Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Jarnhamar]

... so she was wrong to say "... have been going down since ..." I'll leave it to the philosophers & others smarter than me to decide if she was lying or not.

Yeah. Maybe she's not lying per say and just doesn't know how to use Google.

I feel like paying someone a salary of $299,900 per year should afford us a little more accuracy on stuff like this.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Yeah. Maybe she's not lying per say and just doesn't know how to use Google.

I feel like paying someone a salary of $299,900 per year should afford us a little more accuracy on stuff like this.

That’s politics

 

[Jarnhamar]

That’s politics

Yup.

New PM, same party.


A part of be hopes Carney being a big cheese banker wouldn't put up with his staff bullshitting numbers and try to clean the party up.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Yup.

New PM, same party.


A part of be hopes Carney being a big cheese banker wouldn't put up with his staff bullshitting numbers and try to clean the party up.

You'll find that even if it was a different party, it would be different bits that would be glossed over Don't matter the team jersey.

 

[MilEME09]

Is Alberta responsible for the minister of the Federal Economic Development Agency for Northern Ontario lying about the poverty rate in Canada dropping "since 2015"?

as pointed out above that wasnt a lie according to statistics

@MilEME09 The federal government sets the pace for the nation.
On housing and homelessness, and home affordability (everything connects together)
-You can't bring in 1.5 million people a year (temp or not) and only build 200-300,000 new homes plus young Canadians that are aging up (early 20s). The math doesn't work
-You can't have the government spend money out of the atmosphere and demand the BoC "print" new money, which means interest rates go UP for everyone (regardless of your credit rating) to pay for the new money, again the math doesn't work. Try getting a house when mortgage rates are through the roof, even if you do have a chunk of money saved up. Thats the feds to blame for their portions
-Housing and homelessness is also compounded by overall cost of living. Nothing is separated in silos in this economy. No jobs, investing in failing industries (like EV and so called renewable energy), not tapping into proven natural resource sectors and many other factors ALL contribute to the average Canadian earning so little, even with training and/or education.

I wish you would stop excusing the Liberals from their incompetence. You got blinders on. Hell, even I can see some hope in Mark Carney (I like him way more than Trudeau) but I want to see him drop dead weight. Also, if housing is totally not part of the fed governments arcs of fire, why do they have so much involved in attempting to fund it and regulate it? No cop outs. Facts not fiction.

Your beloved Liberals are still failing. If Mark doesn't get a handle on this in the next year or two, he will get slaughtered at the next election, which will come sooner. The Liberals won't have a "Trump" card to pull out again.

The provinces, including AB and Ontario were asking for more immigration because of labour shortages as late as May 2024, then immigration became bad and they changed their tune. Housing starts has more to do with municipal and provincial governments then the feds, its cities that issue permits and have the red tape, It's also builders and developers setting the pace to keep prices high. I live in a new development and the pace homes are being built is incredibly slow even with everything approved and thats deliberate.

According to the Bank of Canada, the amount of money in circulation has only increase 2.2%, this is hardly printing money uncontrolled, just ask Venezuela how printing money uncontrolled goes.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bank-canada-twitter-printing-money-1.6568466

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EV and renewable energy is hardly a failing industry with an expected 639,000 Canadians to be employed in those industries by 2030, a 50% increase over 2020. What makes it faltering is governments with an agenda like Smith scrapping 34 billion in renewable energy investment that cost AB thousands of jobs. Inflation here is higher than the national average, youth unemployment is the highest in the country, and the normal unemployment rate is one of the highest at a time when oil production and profits are at an all time high. This is mismanagement of our entire provincial economy. O&G has been prioritized at the cost of everything else.

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Canada ranks in the global top 10 for Clean Energy Technology and Infrastructure, with a 19% investment increase in 2024.

