Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Cloud Cover]

By “we” you mean the PM who signed the agreement with the Michigan Governor in………checks calendar…….2012?

Did they give away half or loan half in exchange for repayments via a share of tolls. I read different things about that… it sounds like the mafia family/private owner of the other existing bridge wants a shake down equity stake in Michigan’s part which not going to happen.

 

[Eaglelord17]

I’d vote for Carney’s party out here if he put forth a good candidate who would resign or sit as an independent the very moment they order him to vote in favour of silly things that the government intends on doing if they have a majority. But I would never vote for Ford as a CPC leader and would not vote CPC if he became leader.
I’ve written to Dominic Cardy twice to have him come out here and host a town hall. We need new, non crazy train options.

Ford’s success is mostly due to underwhelming competition not great skill.

Personally I dislike the guy, and I couldn’t be happier if his corrupt ass got kicked to the curb. That being said I don’t see another somewhat viable alternative and until I do, I shall not vote in the Ontario elections again.

With how bad the Ontario Liberals were when Ford got elected, the reality is a rock could have ran, gotten a majority AND done a better job.

Realistically Federally we were in basically the same situation with Trudeau vs PP. It would have been a landslide victory if Trudeau stayed on. The key difference was there was no Carney to save the Ontario Liberals.

 

[Cloud Cover]

I am private sector. I am in a sector directly effected by Trumps tariffs, to the point my industry would be dead without direct government intervention.

Liberal or Conservative isn’t changing that situation, the problem isn’t in our borders, it is in our neighbours.

If the Conservatives are delusional enough to believe that they would have somehow made a ‘good deal’ I have a bridge to sell you…

Never heard the CPC say as an official party position that they could or even would get a better deal. I did hear Carney say that he would. In fact he campaigned on it, and is still campaigning on it.
I did, however, hear the CPC say they would stop the stupid rules and policies that drive businesses out of Canada and into other countries primarily the US.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Never heard the CPC say as an official party position that they could or even would get a better deal. I did hear Carney say that he would. In fact he campaigned on it, and is still campaigning on it.
I did, however, hear the CPC say they would stop the stupid rules and policies that drive businesses out of Canada and into other countries primarily the US.

'Great deal:' Pierre Poilievre makes energy pitch to Trump

Pierre Poilievre says he could increase Canada’s exports to the U.S. and strike a “great deal” with Donald Trump. Find out more.

financialpost.com

‘Pierre Poilievre — the Conservative leader who is the front-runner to beat Trudeau’s party in the next election — says he could increase Canada’s exports to the U.S. and strike a “great deal” with Trump anyway.’

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-us-plan-1.7500060

‘His plan includes a push to renegotiate the trade deal with the U.S. as soon as possible’

Both campaigned on it. Both understand that for a agreement to be made both have to barter in good faith. Unfortunately the States isn’t, and based on how they have been acting with agreements made with other countries they aren’t reliable.

Wanting a good deal and being able to achieve it are two very different things. Time is on our side currently, I wouldn’t rush into any poor deal because there is a very good chance Trump will lose the midterms and even ignoring that, their supreme court rulings can change a lot.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Did they give away half or loan half in exchange for repayments via a share of tolls. I read different things about that… it sounds like the mafia family/private owner of the other existing bridge wants a shake down equity stake in Michigan’s part which not going to happen.

Canada funded the MI "half share" of the bridge because MI legislators would not. When Canada recovers that "loan" from tolls, the toll revenues are to be equally shared.

Irrespective of what Trump or Maroun wants, the acceptance of funding from a foreign government by an executive wanting to bypass a legislature is a wrinkle that some people want to explore. It may not seem a big deal to most people, including most people here, but the idea that executives can't bypass legislators on supply is a sensitive issue in the US. Doesn't matter whether it's airplanes or bridges.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Wanting a good deal and being able to achieve it are two very different things. Time is on our side currently, I wouldn’t rush into any poor deal because there is a very good chance Trump will lose the midterms and even ignoring that, their supreme court rulings can change a lot.

Don't pin too much hope on midterms. Democrats might win only the House. They might win House and Senate, but not with a 60-vote supermajority to overcome filibusters in the latter (a highly unlikely outcome), in which case much of their legislation won't go anywhere. If they got all that or changed the filibuster rule to simple majority, it's even more unlikely that they could override a presidential veto without Republican support. (For a party to change the filibuster rule when it doesn't occupy the WH would be insanely futile.) Expect House Democrats to do their usual - pass a large number of bills that have no hope of going anywhere, just to be able to say "Republicans are against X".

As some Democratic pundits have been warning (based on what's happened before), if the party wins the House and goes on another impotent ideological tear, they could easily throw away any hope of winning the presidency in 2028.