Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Halifax Tar]

True!
Another approach to cover off the EV/Hybirds could be 'add' the user fee tax built into the cost of buying new replacement tires. That way you cover off the EV/Hybrid's.

Pay as you go my friend. That's where I'm at.

 

[Brad Sallows]

This after all the banging he's done about getting projects started.

Every public dollar spent benefits someone.

Some public dollars spent don't benefit enough someones.

$90B is in the region of one-sixth of annual federal spending. This for something that cannot allow for detours in the event of closures of parts of it or made available to other users.

If more economic-boosting infrastructure is wanted, build more roads, which can be used by everyone for purposes private and commercial.

 

[suffolkowner]

if we are building a high speed rail run maybe we should build a practice one from Calgary to Edmonton to work the kinks out? Is there demand?
We used to pay all sorts of fees to the Ministries, no it all goes into general revenue same as the gas tax

 

[Czech_pivo]

Every public dollar spent benefits someone.

Some public dollars spent don't benefit enough someones.

$90B is in the region of one-sixth of annual federal spending. This for something that cannot allow for detours in the event of closures of parts of it or made available to other users.

If more economic-boosting infrastructure is wanted, build more roads, which can be used by everyone for purposes private and commercial.

It represents 1/6 of the annual federal spending for a project that represents a geographical catchment area of what % of the population of Canada? Greater than or less than 1/6 of the population?

As an FYI 1/6th is approximately 7million people.

The Greater Toronto-Hamilton area is 8.3 million people
The Greater Peterbourgh arear is 135.000
The Greater Ottawa area is 1.5 million people
The Greater Montreal area is 4.3 million people
The Greater Trois Rivieres area is 140,000k
The Greater Quebec City area is 866.00 people
Total = 8.3m + 135K + 1.5m 4.3m +886k + 140k = 15.2m

This represents greater than 1/3 of the population of Canada, so its under-represented in terms of annual Federal spending.

EDIT: I missed adding Ottawa into my original calcs and Trois Rivieres.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Every public dollar spent benefits someone.

Some public dollars spent don't benefit enough someones.

$90B is in the region of one-sixth of annual federal spending. This for something that cannot allow for detours in the event of closures of parts of it or made available to other users.

If more economic-boosting infrastructure is wanted, build more roads, which can be used by everyone for purposes private and commercial.

You're missing the best part of the high speed rail. With Poilievere speaking out against it that's 3 solid years of Poilievre-HSR stories dominating the news. HSR will also be a great segue for the F35/Gripen experts to migrate to.

 

[brihard]

You're missing the best part of the high speed rail. With Poilievere speaking out against it that's 3 solid years of Poilievre-HSR stories dominating the news. HSR will also be a great segue for the F35/Gripen experts to migrate to.

It’s a bit of a weird one for him to (n o pun intended) rail against. I suspect some of the narrative will be east vs west stuff, why are the laurentian elites getting a fancy train etc… And obviously it’ll get contrasted to the lack of any pipeline project so long as that remains the case.

 

[Czech_pivo]

It’s a bit of a weird one for him to (n o pun intended) rail against. I suspect some of the narrative will be east vs west stuff, why are the laurentian elites getting a fancy train etc… And obviously it’ll get contrasted to the lack of any pipeline project so long as that remains the case.

Why are 15.3m people in the geographic area getting HSR is the question.

 

[PuckChaser]

You're missing the best part of the high speed rail. With Poilievere speaking out against it that's 3 solid years of Poilievre-HSR stories dominating the news. HSR will also be a great segue for the F35/Gripen experts to migrate to.

Also a great soundbite to distract from Carney refusing to acknowledge his new strategic partner is engaging in forced labour.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Also a great soundbite to distract from Carney refusing to acknowledge his new strategic partner is engaging in forced labour.

When you look at the attention anything Poilievre generates compared to unimportant stuff like foreign interference and ethics around our business practices it's easy to see what Canadians are concerned most over.

 

[Czech_pivo]

It’s a bit of a weird one for him to (n o pun intended) rail against. I suspect some of the narrative will be east vs west stuff, why are the laurentian elites getting a fancy train etc… And obviously it’ll get contrasted to the lack of any pipeline project so long as that remains the case.

LOL - so I just looked at the route of the HSR out of Toronto to Ottawa and then out of Ottawa to the Quebec border - not within the city of Toronto or Ottawa.

1) York Durham - riding is held by a Conservative
2) Pickering - riding is held by a Liberal
3) Haliburton-Kawartha - riding is held by a Conservative
4) Hastings-Lennox - riding is held by a Conservative
5) Lanark-Frontenanc - riding is held by a Conservative
6) Carleton - riding is held by a Conservative
7) Prescott - riding is held by a Conservatie

 

[YZT580]

LOL - so I just looked at the route of the HSR out of Toronto to Ottawa and then out of Ottawa to the Quebec border - not within the city of Toronto or Ottawa.

1) York Durham - riding is held by a Conservative
2) Pickering - riding is held by a Liberal
3) Haliburton-Kawartha - riding is held by a Conservative
4) Hastings-Lennox - riding is held by a Conservative
5) Lanark-Frontenanc - riding is held by a Conservative
6) Carleton - riding is held by a Conservative
7) Prescott - riding is held by a Conservatie

Kingston brought up a valid point. Why wouldn't they build down the current transportation corridor and leave the countryside alone? There is lots of room either side of the 401 to put the rail lines and it services the largest population areas. There is no reason to not move the existing system onto a dedicated line that utilizes the 401 as a base. European lines often combine the high speed and local trains on the same trackage. It simply schedules the slower stuff around the HS and does the passing whilst the locals are sitting in the station. Seems to work. Would save the costs of expropriation and open the system up to a larger audience.