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You state I have blinders on, I support PMMC because the alternative his a hot pile a dog poop, and the conservative leadership of my province has done more in the past 4 years to destroy this province and increase my cost of living then the federal government ever has. It wasn't the federal liberals who over charged me on electricity or increase my insurance rates, those were provincial policies.

Why is the feds involved in housing? same reason health care transfers exist, the provinces shit the bed on solving the problem then came screaming to the feds to give "national leadership" on the issue because they don't want to take responsibility for it. The National housing strategy was launched in 2017, only two years after the liberals took over, at a time when the average people using shelters was 129,000. This was a provincial failure that required a national response.

 

[Jarnhamar]

as pointed out above that wasnt a lie according to statistics

Where do you see that?

Poverty in Canada hasn't "been dropping since 2015".

It dropped from 2015 to 2020. It's been steadily increasing since 2021 and we're at an all time high for food bank usage.

Your girl with the snappy comeback either lied on purpose or is just incompetent.

 

[YZT580]

Canadians lack financial literacy, confidence in managing money: survey | Investment Executive

Including the next generation in family discussions can help advisors build trust and retain clients

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Definitely in the realm of the provincial education systems.

Well, yes and no. Who was the leader who kept apologizing and taking the knee at every opportunity? What has that to do with literacy. Economics wasn't important to him: the budget will balance itself. When you spend your time ensuring that the drug supply is cheap and available something is going to suffer. Our governments have spent the last several decades decimating our education system in the name of equal opportunity and wokism. Kids can't fail so they don't learn. They can't even spell. Have you looked at some of the signs they carry during their protests. They even get 4 letter words wrong Yes the provinces are responsible but the feds aren't off the hook. they set the standard

 

[Remius]

Well, yes and no. Who was the leader who kept apologizing and taking the knee at every opportunity? What has that to do with literacy. Economics wasn't important to him: the budget will balance itself. When you spend your time ensuring that the drug supply is cheap and available something is going to suffer. Our governments have spent the last several decades decimating our education system in the name of equal opportunity and wokism. Kids can't fail so they don't learn. They can't even spell. Have you looked at some of the signs they carry during their protests. They even get 4 letter words wrong Yes the provinces are responsible but the feds aren't off the hook. they set the standard

Dude. Education is provincial jurisdiction. I get it. JT etc bad. Stop fighting the last election. your culture war goggles are blinding you a bit with a serving of grievances.

As part of a full approach to fighting poverty, financial literacy should be prioritized in school. Not cut or brushed aside for things like calculus and algebra that is meant for only a few types.

That is where provinces and school boards can make an impact and it is absolutely in their jurisdiction. Financial illiteracy pre dates JT and it’s still a problem.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Remind me again who's actually responsible for those things? Oh right not the PM and feds, its provincial. Provincial policies affect things like homelessness, and job rates much more then the feds. Like Alberta having one of the highest unemployment rates, and highest youth unemployment rate in the country. Some of the highest electricity rates that studies have shown we have over paid for by billions, one of the highest insurance rates in the country, and a minimum wage that hasn't changed in 7 years.

Blaming the feds is the easy button, the actual answer is much more complicated
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The number one thing effecting homelessness, job rates, health care and housing is immigration. That is a federal responsibility.

Just saying it’s a provincial fault when it was the federal government who broke the long standing immigration targets by a long shot is very ignorant. Basically we have always had crappy systems which barely function when things were normal. Once we went well past normal our systems cannot keep up and they start failing.

 

[Kirkhill]

This Government is the most devious and dishonest in Britain’s history

Starmer was elected on a platform of personal rectitude, but his only firm policy is selling Britain out

www.telegraph.co.uk

I thought this Government of Gaslighters had reached its apogee of untruth with Darren Jones’s suggestion that most of the illegal migrants crossing the Channel were “women, children and babies”.

When it was pointed out to the Chief Secretary to the Treasury that the Home Office’s own figures showed the crossings since January 2025 comprised 81 per cent adult men, he later conceded he “could have been clearer”.

