Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Altair]

I think he's visibly propping the door open for others and I think he has reason to believe those others exist. If we saw floor-crossing the LPC into a majority- wow. That's not on my bingo card. It will also absolutely fucking enrage some folks.

Imaging 3 1/2 more years of not constantly speculating about an election?

Would put the poor polling industry out of business though ...

 

[Maxman1]

He'll probably lose on reelection. Floor crossers don't tend to be rewarded by their riding. Just ask Belinda Stronach.

 

[brihard]

He'll probably lose on reelection. Floor crossers don't tend to be rewarded by their riding. Just ask Belinda Stronach.

His riding was nearly a dead heat between CPC and LPC, and he's in Nova Scotia. He's in arguably the most survivable position a floor-crosser can be in for a CPC to LPC.

 

[MilEME09]

I think he's visibly propping the door open for others and I think he has reason to believe those others exist. If we saw floor-crossing the LPC into a majority- wow. That's not on my bingo card. It will also absolutely fucking enrage some folks.

1 is a meh, if we have multiple crossings? that will look really bad for Pierre

 

[HavokFour]

Overall a fairly blue tinted budget after a quick gloss. How CPC MP's vote is going to be interesting, might be seeing a few break rank.

 

[brihard]

1 is a meh, if we have multiple crossings? that will look really bad for Pierre

I have zero feel for the RUMINT on who else may also be considering it. But it will be a viable option for a few. Crossing guarantees most of three and a half more years in office, and is reasonably defensible from a political standpoint by those who are of a Progressive Conservative bent.

If D'Entremont crosses, and the LPC are just two away, that's worth a deliberate push to entice two more. If this isn't already quietly sorted.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Absolutely zero chance he’d so much as hint at that publicly unless it was basically a done deal, or the last public step of a nearly complete negotiation. It’s political suicide otherwise.

I’ve got a lot of reading to do but first impression is positive.

The potential elimination of the emissions cap will be a very welcome move.

Not sure the NDP can choke this one down even by abstention. But we’ll see.

More to follow once my reading and brain catch up to details.

Smart move putting in the budget a new community centre in the riding of the temp NDP leader.

 

[MilEME09]

I have zero feel for the RUMINT on who else may also be considering it. But it will be a viable option for a few. Crossing guarantees most of three and a half more years in office, and is reasonably defensible from a political standpoint by those who are of a Progressive Conservative bent.

If D'Entremont crosses, and the LPC are just two away, that's worth a deliberate push to entice two more. If this isn't already quietly sorted.

keep an eye on next week, if the crossing happens it will be announced after remembrance day but before the house sits to vote on the budget

 

[Cloud Cover]

1 is a meh, if we have multiple crossings? that will look really bad for Pierre

There are 2 more who will announce before the budget vote.
I think the CPC will likely not oppose this budget.

 

[Altair]

There are 2 more who will announce before the budget vote.
I think the CPC will likely not oppose this budget.

It's over 42b and it doesn't get rid of the industrial carbon tax. Zero way the CPC support it.

 

[brihard]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1985817413204496468

https://twitter.com/x/status/1985835260941308106

See how this plays out.

 

[MilEME09]

It's over 42b and it doesn't get rid of the industrial carbon tax. Zero way the CPC support it.

$42 billion or less was never going to happen unless it was a severe austerity budget

 

[Czech_pivo]

Personally I find the practice despicable and selfish. This close to a majority I'm surprised more MPs haven't jumped ship sooner.

They might have been told to sit on their hands and wait until the budget comes down.

 

[Czech_pivo]

He'll probably lose on reelection. Floor crossers don't tend to be rewarded by their riding. Just ask Belinda Stronach.

I think Churchill managed to hold his own on his floor crossings.

 

[Altair]

$42 billion or less was never going to happen unless it was a severe austerity budget

Obviously.

Didnt stop PP from making that a condition of his support.

Oh, and to cut taxes.

There was a zero chance PP would support a LPC budget.

More amusingly, if PP was PM, with those conditions, he wouldn't support his own budget

 

[Lumber]

Imagine if a few switch and Elizabeth May becomes the HoC kingmaker…lol

That'd be hilarious. We need more drunk Elizabeth May in our lives.

 

[brihard]

Confirmed d'Entremont is out of CPC caucus. I see no way this has happened unless he was already decided on crossing.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-mp-out-of-caucus-chris-dentremont-9.6966836

 

[PPCLI Guy]

At very first blush, I can live with this budget, even if it included an announcement that they will be reducing the program spend for Veteran's cannabis that plays a significant role in my pain management regimen

 

[Altair]

Confirmed d'Entremont is out of CPC caucus. I see no way this has happened unless he was already decided on crossing.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-mp-out-of-caucus-chris-dentremont-9.6966836

Amusing that we are all sitting here waiting for the other shoe to drop.

 

[brihard]

At very first blush, I can live with this budget, even if it included an announcement that they will be reducing the program spend for Veteran's cannabis that plays a significant role in my pain management regimen

If I read correctly, it's a reduction in reimbursement from I think $8.50 to $6 a gram, which they state is in line with market price. Never having bought or used the stuff myself (no judgement- just not for me) is that congruent with reality?