Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Grunt_031]

Fortunately Canada has an entire industrial services sector that’s pretty good and building and sustaining a few hundred people in austere camps (with decent quality of life) way more remote than any of the locations under discussion. If CAF is serious about projecting more presence into the subarctic or Arctic, sustainment and infrastructure can be contracted out on the way to permanence as CAF builds the necessary capacity.

Similar to CFS Alert now.

 

[Kirkhill]

Fort MacMurray

1961 - 1,110
1971 - 6,681
1981 - 31,000 (boom census data unreliable due to transients and temporary housing)
1991 - 33,698
2001 - 30,000 - 40,000 (boom census data unreliable due to transients and temporary housing)
2011 - 61,374
2021 - 68,002

There is no reason, to my mind why places like Churchill and Iqaluit, Goose Bay and Gray's Bay, given the right circumstances, couldn't achieve similar growth. Yellowknife and Whitehorse both started as trading posts.

Once upon a time the entire white population of the lower mainland fitted inside a stockade at Fort Langley.

No city in Canada started with a divided highway servicing it.

The market imperative for the railroad to Vancouver in 1867 was just as obscure as that to Churchill. In fact the prospect for the Churchill route in 1867 was probably better tha that of Vancouver because the HBC had already started laying rail for wagonways at portage points to move both freight and York Boats.

 

[mariomike]

Another for the chain, here's Mainstreet for Jan. 31-Feb. 2.

https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/66c8dfb086a015b3b519e988/6981568ca06972c45d09db75_Mainstreet_Canada_Jan_2026_Public.pdf

February 3, 2026

Carney Liberals dominate in new Mainstreet Research poll​

Carney Liberals dominate in new Mainstreet Research poll

The latest federal voter intentions from Mainstreet Research show a surge for the Mark Carney Liberals.

www.mainstreetresearch.ca

Readers may, or may not, find these references to the discussion of interest,

This surge in support for the Carney Liberals is largely driven by a shift among voters under 35 who the Conservatives have led among for the past few years.

Atlantic Canada where the highest per capita active and retired Canadian forces personnel hail from appears to have taken the Trump insults about our participation in NATO personally”

 

[dapaterson]

Deputy head of the Ontario NSP to run for the federal Liberals in Blair's riding.

Looks like they're stealing ideas from the CPC and people from the NSP, staking out a big tent.

Mark Carney’s Liberals recruit Ontario NDP deputy leader to run in Scarborough byelection

The federal Liberals announced Tuesday morning that Doly Begum, the New Democrat MPP for the riding and the provincial NDP’s deputy leader, will be their candidate in the Scarborough Southwest

www.thestar.com

 

[Kirkhill]

Deputy head of the Ontario NSP to run for the federal Liberals in Blair's riding.

Looks like they're stealing ideas from the CPC and people from the NSP, staking out a big tent.

Mark Carney’s Liberals recruit Ontario NDP deputy leader to run in Scarborough byelection

The federal Liberals announced Tuesday morning that Doly Begum, the New Democrat MPP for the riding and the provincial NDP’s deputy leader, will be their candidate in the Scarborough Southwest

www.thestar.com

Ee! By gum! I never did!

 

[RangerRay]

Another for the chain, here's Mainstreet for Jan. 31-Feb. 2.

https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/66c8dfb086a015b3b519e988/6981568ca06972c45d09db75_Mainstreet_Canada_Jan_2026_Public.pdf

Oof.

 

[Maxman1]

Make no mistake; Churchill would be an isolated and probably crappy posting, particularly for families. Maybe CAF should consider a ‘fly in/fly out’ rotational model for many of the hypothetical staff like a lot of the work camps or some of the remote RCMP posts do? Families could live where it makes sense to live, and every two weeks people rotate in and out. Bust your ass for two weeks, fly home to Winnipeg or Edmonton for two weeks off. Might even be cheaper than cost moves up there.

Maybe if we reopen CFS Bermuda, we could throw in priority postings for people who do far north taskings.

 

[foresterab]

Fort MacMurray

1961 - 1,110
1971 - 6,681
1981 - 31,000 (boom census data unreliable due to transients and temporary housing)
1991 - 33,698
2001 - 30,000 - 40,000 (boom census data unreliable due to transients and temporary housing)
2011 - 61,374
2021 - 68,002

There is no reason, to my mind why places like Churchill and Iqaluit, Goose Bay and Gray's Bay, given the right circumstances, couldn't achieve similar growth. Yellowknife and Whitehorse both started as trading posts.

Once upon a time the entire white population of the lower mainland fitted inside a stockade at Fort Langley.

No city in Canada started with a divided highway servicing it.

The market imperative for the railroad to Vancouver in 1867 was just as obscure as that to Churchill. In fact the prospect for the Churchill route in 1867 was probably better tha that of Vancouver because the HBC had already started laying rail for wagonways at portage points to move both freight and York Boats.

That's the formal city census numbers only too cited for Fort Mac.

Doesn't include the 10,000's that were in industrial camps all around the city.

 

[IKnowNothing]

Some clear eyed commentary on the CPC convention from conservative pundits. Both seem tired, Jen seems exasperated.

Interesting excerpt:

Why not? Because almost half the Conservative base approves of Trump. According to an Angus Reid survey , 33 per cent of Conservative voters give Trump an “A” or a “B” for his first year of his second term and fifteen per cent give him a “C.” In contrast, zero Liberal and NDP voters grade him higher than “C” and over 90 per cent give him an “F” — compared to only a third of CPC voters.

That's an ideological tent held together by shoe lace and duct tape

Tasha Khereiddin
Jen Gerson

 

[MilEME09]

Oof.

Seems like the Davos speech really worked in his favor domestically. He just needs a solid two quarters of positive economic news to cement his position. If he can get south Korean to bring manufacturing jobs to Southern ontario, that will likely flip a few areas red.

 

[dapaterson]

Seems like the Davos speech really worked in his favor domestically. He just needs a solid two quarters of positive economic news to cement his position. If he can get south Korean to bring manufacturing jobs to Southern ontario, that will likely flip a few areas red.

Plus resource extraction and processing industries (eg steel mills).

 

[MilEME09]

Plus resource extraction and processing industries (eg steel mills).

suddenly making Ontario a have province again, now that would be interesting

 

[HavokFour]

Hello cherry on top.

Hanwha Aerospace proposes ground defense solutions to Canadian minister

Hanwha Aerospace, a South Korean defense company, proposed an integrated ground defense solution to Canada's defense procurement minister during his visit

m.koreaherald.com

 

[MilEME09]

Hello cherry on top.

Hanwha Aerospace proposes ground defense solutions to Canadian minister

Hanwha Aerospace, a South Korean defense company, proposed an integrated ground defense solution to Canada's defense procurement minister during his visit

m.koreaherald.com

GBAD was part of the original unsolicited proposal they made so I am not surprised, they did offer the K30 biho, which would be a good solution with both guns and SAM's