Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[The Bread Guy]

338Canada's take into the "survey says" mix ....

 

[brihard]

338Canada's take into the "survey says" mix ....
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338’a projections tend to be a quite lagging indicator; takes a while for significant swings to manifest. So, yeah…

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Apparently, after

There are a few French communities in northern France and along the Normandy coast where you would think you were in Lac St-Jean or any other more isolated Quebec village.

Apparently, when the French-Canadian soldiers landed in France during/after the Normandy landings they had no problems speaking with the locals. Same dialect and everything.

 

[RangerRay]

I can’t seeing anything changing until the government starts seriously messing up or failing to make progress on what the voters expected this PM to do. That might be a while.

If we have an election before this happens, it almost seems unfair to me for the Tories to dump PP when they lose. It’s almost like he won’t have a chance of turning things around before the government starts to lose its lustre.

 

[The Bread Guy]

... If we have an election before this happens, it almost seems unfair to me for the Tories to dump PP when they lose. It’s almost like he won’t have a chance of turning things around before the government starts to lose its lustre.

There's also a case that he had a chance to clearly and consistently change course right after Carney took over, too.

 

[Remius]

Apparently, after


Apparently, when the French-Canadian soldiers landed in France during/after the Normandy landings they had no problems speaking with the locals. Same dialect and everything.

A lot of that French is frozen in time from the 1500s and 1600s

 

[RangerRay]

There's also a case that he had a chance to clearly and consistently change course right after Carney took over, too.

Oh for sure. He will have to wear that failure to adapt for a long time. I would think it would be disqualifying.

But the party in its infinite wisdom decided to give him another kick at the can, and the Tories’ habit of “one and done” leadership is annoying. But I don’t think PP will be able to win in the short term no matter how well he adapts now. He pretty much has to wait for the government to fail in the eyes of the persuadable voters before he can possibly win. Does he have time though?

 

[MilEME09]

This support comes at the right time as Carney needs to win all 3 by elections to get a majority.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Oh for sure. He will have to wear that failure to adapt for a long time. I would think it would be disqualifying.

But the party in its infinite wisdom decided to give him another kick at the can, and the Tories’ habit of “one and done” leadership is annoying. But I don’t think PP will be able to win in the short term no matter how well he adapts now. He pretty much has to wait for the government to fail in the eyes of the persuadable voters before he can possibly win. Does he have time though?

I don't think he has a chance to win in the long term; his political history is too petty, shortsighted and shallow and he's too aligned with fairly polarizing positions to ever wash off the stink.

Maybe a minority government, if the LPC just implodes but would be as a result of the other guy failing, vice his standalone merit. A lot of his seats were votes against the Trudeau Liberals vice votes for the CPC, and he missed that small window.

 

[dapaterson]

I don't think he has a chance to win in the long term; his political history is too petty, shortsighted and shallow and he's too aligned with fairly polarizing positions to ever wash off the stink.

Maybe a minority government, if the LPC just implodes but would be as a result of the other guy failing, vice his standalone merit. A lot of his seats were votes against the Trudeau Liberals vice votes for the CPC, and he missed that small window.

The 2015 election was a CPC loss, not a LPC win. Canadian voters seem to frequently vote against the incumbent government, rather than for the opposition.

 

[MilEME09]

The 2015 election was a CPC loss, not a LPC win. Canadian voters seem to frequently vote against the incumbent government, rather than for the opposition.

seems to be the desire for change after the same leader for a long time, liberals had it coming too until Carney took over, a fresh face with a new direction was enough it seems to refresh many voters.

 

[dapaterson]

The CPC failed to let either Scheer or O'Toole have the space to learn and grow. Both one and done. Very LPC behaviour.

 

[daftandbarmy]

The CPC failed to let either Scheer or O'Toole have the space to learn and grow. Both one and done. Very LPC behaviour.

They've clearly all got the same tailor and barber, too

 

[RangerRay]

I don't think he has a chance to win in the long term; his political history is too petty, shortsighted and shallow and he's too aligned with fairly polarizing positions to ever wash off the stink.

Maybe a minority government, if the LPC just implodes but would be as a result of the other guy failing, vice his standalone merit. A lot of his seats were votes against the Trudeau Liberals vice votes for the CPC, and he missed that small window.

I agree. My point was I can’t see him winning unless the government becomes so toxic that he looks good in comparison. I don’t see that happening anytime soon.

 

[HavokFour]

The PM is visiting Norway next week.

Canadian Prime Minister to visit Norway

Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney will be visiting Norway on 13–15 March at the invitation of Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre. On Sunday, the two Prime Ministers will be participating in a Nordic-Canadian summit in Oslo.

www.regjeringen.no

 

[Eaglelord17]

seems to be the desire for change after the same leader for a long time, liberals had it coming too until Carney took over, a fresh face with a new direction was enough it seems to refresh many voters.

Don’t forget the pot vote, that was huge in the 2015 election.

 

[MilEME09]

Don’t forget the pot vote, that was huge in the 2015 election.

So was getting rid of first past the post

 

[YZT580]

Apparently, after


Apparently, when the French-Canadian soldiers landed in France during/after the Normandy landings they had no problems speaking with the locals. Same dialect and everything.

That is no surprise when you consider where France got its recruits for the colonies. England sent Scots, Irish and criminals to staff their colonies. Likewise France sent those from the provinces and the prisons and the poor houses to Quebec. The french they spoke was a distant cousin of the french spoken at court so it is quite likely that the foundations were the same

 

[suffolkowner]

seems to be the desire for change after the same leader for a long time, liberals had it coming too until Carney took over, a fresh face with a new direction was enough it seems to refresh many voters.

a recipe for the future perhaps? Instead of the voters forcing a refresh offer them one instead?