Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[ArmyRick]

Another interesting take I have heard from several political pundits (one of them being Warren Kinsella) is that Carney wants to unload more of the Trudeau crowd. The far, far left crowd that will die before they see a new pipeline, or basically never want anything built.

Carney is right to get rid of these unproductive idiots but he risk fracturing his Liberal coalition. A "rupture" so to speak.

 

[Altair]

Sounds like the Mandela Effect.

I have receipts.

 

[Altair]

Before anyone wets themselves prematurely with excitement on Canada-China trade, or keeps saying "nostradamus" over and over again,

Carney says Canada not pursuing free trade deal with China as Trump threatens 100% tariffs

Trump's rhetoric on Truth Social contrasts with what he said after the agreement between Ottawa and Beijing: "If you can get a deal with China, you should do that."

www.cnbc.com

To be honest, I don't Carney is the mastermind some make him out to be, and if getting Donald Trump to say stupid shit is his strategy going into the election this year (both left and right political pundits are sure its happening), that strategy will wear out real quick. Also note, many saying Carney does not want the new NDP leader to get any traction (You know where those votes will come from)

I never said free trade with China.

I said drop EV tariffs, build Chinese EVs here, sell canola to China.

Which Carney did.

Nostradamus.

 

[Altair]

Mod removed post.

Chinese importer buys first Canadian canola cargo in months after Carney visit, Reuters sources say

A Chinese importer bought one Panamax cargo of about 60,000 metric tons of Canadian canola shortly after Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney’s visit to Beijing last week, two traders with direct knowledge of the deal told Reuters on Monday.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

BEIJING/SINGAPORE- A Chinese importer bought one Panamax cargo of about 60,000 metric tons of Canadian canola shortly after Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney’s visit to Beijing last week, two traders with direct knowledge of the deal told Reuters on Monday.

About that.

 

[ArmyRick]

Chinese importer buys first Canadian canola cargo in months after Carney visit, Reuters sources say

A Chinese importer bought one Panamax cargo of about 60,000 metric tons of Canadian canola shortly after Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney’s visit to Beijing last week, two traders with direct knowledge of the deal told Reuters on Monday.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

About that.

Read that article before you shove it out there. Its Canola, as in SEED not oil. WAY LESS money. and its not a large shipment, month after month. Thats what we need if Canada is dumb enough to keep growing so much Canola (and again make ourselves dependent on China).

You are known for knee jerk responses, and this is one of them, Its not the win you think it is. Do more than a five minute google search before responding.

 

[Furniture]

I still maintain that Carney and the LPC aren't going to risk it on a spring election.

I suspect you're correct. So long as they can move legislation through parliament, I doubt they want to risk an election.

It's better for them to wait for some of their policies to bear fruit, rather than to hope that a bump from a great speech will carry them through.

 

[brihard]

In six months or so we’ll have decent trade data on what’s actually sailing offshore sold to China, and we’ll be able to make meaningful analysis of the efficacy of that pretty minor trade deal. Any celebration or condemnation of the terms of the trade agreement before that analysis can be done just jerking off online.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I have receipts.

Next you'll tell me the C3P0 Droid didn't have a silver leg.

 

[Altair]

Next you'll tell me the C3P0 Droid didn't have a silver leg.

C3PO didn't have a silver leg.

How did I do?

 

[Altair]

Read that article before you shove it out there. Its Canola, as in SEED not oil. WAY LESS money. and its not a large shipment, month after month. Thats what we need if Canada is dumb enough to keep growing so much Canola (and again make ourselves dependent on China).

You are known for knee jerk responses, and this is one of them, Its not the win you think it is. Do more than a five minute google search before responding.

So a sale was made. Therefore, more than nothing. Thank you.

 

[HavokFour]

Several things here, though to me the greenhouses are a big one. Food security is national security.

To lower the cost of food production, we are introducing immediate expensing for greenhouse buildings. This allows producers to fully write off greenhouses acquired on or after November 4, 2025, and that become available for use before 2030. This measure supports increased domestic supply and investment in food production over the medium-term

Prime Minister Carney announces new measures to make groceries and other essentials more affordable for Canadians

Our plan is moving Canada’s economy from reliance to resilience, though some of the biggest long-term payoffs of this transformation will take time to be felt.

www.pm.gc.ca

 

[PPCLI Guy]

So a sale was made. Therefore, more than nothing. Thank you.

So glad that we are back to the usually programmed slap fight.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Not that I have heard, but I don't know if any have been submitted for evaluation. If a market is closed to you, why would you bother? I have no clue regarding the process, how long it would take or how much it would cost.

I know CF Moto, a Chinese manufacturer of motorcycles, ATVs, quads, etc. is now in both the Canadian and US markets.

