Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Czech_pivo]

I assume you mean this? Your link isnt working

Carney signals he’s prepared to fight an election over next week’s budget

Prime Minister Mark Carney is signaling he is prepared to fight an election over the federal budget, which is set to be tabled on Tuesday.

www.ctvnews.ca

The NDP have no leader and more than likely 0$ in the pot. They will struggle mightily to field a substantial number of candidates

 

[MilEME09]

The NDP have no leader and more than likely 0$ in the pot. They will struggle mightily to field a substantial number of candidates

Agreed but also, its almost double jeopardy for Pierre Poilievre. Force a another election, and if he loses it, I dont see any way he could stay on as leader in January. Thats gotta be something playing out in his mind.

 

[Navy_Pete]

I know some people are chomping at the bit for an election, but I think the snap back against NDP and PC would be signficant. There is also the Bloc, but doubt they would face any political backlash from their constituents.

With all the large projects they are looking at in different regions, including CPC strongholds I think they will find the 3 votes relatively easily.

 

[brihard]

Agreed but also, its almost double jeopardy for Pierre Poilievre. Force an another election, and if he loses it, I dont see any way he could stay on as leader in January. Thats gotta be something playing out in his mind.

Huh. I didn’t think of that, but it’s a valid point. On the plus side, it would be an efficient twofer- a single leadership review for two lost elections.

 

[MilEME09]

Huh. I didn’t think of that, but it’s a valid point. On the plus side, it would be an efficient twofer- a single leadership review for two lost elections.

I cant think of any party leader whos lost two election in a year and stayed on as leader.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I know some people are chomping at the bit for an election, but I think the snap back against NDP and PC would be signficant. There is also the Bloc, but doubt they would face any political backlash from their constituents.

With all the large projects they are looking at in different regions, including CPC strongholds I think they will find the 3 votes relatively easily.

The last time the Liberals promised to keep the deficit to $40 billion and unabashedly dropped a $62 billion stink bomb.

The projected deficit next year is $75 billion. So maybe 90 or 100?

Forget about the CPC and NDP coffers, can Canadians afford that?

 

[MilEME09]

Forget about the CPC and NDP coffers, can Canadians afford that?

On the flip side of that coin, can canadians afford massive cuts to programs and services? Where do you strike the balance given the state of the economy

 

[Czech_pivo]

The last time the Liberals promised to keep the deficit to $40 billion and unabashedly dropped a $62 billion stink bomb.

The projected deficit next year is $75 billion. So maybe 90 or 100?

Forget about the CPC and NDP coffers, can Canadians afford that?

If an election would occur, it would fall when? Just before Christmas or between Christmas and New Years

 

[brihard]

If an election would occur, it would fall when? Just before Christmas or between Christmas and New Years

Assuming a minimum length 37 days period, probably about a week before Christmas.

 

[MilEME09]

If an election would occur, it would fall when? Just before Christmas or between Christmas and New Years

37-51 days after the writ drops would be likely be dec 15th at the earliest, 51 days would be exactly Christmas from budget day.

 

[Haggis]

If an election would occur, it would fall when? Just before Christmas or between Christmas and New Years

If it comes to that and I were Carney, I'd call the election for December 29th. "We didn't want an election, we tabled a reasonable budget that the opposition wouldn't support so it's their fault we're having this holiday election, not ours". Then watch the CPC votes tank!

 

[Halifax Tar]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-budget-opposition-canada-election-9.6963055

Looks like a game of chicken is happening.

If the CPC is responsible for triggering a Christmas election they deserve a shit kicking in the ballots.

As distasteful as it is they need to support this budget.

Let's also not forget its the sitting Govs job to table a budget that works in a minority setting, not use it as a tool to play their own partisan games.

 

[Brad Sallows]

On the flip side of that coin, can canadians afford massive cuts to programs and services? Where do you strike the balance given the state of the economy

The greater the borrowing, the greater the cost of servicing the borrowing. How does that end?

 

[MilEME09]

The greater the borrowing, the greater the cost of servicing the borrowing. How does that end?

Well we gotta reverse the trends that started because of ww2.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Assuming a minimum length 37 days period, probably about a week before Christmas.

Ain’t happening

 

[Czech_pivo]

If it comes to that and I were Carney, I'd call the election for December 29th. "We didn't want an election, we tabled a reasonable budget that the opposition wouldn't support so it's their fault we're having this holiday election, not ours". Then watch the CPC votes tank!

If the CPC is responsible for triggering a Christmas election they deserve a shit kicking in the ballots.

As distasteful as it is they need to support this budget.

Let's also not forget it’s the sitting Govs job to table a budget that works in a minority setting, not use it as a tool to play their own partisan games.

I think that budget cuts are happening across the board.
Renewed my passport on Friday (expires first week of February) because I’m of the belief that the price of them will be goi g up.
The fellow doing the paperwork work was saying that their Rumint was bracing for large scale cuts to headcount.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Well we gotta reverse the trends that started because of ww2.

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Over lay that CPP/Healthcare/OAS/Childcare payments/HST rebates, etc

 

[Czech_pivo]

The greater the borrowing, the greater the cost of servicing the borrowing. How does that end?

Depends on the interest rates, unemployment rates and GDP growth numbers.
Have a look at the US vs Canada 30yr bonds and see who’s in worst shape.

 

[Lumber]

Agreed but also, its almost double jeopardy for Pierre Poilievre. Force a another election, and if he loses it, I dont see any way he could stay on as leader in January. Thats gotta be something playing out in his mind.

I think the budget is a bit of a risk for him too.

If he doesn't support the budget, there's a chance he loses the election (or even gives the LPC a majority). Plus, he must know how much chaos it would cause, by delaying/confusing the implementation of a lot of MC "big projects".

But, if he does support it, his more hardcore party base may see it as weakness and lead to his losing the leadership review.

 

[MilEME09]

I think the budget is a bit of a risk for him too.

If he doesn't support the budget, there's a chance he loses the election (or even gives the LPC a majority). Plus, he must know how much chaos it would cause, by delaying/confusing the implementation of a lot of MC "big projects".

But, if he does support it, his more hardcore party base may see it as weakness and lead to his losing the leadership review.

No one wants a Christmas election, and I think the liberals might offer just enough to let him save face.