grape hut near you!
 
ʞɔoɹɯɐɥs said:
It is from this that I am say that all tanks are psychological weapons regardless of the direction they drive. 

That is a fact.  One that is often overlooked, or ignored, by most of the populace.
 
I don't know whether it was designed in or not,but the sound
of a troop of Bundeswehr Leo.2s.coming over the hill to the
firing point at the last Canada Cup shoot in Graf.,sure impressed
me, especially as Wagner`s Ride of the Valkyries was playing full
blast on the stereo system, setup for the event.
The whine of the Centurion`s final drives used to scare the hell
out of me,in the Wainright bush, as although you could hear them
it was almost impossible to pinpoint their position.I am sure this was
not designed into them however.
                                         Regards
 
I often wondered how far I would have got mounting speakers on the side of my turret and playing music a la Oddball in Kelly's Heroes.
 
Lieutenant Colonel Bill Kilgore to the rescue. 
I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory. Someday this war's gonna end...
 
I am not qualified Leo D+M, but I have heard many different MBT engines, my understanding is that the different "whines" in more modern type tanks (M1's, Etc..) is due to the turbine engines, as opposed to the Leo C2 diesel engine!
When I was Recce (like others in WX) I hated sitting there at night in a mud op, esp when bumbling B Sqn would come any where near us, kinda gives you the willies.
 
George Wallace said:
I often wondered how far I would have got mounting speakers on the side of my turret and playing music a la Oddball in Kelly's Heroes.

- "All For The Love Of Sunshine':

ALL FOR THE LOVE OF SUNSHINE
(Mike Curb / Lalo Schifrin)
From the soundtrack of "Kelly's Heroes".
Hank Williams Jr. (was his first Billboard number one hit. 1970, the year "Kelly's Heroes" was made).

The darkness of my world was all cleared away
The flowers are blooming it's a beautiful day
There's a girl with a heart as big as the sky she's sunshine and I know why
All for the love of sunshine all for the love of sunshine
The Lord smiled down on this life of mine and sent me the love of sunshine

Though sunshine can always make my days seem bright
Sunshine can warm up a cold cold night
I know my sunshine was sent from above an angel that's filled with love
All for the love of sunshine...

Through winter the springtime the summer and fall
The moonlight the starlight she outshines them all
In a world filled with fear with pain and such harm my sunshine can't be so warm
All for the love of sunshine...
All for the love of sunshine...
All for the love of sunshine...
 
When I was a Despatch Rider in the late 70's I was sent to the RCD's and their magnificent Leopards.
At night.
I rode in when they were shut down and the nice folks in the CP offered me a coffee and a bite to eat when I delivered the message.  I left as the Sqn was moving out.  The sound was all enveloping, (someone said surround sound earlier, fitting terminology) in the dark they were invisible to me and I was sure feeling invisible to them.  I can still vividly remember feeling very, very small with the sensation of being in a very bad place.
With visions of becoming sprocket jam racing through my head I was very happy to leave them behind despite them being gracious hosts to a dirty and hungry Gunner.

Yeah, I'll say that sound has an effect.
 
A long time ago in a Germany far, far away...

I was a sentry at the corner of our harbour.  The harbour came under attack from a passing company of M60A1s.  You could hear tanks - but apparently not all of them.  I was sitting with my back against a large tree, eating a B3 unit, my FN C1A1 at my side, my dummy M72 about a foot in front of my extended legs.

Suddenly, all I saw was idler/roadwheels/drivesprocket/gone.  An M60A1 had cut the corner of the woods.  I heard it not (because of all of the other tanks passing fifty meters to my front) and they saw me not, but they left tracks at 20 MPH a foot from my M72 - three feet from my extended legs.

Twenty years later, when briefing visiting Foreign Military Attaches and VIPs, I started with a safety briefing on how to stay alive around moving tanks.  My opening statement was:

"You will never hear the tank that runs you over.  You will hear all of the others - but not the one that kills you."
 
Scariest sound leopard 1. That rumble could be felt... :o
Oddest Chieftain whiny as hell.
 
Back
Top