This week, Leader of the Commons Lucy Powell told the chamber, with a straight face: “We never ruled out returning to the issue of a national inquiry [on grooming gangs].” Yes, that’s the same Lucy Powell who accused Tim Montgomerie, the founder of the ConservativeHome website, of peddling “dog whistle” politics on Radio 4’s Any Questions, merely for asking whether she had seen a recent Channel 4 documentary on the scandal. “Oh, we want to blow that little trumpet now do we”, she sneered. “Let’s get that dog whistle out shall we”.

Powell’s fib came after Home Secretary Yvette Cooper performed a politically expedient u-turn and announced there would, in fact, be a judge-led national inquiry into the rape gangs scandal – having spent the previous year saying we didn’t need one.

I’ve checked the Labour Party Manifesto 2024 (preferable to sleeping pills if you’re struggling to bed down in this heat), and there is no mention in there of either assisted dying or changing the abortion laws.

Yet both have been ramraided through Parliament without the public even being consulted. So much for Starmer’s pledge, on the steps of Downing Street almost a year ago, that: “My government will serve you.”

When he promised a “return of politics to public service,” I don’t think anyone thought it would mean bunging his union buddies huge payrises while the private sector, which employs 83 per cent of the total workforce, is shafted by Rachel Reeves’s Budget.

That was the biggest deceit of them all, that Labour wouldn’t tax “working people”. In fact, the £25 billion increase to employers’ National Insurance contributions has done exactly that.

Similarly, we are all supposed to believe that she reversed the cuts to the winter fuel allowance because “the economy is doing better”, even though we learnt this week that the UK has suffered the second highest fall in wealth of any major economy. Growth is down, retail sales are down, hirings are down – and despite what they say, it’s all of Labour’s making.

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Economy with the truth seems to be endemic.

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[MilEME09]

The number one thing effecting homelessness, job rates, health care and housing is immigration. That is a federal responsibility.

Just saying it’s a provincial fault when it was the federal government who broke the long standing immigration targets by a long shot is very ignorant. Basically we have always had crappy systems which barely function when things were normal. Once we went well past normal our systems cannot keep up and they start failing.

Both sides have equal blame, when the provinces kept begging for higher targets, the feds should of also pumped the breaks the moment the provinces couldn't keep up with it. It is still one piece of a larger puzzle, that is a break down of inter governmental relations

Homelessness has a multitude of complex factors and slapping an immigrants are taking our homes on it isn't honest. Majority of the homeless population is males between 18-39, many are working poor. Wage growth is far lagging behind when in AB for example the median income needed to survive is about $24 an hour. What's AB's problem? well this graph helps a bit to explain that having all our eggs in one basket isn't helping, and no amount of pipelines will fix it either

 

[MilEME09]

House of Commons passes Liberals’ major projects legislation

Most MPs have voted in favour of the second part of the Liberals’ one Canadian economy act, which grants the government sweeping powers to approve major projects that are deemed to be in the national interest.

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it's passed, now to see what projects the government sees as major

 

[Kirkhill]

Which indigenous team? I sense multiple teams in tbe offing.

Further to...

https://irccanada.ca//#

IOGC Co Management Board – Indian Resource Council-Canada

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IRC Board of Directors – Indian Resource Council-Canada

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Alberta Indigenous Opportunities Corporation - Alberta Indigenous Opportunities Corporation

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[Kirkhill]

Remind me again who's actually responsible for those things? Oh right not the PM and feds, its provincial. Provincial policies affect things like homelessness, and job rates much more then the feds. Like Alberta having one of the highest unemployment rates, and highest youth unemployment rate in the country. Some of the highest electricity rates that studies have shown we have over paid for by billions, one of the highest insurance rates in the country, and a minimum wage that hasn't changed in 7 years.

Blaming the feds is the easy button, the actual answer is much more complicated
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All true until the Federal Government interacts directly with the municipal governments in contravention of the Constitution Act 1867, Section 82(8).

