Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[HavokFour]

Varcoe: Carney says it's 'highly likely' an oil pipeline will make Ottawa's major project list

Varcoe: Prime Minister Mark Carney says it's 'highly likely' an oil pipeline will make Ottawa's list of nationally important projects.

calgaryherald.com

 

[lenaitch]

faked ULC or CSA stamps

And Amazon is full of this electrical stuff, or products that don't even bother to try and fake it. It is a legitimate question how Amazon et al can get away with selling uncertified devices when a bricks-and-mortar store cannot.

Anybody remember propane cars? You will still see signs prohibiting them from underground parking.

Because it is heavier than air. I remember. It's heyday as a vehicle fuel didn't last long except in fleet use, mostly trucks. My police service tried a few converted cruisers. Not only did they handle like pigs (no pun intended) because of the weight of the tanks, everybody was afraid of getting rear-ended.

EVs are facing their own restrictions, no doubt driven by insurance companies, including tow company impound/storage facilities.

 

[Navy_Pete]

And Amazon is full of this electrical stuff, or products that don't even bother to try and fake it. It is a legitimate question how Amazon et al can get away with selling uncertified devices when a bricks-and-mortar store cannot.


Because it is heavier than air. I remember. It's heyday as a vehicle fuel didn't last long except in fleet use, mostly trucks. My police service tried a few converted cruisers. Not only did they handle like pigs (no pun intended) because of the weight of the tanks, everybody was afraid of getting rear-ended.

EVs are facing their own restrictions, no doubt driven by insurance companies, including tow company impound/storage facilities.

Trying to do some EV car battery fire testing, and what's wild is that I can get a wrecked EV car with battery towed as a normal car, but if I take the battery out it has to get shipped as dangerous goods.

I think it was in some of the major flooding in Florida or similar where they had sea surges and a lot of cars got flooded out where there were delayed fires from significant corrosion on the battery packs. Some of it was on resales too, which is really greasy.

 

[brihard]

Trying to do some EV car battery fire testing, and what's wild is that I can get a wrecked EV car with battery towed as a normal car, but if I take the battery out it has to get shipped as dangerous goods.

Throwing out a guess, might it be because of the protection the rest of the car provides for the battery from impact damage?

 

[Navy_Pete]

Throwing out a guess, might it be because of the protection the rest of the car provides for the battery from impact damage?

Could be, but if that were the case then you think the shipping rules for a damaged car would change, and you wouldn't just be able to put it on a flatbed. I guess you would run into the same thing if you took a car tank full of gasoline and tried to ship that, so who knows? Probably some rules on the books about being part of an approved assembly vs being a standalone component.

Either way, when we finally get the funding, set some things up and giver, it's going to be fairly dramatic, but better to field test out some suppression options in a controlled way and have some guidelines then let everyone figure out something different on their own. Lot of snake oil around LiB fire suppression, so hard to figure out what is legitimate. Generally figure as soon as someone talks about putting out an EV fire, vice suppressing it, it's BS, but someone may eventually crack that one.

 

[IKnowNothing]

Could be, but if that were the case then you think the shipping rules for a damaged car would change, and you wouldn't just be able to put it on a flatbed.

Just a guess- but I'd say the difference in shipping method fundamentally changes the risk profile. Battery in open air on a flatbed- if something goes wrong you're looking at a highway side fire on piece of equipment- hit the shoulder, let 'r burn, hauling company submits an insurance claim. A battery shipped by a courier- enclosed space surrounded by N amount of 3rd party parcels (increased risk financially + more combustibles causing the harm to spread), potentially transiting by plane, almost certainly spending time in a receiving/fulfilment centre. If something goes wrong at the wrong time you're looking at a loss measured in the millions to 10's of millions

 

[Czech_pivo]

Ontario/Alberta to announce something big this morning?

Ontario and Alberta sign agreements to study new pipeline, railway projects | Globalnews.ca

The premiers of Alberta and Ontario will meet in Calgary today to sign two new memorandums of understanding.

globalnews.ca

Danielle Smith and Doug Ford to sign agreements on ‘transformative’ projects​

Ontario Premier Doug Ford is set to announce a “transformative“ public infrastructure project that could help export Alberta energy and Ontario’s critical minerals to new markets using pipelines, rail lines, and ports.
While the government has been tight-lipped on the announcement, an Ontario government source said the focus of the announcement will rest on getting “Western Canadian oil and gas and Ontario’s critical minerals to new markets.”

In an internal government-wide memo, Ford’s Chief of Staff teased the announcement as one to watch.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Just a guess- but I'd say the difference in shipping method fundamentally changes the risk profile. Battery in open air on a flatbed- if something goes wrong you're looking at a highway side fire on piece of equipment- hit the shoulder, let 'r burn, hauling company submits an insurance claim. A battery shipped by a courier- enclosed space surrounded by N amount of 3rd party parcels (increased risk financially + more combustibles causing the harm to spread), potentially transiting by plane, almost certainly spending time in a receiving/fulfilment centre. If something goes wrong at the wrong time you're looking at a loss measured in the millions to 10's of millions

Sure, but you can put the same EV with 100s of other EVs on a large ferry with no particular rules in place, so I think it's just the rules lagging behind.

