Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Cloud Cover]

I'm not disagreeing.

I just saw stepsister in the tweet and tried to figure out what the crime was.

If I were to word it, I would remove stepsister, add 13 year old and mention rape.

PornHub much? LoL...

 

[Jarnhamar]

Maybe, the MOU was only just announced 2 days prior to the most recent polling. NDP numbers are going to continue to fluctuate until they pick a new leader, and then there's the matter of who they pick which will also effect things.

Maybe yeah. The Climate Change Cult has to be really raging with Carney. Especially after he rubbed shoulders with Smith, AND their messiah walked out of cabinet. Ouch.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Let's put this into perspective.

Earlier I did a piece of how much value Canadian companies are receiving currently on the work they are doing on the F35 program. Its about 3% of the value of a F35. I ball parked the value of a F35 at 80m USD. The 3% is approximately 2.4$m USD or or 3.36$m CAD a plane. If they produce another 1,500 F35's that 1,500 * 3.36$m CAD = 5,040,000,000$ CAD. So our current potential revenue on the F35's, based on 1,500 planes produced from here on out and our current value add of 3% of the total value of a produced F35 holds true, CDN businesses stand to make 5$ billion CAD

IF CDN defense companies are able to garner a similar value of the 150$ billion Euro pot of money that would be 150 * .03% = 450,000,000 Euro or 450,000,000 * 1.60 = 720,000,000 CAD. The amount of 1.60 represents an approximate current exchange rate between the CAD and the Euro.

So, the F35 program, based on the above back of the napkin math, is worth 7X more in terms of dollars and cents to Canadian industries. I'm NOT saying that we shouldn't go all in on SAFE, but even if we fight tooth and nail and get 6% of the total pot of money available it would still represent 3X less than the current F35 project.

Oops - math mistake - 3% of 150 billion would be 4.5billion EURO or 7.2 billion CAD. So the SAF program would be 50% larger than the F35 current gains for CDN business. If we 1.5% (half the current 3% total value of a F35 that we are getting now), under SAFE that would be 2.25 billion EURO or 3.6 billion CAD. That works out to be roughly 2/3 the value of the F35 contract for CDN businesses.

 

[Altair]

PornHub much? LoL...

A man of culture I see.

 

[Altair]

Oops - math mistake - 3% of 150 billion would be 4.5billion EURO or 7.2 billion CAD. So the SAF program would be 50% larger than the F35 current gains for CDN business. If we 1.5% (half the current 3% total value of a F35 that we are getting now), under SAFE that would be 2.25 billion EURO or 3.6 billion CAD. That works out to be roughly 2/3 the value of the F35 contract for CDN businesses.

SAFE + SAAB and we are cooking.

 

[MilEME09]

SAFE + SAAB and we are cooking.

throw in the more focus in the arctic, DAME might get a boost by into to a euro market. Other projects could benefit as well, not to mention we could potentially try and market LAV 6 to europe. Would potentially be a hard sell but we may find customers in the Smaller countries like Greece, Bulgaria etc

 

[Brad Sallows]

throw in the more focus in the arctic, DAME might get a boost by into to a euro market. Other projects could benefit as well, not to mention we could potentially try and market LAV 6 to europe. Would potentially be a hard sell but we may find customers in the Smaller countries like Greece, Bulgaria etc

And we might find out that an unspoken price of the smaller countries being backstopped in their Euro-denominated borrowing by Germany is to buy military kit in Europe and we never really had a chance and are just kidding ourselves.

 

[Czech_pivo]

And we might find out that an unspoken price of the smaller countries being backstopped in their Euro-denominated borrowing by Germany is to buy military kit in Europe and we never really had a chance and are just kidding ourselves.

I think that’s a fair assumption.
I that our best shot might be in the naval sector and maybe with MDA in the space side.
Germany buying CMS330 might open the door into some other navies. Maybe the Swedes expansion of buying 4 new frigates.

 

[MilEME09]

I think that’s a fair assumption.
I that our best shot might be in the naval sector and maybe with MDA in the space side.
Germany buying CMS330 might open the door into some other navies. Maybe the Swedes expansion of buying 4 new frigates.

Well with wedgetail dead for NATO AWACs, perhaps we can sell a crap ton a global eyes to euro airforces?

 

[Czech_pivo]

Well with wedgetail dead for NATO AWACs, perhaps we can sell a crap ton a global eyes to euro airforces?

Well Bombardier just sells a shell of a plane to SAAB, I’m sure a large % of the value add comes from the ‘magic’ the SAAB inserts into that shell of a plane.

 

[MilEME09]

Well Bombardier just sells a shell of a plane to SAAB, I’m sure a large % of the value add comes from the ‘magic’ the SAAB inserts into that shell of a plane.

Which SAAB has offered to so entirely in canada has well with the Gripen deal. Either way it would be more orders for canadian planes

 

[ArmyRick]

Which SAAB has offered to so entirely in canada has well with the Gripen deal. Either way it would be more orders for canadian planes

Your living in a pipe dream, son.

I think PM MC is going to dangle the maybe SAAB, maybe F35 in front of many of you people until we head to another election, and he hopes it helps him to secure a majority.

 

[brihard]

Your living in a pipe dream, son.

I think PM MC is going to dangle the maybe SAAB, maybe F35 in front of many of you people until we head to another election, and he hopes it helps him to secure a majority.

No, because voters don’t really give a shit about the military. Never really have, never really will.

 

[ArmyRick]

So Guibeault quits with protest, looks like the LPC is breaking apart.

Lot more validity to that claim than the CPC is falling apart theory being tossed around a few weeks ago.

And Poilievre and his doppleganger at the Parliamentary press dinner, rock start classic!

 

[ArmyRick]

No, because voters don’t really give a shit about the military. Never really have, never really will.

You are right. They don't.

But some are obsessed with shitting on Trump, and they see this JAS39E vs F35 as a "in your face" moment to Trump.

 

[Quirky]

You are right. They don't.

But some are obsessed with shitting on Trump, and they see this JAS39E vs F35 as a "in your face" moment to Trump.

Canadians just want to feel good about themselves for 2 minutes if the SAAB is chosen just so they can say “fuck trump”. After those two minutes are up they’ll go onto something else. Meanwhile the CAF will have to deal with that garbage for 40+ years.

 

[MilEME09]

No, because voters don’t really give a shit about the military. Never really have, never really will.

They only briefly do when the bodies come home

 

[Halifax Tar]

Dont vote under the influence, it leads to regrets.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1995601344447525161

 

[mariomike]

latest poll from Liaison has liberals ahead by 10 points in Ontario, ahead everywhere but the Prairies.

338Canada | Liaison Strategies federal poll, November 2025

338canada.com

Female voters 42% Team Red. 36% Team Blue.

Won't attempt to "man-splain" why.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Female voters 42% Team Red. 36% Team Blue.

Honest qustion here, why post it and point it out if you're not wiling to discuss it?

Won't attempt to "man-splain" why.

I'm sure the 2 or 3 active female posters here appreciate this.