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Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

The trend continues with Nanos. This puts the CPC 3% away from their base starting to erode.

Pragmatism seems to be a key feature politicians in Canada should have.

The only poll that counts is on election day. That may sound trite but I am still waiting for the deliveries and not the speeches. As I wrote earlier, it has been a year and apart from travel miles and signed pieces of paper I haven't seen any deliverables actually in play. There are no pipelines, indigenous are still boiling water and taking possession of more and more of downtown VR without any further oil reaching the coast on either side. The NFLD development owes nothing to Carney and Quebec is still blocking everything proposed eastbound. Companies are still paying the industrial carbon tax. If there is no action on any of the major issues within a year it isn't going to happen and the votes will start going back the other way
 
The only poll that counts is on election day. That may sound trite but I am still waiting for the deliveries and not the speeches. As I wrote earlier, it has been a year and apart from travel miles and signed pieces of paper I haven't seen any deliverables actually in play. There are no pipelines, indigenous are still boiling water and taking possession of more and more of downtown VR without any further oil reaching the coast on either side. The NFLD development owes nothing to Carney and Quebec is still blocking everything proposed eastbound. Companies are still paying the industrial carbon tax. If there is no action on any of the major issues within a year it isn't going to happen and the votes will start going back the other way
Respectfully, I disagree. It was abysmal poling that led to Trudeau stepping down. Wouldn't you say that was a good thing?
 
Hubris is my only explanation. I hate to throw in my hat either certain factions, but perhaps a dismissal the political waste land is what's required to reset things.

Carney's popularity and the LPC staying power is 50% related to #ElbowsUp and #OrangeManBad and 50% related to the socialist bent of this Country. It has nothing to do with Pollievre.

By all metrics, Canada isn't doing particularly well, but.... the majority don't really seem to care. Especially if they continue to get their entitlements and Government handouts.

Canadians have already rejected the Con platform in 2014 when they booted Harper out of office. The message hasn't really changed since then either. The Cons aren't offering anything the average Canadian wants.
 
Alternatively, as time passes more commitments and agreements may turn into delivery and tangible things being built. Which I mean is obviously what we all hope for.
You'd think that would be true, but I get the distinct impression that there are some people that would rather see Carney fail than succeed despite what that implies for Canada.
 
You'd think that would be true, but I get the distinct impression that there are some people that would rather see Carney fail than succeed despite what that implies for Canada.
if they are like me, they only want the country to succeed. I am hoping against hope that are much more than promises coming as a result of Carney taking office. Discussions elsewhere seem to bear out that thought. The 50% for Carney isn't so much anti-Pierre as it is in favour of what he has said he will do. I want to see shovels in the ground, construction centred on developing places like Churchill to ship our produce out, pipelines being laid and factories/refineries being built to process all of our resources. All these things Carney has promised now is the time to start delivering and to stop promising.
 
Lori Idlout, MP for Nunavut, has crossed from the NDP to the LPC.

While the NDP are voting on a new party leader.

Wow! I didn’t expect this one. Attracting defectors from both CPC and NDP is something. And as an indigenous MP for Nunavut she stands to wield some influence on northern and indigenous affairs.

With two hard liberal ridings having by elections this pretty much means liberal majority gov now

Yup. And they may take Terrebonne as well for a safety margin.

How long has it been since we saw four MPs cross the floor to the government in a year?
 
Wow! I didn’t expect this one. Attracting defectors from both CPC and NDP is something. And as an indigenous MP for Nunavut she stands to wield some influence on northern and indigenous affairs.


Yup. And they may take Terrebonne as well for a safety margin.

How long has it been since we saw four MPs cross the floor to the government in a year?
Four MPs cross so far...
 
And from the latest "come on down!!!!!!!!!" incumbent :)
 
And from the latest "come on down!!!!!!!!!" incumbent :)
A pick up a BQ member or two and Carney can label this a 'Coalition or Unity' Government, lol.
 
A pick up a BQ member or two and Carney can label this a 'Coalition or Unity' Government, lol.
Never say never, anything is possible, I am loving the conservatives melting down over this even further. Yet laugh because some of those barking the loudest would lose their seats at current polling if an election was called.
 
right now this is the best thing that can happen. Carney has his majority and there is no need for an election. Government can continue unhindered. The libs have already based many of their actions on "conservative" concepts. If the cons can only concentrate on improving rather than opposing they should be able to regain their support when the liberals don't deliver as well as their rhetoric says they will.
 
right now this is the best thing that can happen. Carney has his majority and there is no need for an election. Government can continue unhindered. The libs have already based many of their actions on "conservative" concepts. If the cons can only concentrate on improving rather than opposing they should be able to regain their support when the liberals don't deliver as well as their rhetoric says they will.
your plan assumes the liberals fail, if they succeed the CPC will have a hard time gaining support back. We already see in the polling a massive urban/rural divide
 
Never say never, anything is possible, I am loving the conservatives melting down over this even further. Yet laugh because some of those barking the loudest would lose their seats at current polling if an election was called.

The outrage is getting overtly performative, 2018 provided a lot of material.

"A politician who crosses the aisle, has shown tremendous courage in putting their principles first."


Although a very tepid reaction from Pierre, not a whole lot he can do after saying he doesn't want an election right now.

 
I don't like it. A thin LPC majority shifts influence from a hypothetical CPC willing to play ball and gives it to the malcontents/zealots within the LPC tent, which encourages the CPC to lean harder into oppositional theatre rather than collaboration.
 
The outrage is getting overtly performative, 2018 provided a lot of material.

"A politician who crosses the aisle, has shown tremendous courage in putting their principles first."


Although a very tepid reaction from Pierre, not a whole lot he can do after saying he doesn't want an election right now.

Big words from a guy voters rejected…
 
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