Well, she did survive the local mass cull of 2001.And shut up Jenny Kwan... nails on a chalk board that one
Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???
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Quirky
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We don't need the ranks of Hamas anywhere near Carney and his government. The NDP need to sort themselves out to give these extremists a place to play.
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Fred Hahn for the next NDP leader?
I was planning to vote CFP until Carney came on the scene.
PC types don’t think they can influence where to CPC is going and don’t seem to be welcome under that tent anymore.
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That's pretty standard, and we had the same between CPFs and 280s. Some quals are far more platform specific, so LOE for the delta training will vary.
The RCD requirements will be hugely AEGIS dependent for training, and for the ops room team may include specific collective training requirements to qualify the team members so may be a lot less flexible than what we are used to for jetty hopping.
For the Eng side anyway sounds like there will be very different propulsion platforms, so likely fairly extensive delta training, as well as platform specific quals for things like high power electrical (like on AOPs). The RN design is also coming with some different shoring and some other equipment, so ideally we just adopt it throughout the fleet and not have platform specific emergency equipment for fires and floods that requires retraining.
Nah, my money’s on the dockworkers’ union guy from out west. A return to blue collar labour roots. NDP lost a lot of that to CPC last election and should be frightened by that fact.
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The nouveau champagne socialists have got issues with their base... and they've never really been able to get full support from all 'working people' (Gawd I hate that term).
The New Democrats and the Working-Class Vote
After a disastrous election, can the NDP reclaim labour support?
On election night, in Burnaby, an emotional Jagmeet Singh stepped down as NDP leader having lost his own seat while the party went from 24 to seven MPs.
Before Singh spoke, Sussanne Skidmore, president of the BC Federation of Labour, highlighted his accomplishments in fighting for dental care and pharmacare.
“I’m proud to be a New Democrat because we’re the party of working-class and everyday people,” she said to cheers and applause. “Unions and workers founded this party. It is our home, and it is our movement.”
As a Vancouverite who grew up in the Cariboo, I was surprised to hear Skidmore say this. I grew up among the working class — ranchers, mill workers and mine workers. Even though they benefit from some of the things the NDP has advocated for, like dental care, I don’t see many of them voting orange or feeling represented by the party.
In B.C., 10 NDP MPs lost their seats. While half of them went to Liberals — like Port Moody-Coquitlam and Victoria — half went to Conservatives. Across the country, the NDP lost more of its seats to Conservatives than to Liberals.
Of those who voted NDP in the 2021 election, 55 per cent voted Liberal, 27 per cent NDP again and 13 per cent Conservative, according to data from Ipsos election-day exit polls shared with The Tyee.
How did this party fall out of favour with so many workers it purports to represent?
The New Democrats and the Working-Class Vote | The Tyee
After a disastrous election, can the NDP reclaim labour support?
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Jagmeet Singh
Halifax Tar
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I think you missed my sarcasm.
Quirky
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'working people' just means "low/min-wage earners".
daftandbarmy
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Ironically, just like much of their approach since Jack Layton died, they took the 'class' out ...
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The NDP have gotten into an impossible position. Like Democrats in the US, they are now controlled by a tranche of intellectuals who openly despise much of what characterizes the lives of people not consumed by the interests and aims of intellectuals.
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The nouveau champagne socialists have got issues with their base... and they've never really been able to get full support from all 'working people' (Gawd I hate that term).
The New Democrats and the Working-Class Vote
After a disastrous election, can the NDP reclaim labour support?
On election night, in Burnaby, an emotional Jagmeet Singh stepped down as NDP leader having lost his own seat while the party went from 24 to seven MPs.
Before Singh spoke, Sussanne Skidmore, president of the BC Federation of Labour, highlighted his accomplishments in fighting for dental care and pharmacare.
“I’m proud to be a New Democrat because we’re the party of working-class and everyday people,” she said to cheers and applause. “Unions and workers founded this party. It is our home, and it is our movement.”
As a Vancouverite who grew up in the Cariboo, I was surprised to hear Skidmore say this. I grew up among the working class — ranchers, mill workers and mine workers. Even though they benefit from some of the things the NDP has advocated for, like dental care, I don’t see many of them voting orange or feeling represented by the party.
In B.C., 10 NDP MPs lost their seats. While half of them went to Liberals — like Port Moody-Coquitlam and Victoria — half went to Conservatives. Across the country, the NDP lost more of its seats to Conservatives than to Liberals.
Of those who voted NDP in the 2021 election, 55 per cent voted Liberal, 27 per cent NDP again and 13 per cent Conservative, according to data from Ipsos election-day exit polls shared with The Tyee.
How did this party fall out of favour with so many workers it purports to represent?
The New Democrats and the Working-Class Vote | The Tyee
After a disastrous election, can the NDP reclaim labour support?thetyee.ca
They forget that social progressives (Woke left) and working class don't actually have that much in common.
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I sure did, that's my superpower, sorry.
The delta training can be pretty intense though; normally can take 6-12 months for some packages.
daftandbarmy
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Which is wild; I miss the NDP that was made up of farmers, unions and other blue collar workers, and would absolutely vote for someone like that with some common sense, fiscal responsibility and focus on getting things done without complicating things. There is way too much that should be niche regulation for very narrow and specific things that somehow becomes a big issue because of the identity politics. Things like premiers talking about trans athletes blows my mind when they are in the single digits and already being addressed by different sport bodies when it made a difference.
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No small feat to reconcile between the bold and underlined in todays labour and political environment.