Similarly there is nothing really to differentiate storing a single battery or a warehouse full of LiBs, so when you get something like the large warehouse fire in Montreal that burned for most of a day with no way to control it and large plumes of toxic smoke over the neighbourhood, bit different compared to better understood risks from previous incidents with other types of stuff routinely stored in large quantities together.

Guessing it's one of those things where the rules lag, but have heard rumbling IMO is talking about changing some requirements for ferries to better contain things if something does happen. The big difference is there is no way to extinguish a fire, so an hour or two fire rating doesn't last long enough. You can use active systems for containment, but those cause stability problems so not like a building where you can just hit it with water.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Ontario/Alberta to announce something big this morning?

Ontario and Alberta sign agreements to study new pipeline, railway projects | Globalnews.ca

The premiers of Alberta and Ontario will meet in Calgary today to sign two new memorandums of understanding.

globalnews.ca

Danielle Smith and Doug Ford to sign agreements on ‘transformative’ projects​

Ontario Premier Doug Ford is set to announce a “transformative“ public infrastructure project that could help export Alberta energy and Ontario’s critical minerals to new markets using pipelines, rail lines, and ports.
While the government has been tight-lipped on the announcement, an Ontario government source said the focus of the announcement will rest on getting “Western Canadian oil and gas and Ontario’s critical minerals to new markets.”

In an internal government-wide memo, Ford’s Chief of Staff teased the announcement as one to watch.

An Ontario based LNG terminal, perhaps?

North Shore LNG Terminal

North Shore LNG Terminal is a proposed LNG project in Canada, which includes a collection of five regasification terminals.

www.gem.wiki

 

[Czech_pivo]

An Ontario based LNG terminal, perhaps?

North Shore LNG Terminal

North Shore LNG Terminal is a proposed LNG project in Canada, which includes a collection of five regasification terminals.

www.gem.wiki

Could be!

I remember reading something about 10 days ago about LNG tankers heading into Thunder Bay and then exiting the St Lawrence and off to either Saint John's or Europe.

Would be pretty interesting. I believe that the season should be able to run from April to possible early/mid November, roughly 7.5 months.

 

[lenaitch]

An Ontario based LNG terminal, perhaps?

North Shore LNG Terminal

North Shore LNG Terminal is a proposed LNG project in Canada, which includes a collection of five regasification terminals.

www.gem.wiki

That's different. That proposal has been around for a while to liquify existing NG then transport it by truck to re-gasification plants at communities along the north shore of Superior where it can be pumped into local pipe networks. I'm not sure how that would involve Alberta or be 'transformative'; it would be tapping into existing NG supply and support relatively small communities.

A Great Lakes LNG terminal would be limited to Seawaymax vessels.

 

[YZT580]

Could be!

I remember reading something about 10 days ago about LNG tankers heading into Thunder Bay and then exiting the St Lawrence and off to either Saint John's or Europe.

Would be pretty interesting. I believe that the season should be able to run from April to possible early/mid November, roughly 7.5 months.

The canal is open from March to January 1 normally so there is lots of season but how many 740 ft. lng carriers or shorter are actually in existence and how many would you need to maintain an annual supply?

 

[Czech_pivo]

The canal is open from March to January 1 normally so there is lots of season but how many 740 ft. lng carriers or shorter are actually in existence and how many would you need to maintain an annual supply?

Valid questions!

 

[HavokFour]

Carney government's nation-building projects list expected to draw from these five areas, says source

Ottawa aims to supercharge economic growth and mitigate U.S. tariff damage by streamlining federal approvals for major projects. Read on

financialpost.com

The 5 areas, summarized from the article:

• Western and Arctic Corridor - Building a new major route to connect the west to an Arctic port, making it easier to ship our resources like oil, minerals, and farm goods to more countries.
• Eastern Energy Partnership - Linking up the East Coast's power grids and building new energy sources like offshore wind, with the goal of powering the region and selling any extra electricity.
• Critical Minerals Pathways - Focusing on mining and processing the minerals needed for modern tech like batteries and electronics, especially in areas like Ontario's Ring of Fire.
• The Next Stage of Nuclear - Investing more in nuclear power by building new, smaller types of reactors and upgrading the older ones to generate more clean energy for the country.
• Export Diversification Infrastructure - General category for building the things we need like ports and transportation to sell Canadian products to a wider variety of countries instead of relying on just a few (namely the US).

 

[HavokFour]

An Ontario based LNG terminal, perhaps?

North Shore LNG Terminal

North Shore LNG Terminal is a proposed LNG project in Canada, which includes a collection of five regasification terminals.

www.gem.wiki

Could be!