Subjects of exclusive Provincial Legislation

92 In each Province the Legislature may exclusively make Laws in relation to Matters coming within the Classes of Subjects next hereinafter enumerated; that is to say,

• 1.
  Repealed.End note(48)
• 2.
  Direct Taxation within the Province in order to the raising of a Revenue for Provincial Purposes.
• 3.
  The borrowing of Money on the sole Credit of the Province.
• 4.
  The Establishment and Tenure of Provincial Offices and the Appointment and Payment of Provincial Officers.
• 5.
  The Management and Sale of the Public Lands belonging to the Province and of the Timber and Wood thereon.
• 6.
  The Establishment, Maintenance, and Management of Public and Reformatory Prisons in and for the Province.
• 7.
  The Establishment, Maintenance, and Management of Hospitals, Asylums, Charities, and Eleemosynary Institutions in and for the Province, other than Marine Hospitals.
• 8.
  Municipal Institutions in the Province.
• 9.
  Shop, Saloon, Tavern, Auctioneer, and other Licences in order to the raising of a Revenue for Provincial, Local, or Municipal Purposes.
• 10.
  Local Works and Undertakings other than such as are of the following Classes:
  • (a)
    Lines of Steam or other Ships, Railways, Canals, Telegraphs, and other Works and Undertakings connecting the Province with any other or others of the Provinces, or extending beyond the Limits of the Province:
  • (b)
    Lines of Steam Ships between the Province and any British or Foreign Country:
  • (c)
    Such Works as, although wholly situate within the Province, are before or after their Execution declared by the Parliament of Canada to be for the general Advantage of Canada or for the Advantage of Two or more of the Provinces.
• 11.
  The Incorporation of Companies with Provincial Objects.
• 12.
  The Solemnization of Marriage in the Province.
• 13.
  Property and Civil Rights in the Province.
• 14.
  The Administration of Justice in the Province, including the Constitution, Maintenance, and Organization of Provincial Courts, both of Civil and of Criminal Jurisdiction, and including Procedure in Civil Matters in those Courts.
• 15.
  The Imposition of Punishment by Fine, Penalty, or Imprisonment for enforcing any Law of the Province made in relation to any Matter coming within any of the Classes of Subjects enumerated in this Section.
• 16.
  Generally all Matters of a merely local or private Nature in the Province.

Item 13 is interesting as well.

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Subsidiarity can be exploited to sideline the middle. The Canadian Constitution would seem to be designed to ensure the maintenance of the power of the Provinces. The Feds should not be offering money directly to municipalities. To individuals perhaps, but not to municipal corporations.

 

[YZT580]

Dude. Education is provincial jurisdiction. I get it. JT etc bad. Stop fighting the last election. your culture war goggles are blinding you a bit with a serving of grievances.

As part of a full approach to fighting poverty, financial literacy should be prioritized in school. Not cut or brushed aside for things like calculus and algebra that is meant for only a few types.

That is where provinces and school boards can make an impact and it is absolutely in their jurisdiction. Financial illiteracy pre dates JT and it’s still a problem.

sorry friend but I am not thinking about the election. Your comments are appreciated for the truths they contain. But all of it goes back to the attitudes presented by those in authority with regards to children/students. They are products of what they are taught and they have been taught diddly squat over the last several years or even decades. If the feds had made a stand with regards to literacy and the need for standards regardless of race or assumed racial inequality then the provinces would have had little choice but to fall in line. But the feds didn't. they condoned or even encouraged civil disruption at the expense of education. They made it impossible for a teacher to suspend a student because it showed the teacher was a bigot. Now you can argue that this was a provincial problem and I will agree with you but the ultimate responsibility lies with the leadership shown from OW in the same manner that Jennie Carrigan is responsible for my opinion of the CAF. Leadership comes with responsibilities.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Date, place (January, Calgary) set for the Team Blue convention/leadership review ...