One interesting thing I heard is that China is going to mandate all cars have an exterior, mechanical handle, so that would actually require Tesla to do a design change to sell their cars there. Better than being trapped inside after a crash and dying in a fire though.

China is actually one of the international leads in a lot of the fire research around EVs and other new technologies so that's where a lot of info is coming from, and I'm sure they will make the changes required to bring them to market here fairly easily, as long as the crash test is within standard, as that's something baked into the car structure that would require a major redesign.

Worst case they develop a line meant for export, and aim for something that would meet EU, Canadian and US standards (with minor mods for regional requirements), and if they don't have one already standing by sure it will get developed remarkably fast. Lot of smart people to work on that, and they will happily build higher quality stuff that they can sell (just like they build cheap crap because there is a market for it).

 

[Jarnhamar]

C3PO didn't have a silver leg.

How did I do?

Definitely Mandela Effect

 

[Altair]

Definitely Mandela Effect

I'll just DM you.

 

[Maxman1]

One interesting thing I heard is that China is going to mandate all cars have an exterior, mechanical handle, so that would actually require Tesla to do a design change to sell their cars there. Better than being trapped inside after a crash and dying in a fire though.

Corvette uses a similar, also stupid electric door latch that has caused at least one death when the driver was trapped for several days after the battery failed and he was unable to open the door or access the emergency release.

I still don't get why they moved away from this:

 

[HavokFour]

Corvette uses a similar, also stupid electric door latch that has caused at least one death when the driver was trapped for several days after the battery failed and he was unable to open the door or access the emergency release.

I still don't get why they moved away from this:

A reminder that keeping a window breaker and seatbelt cutter tool in your vehicle isn't a bad idea. Makes for a great stocking stuffer for family and friends.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Corvette uses a similar, also stupid electric door latch that has caused at least one death when the driver was trapped for several days after the battery failed and he was unable to open the door or access the emergency release.

I still don't get why they moved away from this:

Yeah, it's not just a Tesla thing (or an EV thing). Shaving off handles has been a custom car thing for a long time as well, but not really the same as the default that comes off the line.

Steer by wire steering systems are also becoming a thing, and for same reasons not a fan.

Not that you can't build in safety features etc to electronic systems, or that mechanical systems are infallible, but at least with a mechanical linkage you can inspect it and repair it. Electronic systems can fail with no warning because the wrong 1 got turned into a zero on a software update or glitch, and have way less faith in the QC process (especially with AI being used to write code at scale).

 

[YZT580]

Corvette uses a similar, also stupid electric door latch that has caused at least one death when the driver was trapped for several days after the battery failed and he was unable to open the door or access the emergency release.

I still don't get why they moved away from this:

And other changes like no-draft windows, I miss them. Must use AC now on the highway instead of fresh air.

 

[GR66]

Has Transport Canada or the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved any Chinese EVs yet?

I recall reading somewhere that most (if not all?) the Chinese EV's that were imported by Canada before the 100% tariffs went into effect were Teslas built in China.

From ChatGPT:

Yes — there have been Tesla automobiles built in China that were imported into Canada. Here’s what’s known:

China-built Teslas Sold in Canada

• Starting in 2023, Tesla began exporting Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built at its Gigafactory Shanghai (China) to Canada for sale and delivery. These vehicles appeared on the Tesla Canada website with VIN codes indicating they were made in China.
• The exported China-built vehicles included rear-wheel drive Model Y variants and Long Range all-wheel drive Model 3s, and they were eligible for Canadian federal EV incentives because Canada doesn’t tie incentives to where the vehicle was manufactured.
• Canadian inventory records from that period showed a small number of China-built Model Y and Model 3 units “ready for delivery” across several provinces, identifiable by VINs starting with the prefix assigned to the Shanghai facility.

Changes After Trade Policy Shifts

• After 2023, Canada imposed a 100% tariff on Chinese electric vehicles, which significantly reduced or paused China-to-Canada imports. Tesla then shifted its supply for the Canadian market to cars built at its Fremont (USA) and Berlin (Germany) factories.
• As of early 2026, a new trade deal between Canada and China reduced tariffs on Chinese EVs and created quotas for imports, which could allow Tesla to resume exporting China-built models to Canada under more favorable conditions.

How to Tell If a Tesla Was Built in China

If you’re checking a specific vehicle:

• The VIN (Vehicle Identification Number) can tell you where it was manufactured. China-built Teslas from Shanghai generally start with “LRW”.

Summary: Yes — Tesla did ship and sell China-built Model 3 and Model Y vehicles in Canada beginning in 2023, marking some of the first China-manufactured Tesla exports into the Canadian market. Trade policy changes later disrupted that, with Tesla shifting supply to its U.S. and European factories, but recent policy updates could lead to more China-to-Canada imports again.