I remember reading something about 10 days ago about LNG tankers heading into Thunder Bay and then exiting the St Lawrence and off to either Saint John's or Europe.

Would be pretty interesting. I believe that the season should be able to run from April to possible early/mid November, roughly 7.5 months.

Ontario and Alberta sign agreements to study new pipeline, railway projects | Globalnews.ca

The premiers of Alberta and Ontario will meet in Calgary today to sign two new memorandums of understanding.

globalnews.ca

Half correct, pipes and trains.

 

[lenaitch]

Ontario and Alberta sign agreements to study new pipeline, railway projects | Globalnews.ca

The premiers of Alberta and Ontario will meet in Calgary today to sign two new memorandums of understanding.

globalnews.ca

Half correct, pipes and trains.

I wasn't aware that Ontario had a "planned" James Bay LNG terminal. I know it's been mused about. I have a fairly senior contact with Ontario Northland Railway and they know nothing about it. I maintain the shallow approaches at the bottom end of James Bay make it impractical for a deep sea port, but we shall see. It could be two Conservative premiers teaming up to snub an NDP one who actually does have a port on the Bay.

As for rail to the Ring of Fire, it was rejected by the proponents fairly early on (I forget who it was at the time; Cliffs Cleveland maybe). The cost/ton were lower that a road but the upfront development costs were something like 3x higher. None of the Ontario government releases have ever mentioned rail.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Just going to drop this here.....I'm certain it will invoke some robust discussions...

Cabinet ministers told to find ‘ambitious’ savings by end of summer​

Specifically, ministers must find ways to reduce program spending by 7.5 per cent in the fiscal year that begins April 1, 2026, followed by 10 per cent in savings the next year and 15 per cent in the 2028-29 fiscal year.

Cabinet ministers told to find ‘ambitious’ savings by end of summer

 

[YZT580]

I wasn't aware that Ontario had a "planned" James Bay LNG terminal. I know it's been mused about. I have a fairly senior contact with Ontario Northland Railway and they know nothing about it. I maintain the shallow approaches at the bottom end of James Bay make it impractical for a deep sea port, but we shall see. It could be two Conservative premiers teaming up to snub an NDP one who actually does have a port on the Bay.

As for rail to the Ring of Fire, it was rejected by the proponents fairly early on (I forget who it was at the time; Cliffs Cleveland maybe). The cost/ton were lower that a road but the upfront development costs were something like 3x higher. None of the Ontario government releases have ever mentioned rail.

Sounds more as if Ford is trying to catch the gravy train rather than a realistic solution. Attawapiskat is the closest any ship with a decent draft can approach Moosonee so it would mean dredging from there south (and then redoing it every year) or extending the rail line north. Pipeline distance from Alberta would be the same but it wouldn't feed southern Ontario.

 

[HavokFour]

Just going to drop this here.....I'm certain it will invoke some robust discussions...

Cabinet ministers told to find ‘ambitious’ savings by end of summer​

Specifically, ministers must find ways to reduce program spending by 7.5 per cent in the fiscal year that begins April 1, 2026, followed by 10 per cent in savings the next year and 15 per cent in the 2028-29 fiscal year.

Cabinet ministers told to find ‘ambitious’ savings by end of summer

I know of 1 particular, extremely underperforming program that could save us a cool $2B.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Just going to drop this here.....I'm certain it will invoke some robust discussions...

Cabinet ministers told to find ‘ambitious’ savings by end of summer​

Specifically, ministers must find ways to reduce program spending by 7.5 per cent in the fiscal year that begins April 1, 2026, followed by 10 per cent in savings the next year and 15 per cent in the 2028-29 fiscal year.

Cabinet ministers told to find ‘ambitious’ savings by end of summer

Well, they could just keep this trend going for awhile...

Federal public service shrinks for 1st time in a decade​

Nearly 10,000 jobs shed over the last year, including more than 6,000 at Canada Revenue Agency.

The federal public service has shrunk for the first time since 2015, after shedding nearly 10,000 jobs over the last year, according to new data released by the Treasury Board Secretariat (new window) (TBS).

Of the 9,807 jobs cut between 2024 and 2025, a significant majority — 7,051, or 72 per cent — were in federal agencies such as Parks Canada, the National Capital Commission and the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA). The rest — 2,756 or 28 per cent — were in the core public administration.

The federal public service has shrunk for the first time since 2015, after shedding nearly 10,000 jobs over the last year, according to new data released by the Treasury Board Secretariat (new window) (TBS).

Of the 9,807 jobs cut between 2024 and 2025, a significant majority — 7,051, or 72 per cent — were in federal agencies such as Parks Canada, the National Capital Commission and the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA). The rest — 2,756 or 28 per cent — were in the core public administration.

CRA has announced rounds of layoffs over the last year, with more coming just this week (new window).

Federal public service shrinks for 1st time in a decade | RCI

Nearly 10,000 jobs shed over the last year, including more than 6,000 at Canada Revenue Agency.

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