Conservatives set January dates for convention, review of Poilievre's leadership

OTTAWA - Members of the Conservative party will hold a national convention in late January, where they'll vote on Pierre Poilievre's leadership.

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

... so this prediction didn't age well (also archived here)

To limit critics' time to organize against Poilievre, some senior Conservatives explore moving convention to this fall

If Pierre Poilievre wants to lead the party in the next election, he should resign and seek a fresh mandate through a new leadership race, says former Calgary Conservative MP Devinder Shory.

www.hilltimes.com

 

[The Bread Guy]

Both sides have equal blame, when the provinces kept begging for higher targets, the feds should of also pumped the breaks the moment the provinces couldn't keep up with it ...

That right there.

Further to...

https://irccanada.ca//#

IOGC Co Management Board – Indian Resource Council-Canada

irccanada.ca

IRC Board of Directors – Indian Resource Council-Canada

irccanada.ca

Alberta Indigenous Opportunities Corporation - Alberta Indigenous Opportunities Corporation

Alberta Indigenous Opportunities Corporation (AIOC) exists to help Indigenous Nations and groups across our province [...]

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Which covers almost exclusively AB First Nations* with petroleum resources, so we'll see if all the other communities are OK with a pipeline in that part of the world

* - Except for the one Ontario FN Chief on the board whose community is dealing with capping old oil wells on Manitoulin Island.

 

[Remius]

Date, place (January, Calgary) set for the Team Blue convention/leadership review ...

Conservatives set January dates for convention, review of Poilievre's leadership

OTTAWA - Members of the Conservative party will hold a national convention in late January, where they'll vote on Pierre Poilievre's leadership.

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

... so this prediction didn't age well (also archived here)

To limit critics' time to organize against Poilievre, some senior Conservatives explore moving convention to this fall

If Pierre Poilievre wants to lead the party in the next election, he should resign and seek a fresh mandate through a new leadership race, says former Calgary Conservative MP Devinder Shory.

www.hilltimes.com

Holding the review in person in Calgary in Jan. That should keep the discontented CPC types from Ontario, Quebec and the Atlantic away. He should be relatively safe.

 

[Kirkhill]

That right there.

Which covers almost exclusively AB First Nations* with petroleum resources, so we'll see if all the other communities are OK with a pipeline in that part of the world

* - Except for the one Ontario FN Chief on the board whose community is dealing with capping old oil wells on Manitoulin Island.

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Province of Manitoba | News Releases | Manitoba Government Advances Support for Indigenous-Owned Interprovincial Trade Corridor

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Some Manitoban nations as well. They also seem to associate with the Haisla at Kitimat.

Saskatchewan

About | SIIFC - Saskatchewan Indigenous Investment Finance Corporation

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BC
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/eagle-spirit-neb-request-1.5204739 - 35 nations Lax Kw'alaams led
Natural gas pipeline ownership spreads across 36 First Nations in B.C. - 36 nations

Indigenous communities await Trans Mountain pipeline share -

Ottawa's Commitment to 30 percent Indigenous Stake in Trans Mountain Pipeline Still Awaiting Confirmation.

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Environmental Stewardship Through an Indigenous Lens - WIPG

The Western Indigenous Pipeline Group (WIPG) is a wholly owned Indigenous company led by Chiefs and community leaders, which represents the communities impacted by Trans Mountain Pipeline and Expansion (TMX) (collectively, Trans Mountain) in B.C. and Alberta.

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Cedar LNG – Cedar LNG - Haisla/Pembina
TC Energy — Prince Rupert Gas Transmission Project Nisga'a


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In the last 10 years there has been a considerable shift. One report I saw suggested there are 430 nations that are benefiting or could benefit from hydrocarbon development. And there is provincial and federal government funding to help them engage.






So there seem to be interested nations all along both routes.

 

[YZT580]

Churchill won't be very happy but it isn't the first time that they have proposed development for Port Nelson.