Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[HavokFour]

Today isn't a good day for Pierre.

Michael Taube: Doug Ford's daughter lets slip he may run for Conservative leader 'at some point'

Krista Haynes' podcast banter revives long-standing rumors of Ford jumping to federal Conservative leadership — if Poilievre falters

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[IKnowNothing]

Time for the CPC to admit they have a problem.

Can't be done. IMO the problem is well past the point of being strategic/tactical/messaging what have you. It's existential.

Literal Maple MAGA (Canadian's that like Trump and would prefer Canada to be more like Trump's America) make up like a 3rd of the CPC voter base.

Figurative Maple MAGA (Canadian's that are wholly captured by Poilievre's MAGA like info machine, legitimately like what he's brought to the table so far, and would reject a pivot to moderation as a betrayal) make up the majority of the party membership, and control a significant portion of the party apparatus.

Not accounting for the overlap between the two groups, it's getting increasingly difficult to reconcile a platform and party identity that satisfies members of the above while being tolerable to conservative leaning non-members.

 

[lenaitch]

Today isn't a good day for Pierre.

Michael Taube: Doug Ford's daughter lets slip he may run for Conservative leader 'at some point'

Krista Haynes' podcast banter revives long-standing rumors of Ford jumping to federal Conservative leadership — if Poilievre falters

nationalpost.com

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I'm not sure how the rest of the country would sidle up to his 'my friends' populist schtick.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I'm not sure how the rest of the country would sidle up to his 'my friends' populist schtick.

I'd rather Houston. Unfortunately this country can see past Riveiere Du Loup and Kenora.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Today isn't a good day for Pierre.

Michael Taube: Doug Ford's daughter lets slip he may run for Conservative leader 'at some point'

Krista Haynes' podcast banter revives long-standing rumors of Ford jumping to federal Conservative leadership — if Poilievre falters

nationalpost.com

Archive

NCE - Not Conservative Enough (according to many supports of Team Blue I deal with).

I'm not sure how the rest of the country would sidle up to his 'my friends' populist schtick.

As opposed to the "still learning to not be the attack dog all the time" incumbent? On that front, I'd see people buy in.

On the other hand, if he's serious about wanting to grab the brass ring for Team Blue Ottawa Franchise, he needs to be more convincing about "seriousness/gravitas" -- wanting to be a national instead of a provincial leader. There's public info as of last summer saying he's back to taking French post-COVID ...

... (source) so we'll have to see.

 

[MilEME09]

I sense a cabinet shuffle coming soon, with an edmonton MP now, Carney would be smart to bring hin into cabinet

 

[Good2Golf]

I sense a cabinet shuffle coming soon, with an edmonton MP now, Carney would be smart to bring hin into cabinet

Make him Housing Minister…could he really do worse than a previous Housing Minister we know…

 

[Cloud Cover]

I'm not sure how the rest of the country would sidle up to his 'my friends' populist schtick.

He is absolutely despised in most of Western Canada- in fairness all Eastern politicians are— but I suspect many would vote PPC or even Liberal than vote for Ford.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Make him Housing Minister…could he really do worse than a previous Housing Minister we know…

Public safety minister and walk back some of the firearms stuff.

Honestly if the Liberals changed their stance on firearms at this point they would have my vote and this is as someone who has only voted Conservative in my life.

Carney has done a good job pivoting them back to the center and with the Conservatives increasingly abandoning it I know where my vote would go.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Public safety minister and walk back some of the firearms stuff.

Honestly if the Liberals changed their stance on firearms at this point they would have my vote and this is as someone who has only voted Conservative in my life.

Carney has done a good job pivoting them back to the center and with the Conservatives increasingly abandoning it I know where my vote would go.

He’s great if you work for the government.

The private sector commercial economy in this country is sliding downhill faster than Economic Jesus can catalyze a conjuring to flip the pages in his business language and witchcraft thesaurus.

 

[Good2Golf]

Honestly if the Liberals changed their stance on firearms at this point they would have my vote and this is as someone who has only voted Conservative in my life.

Not sure that will happen with Nathalie Prevost in their caucus, but I agree the sentiment. I was a prairie-DNA PC-since 18yoa, and after the great Alliance-PC deal reneg of Harper and consistent swing well further and further from center-right where my loyalty lay, I moved on. Martin and Carney were/are red-enough Grits, that I was okay with them. I tried some libertarian-like options because I couldn’t handle JT’s arrogance/smugness/narcissism. I don’t believe either in the cowardly use of OsIC to hand off responsibility of gun control to unelected (and this, directly unaccountable to citizenry) people, nor to potential unchangeable laws to cement the non-legislative prohibitions enacted through use of existing OsIC.

The private sector commercial economy in this country is sliding downhill faster than Economic Jesus can flip the pages in his business language thesaurus.

That’s a pretty wide brush…so ALL private sectors?

 

[Cloud Cover]

The investor reliant tech sector is exiting the country.

Canadian resident inventors and innovators file on average 10 percent fewer applications for patents in the 5 years and last year might have filed 40 percent fewer (still waiting for that report).
Canadian technology innovators start more businesses outside of Canada than inside and that’s by a very wide margin.

Food prices are up and food sales per measured item are way down- demand for food per capita is down for the first time since 1982.

Activity in the Canadian financial sector is nose diving especially Fintech.

Real estate is I don’t know what to even call it.

Commercial construction has fallen off line. Equipment sales are tanking.

Equipment repairs are flattening because parts are expensive relative to declining incomes and profit margins.

Canadians start more business outside of the country than in it.

I mean it’s good for me and probably a lot of you but not a good place to be a young man or woman looking to start a career, especially to start a business.

If you take out business that receive no touch point with government subsidies or procurement then it is in serious decline.

A situation that did not exist 12 years ago with another US President who had a Buy American fetish.

Almost all of Canadas economic problems existed prior to Donald Trump. He just lit the match, or keeps threatening to anyway.

People looking to Carney to solve that are few and far between because he can’t until the whole economy crashes. Best he can do is life support it for a while. That’s why he keeps talking about “sacrifices”. Not his sacrifices - those are for other people.

 

[Eaglelord17]

He’s great if you work for the government.

The private sector commercial economy in this country is sliding downhill faster than Economic Jesus can catalyze a conjuring to flip the pages in his business language and witchcraft thesaurus.

I am private sector. I am in a sector directly effected by Trumps tariffs, to the point my industry would be dead without direct government intervention.

Liberal or Conservative isn’t changing that situation, the problem isn’t in our borders, it is in our neighbours.

If the Conservatives are delusional enough to believe that they would have somehow made a ‘good deal’ I have a bridge to sell you…

 

[brihard]

He is absolutely despised in most of Western Canada- in fairness all Eastern politicians are— but I suspect many would vote PPC or even Liberal than vote for Ford.

CPC probably have the vote margin in the west to weather that just fine. CPC could run damn near anyone and dominate the prairies. If Ford strengthened their position in the major eastern and pacific urban areas, he could potentially deliver a government if conditions were right.