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Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

We will see some new dealerships and makers pop up perhaps eh ?
Will be interesting to see Trumps reaction to this.
The auto sector will have their feathers ruffled by this - 49,000 can easily be 99,000 within 5yrs and that’s then about 10% of the CDN market share.
 
Will be interesting to see Trumps reaction to this.
The auto sector will have their feathers ruffled by this - 49,000 can easily be 99,000 within 5yrs and that’s then about 10% of the CDN market share.

I think this is a position where we can tell them to go pound sand. They don't get to have their cake and eat it too. If they want access the Canadian auto market they have to let autos get built here.
 
Will be interesting to see Trumps reaction to this.
The auto sector will have their feathers ruffled by this - 49,000 can easily be 99,000 within 5yrs and that’s then about 10% of the CDN market share.
BBC is covering this and indicates that Ireland, Germany, South Korea and England are all headed to China soon and this deal may be the example used by them and others in shifting things.

 
I think this is a position where we can tell them to go pound sand. They don't get to have their cake and eat it too. If they want access the Canadian auto market they have to let autos get built here.
At the 5% mark it’s not an issue, over 10% and it becomes a case of, ‘you really should start building your car here.’
I think that is the argument that we are proposing to the Koreans. You’ve established your here to the point that we really should start building your cars here - in others words, it’s time to put a ring on that finger son.
The Dodge Charger, built in Windsor, just won the North American Car of the Year Award at the Detroit Auto Show. Quite a coup for Chrysler and for Canada. The two remaining US car companies do not want to leave Canada. In the past when I was involved in a small way in Chrysler, their plant in Windsor consistly ranked in the top 2 or 3 in terms for quality for all their plants across the world. I’m not sure if that hold true today, but I think that it does. Our vehicles built here have an overall higher quality then those built in the US, scrapping the plants here and moving them to the US means that their quality overall will fall and as a result so will there sales.
 
Looks like a deal with China has been made.


Oh this is right on par with this government.

Just google “chinese autos spyware” for a good glimpse of what many other countries have discovered and what they're doing about it. Due to cost, and the electrical mandate, how many of these do you think will find there way into government service?

Well done!
 
Will be interesting to see Trumps reaction to this.
The auto sector will have their feathers ruffled by this - 49,000 can easily be 99,000 within 5yrs and that’s then about 10% of the CDN market share.

Mexico seems to be doing fine, I haven't heard a single peep from him about the growing Chinese EV market there. I believe their tariff on them is only 50%.
 
Oh this is right on par with this government.

Just google “chinese autos spyware” for a good glimpse of what many other countries have discovered and what they're doing about it. Due to cost, and the electrical mandate, how many of these do you think will find there way into government service?

Well done!
Google, Facebook, Apple and others know your daily routine, what your interests are, etc and sell that on the open market for advertisers, on top of a lot of people already posting their lives all over public social media.

I'd be far more worried about what's on a cell phone that always have on you than some cars, and frankly probably would get a lot less data than what those companies already are selling about you
 
Oh this is right on par with this government.

Just google “chinese autos spyware” for a good glimpse of what many other countries have discovered and what they're doing about it. Due to cost, and the electrical mandate, how many of these do you think will find there way into government service?

Well done!
I share the info/cybersecurity concern. I’m not particularly concerned we’ll acquire them for government fleets, but I hope either way that CSE is all over this.

Cars are computers with cameras and SIM cards and wifi and Bluetooth modems and antennas. Incidentally they also have wheels and can go places. We already know China’s domestic national security laws obligate companies to cooperate fully with the state on national security matters, and that this poses info security concerns.

We already have at least one case of a Chinese security camera company ordered to shut down in Canada and leave the country over our own national security concerns after an Investment Canada Act review.


Now those assessments will involve classified intelligence material that the rest of us don’t get to know about. But if we’re banning a static security camera company, that tells me there’s already something really hinky that, presumably, CSE has figured out and assessed.

So, valid to have concerns.
 
I find it refreshing when things I say for months the PM should do suddenly happen.
You ever played any sports? Ever fought in a combat sport? When your in the middle of a game or a match, when the advantage starts going your way, you don't get cocky and prematurely overconfident about a not yet achieved victory.

Literally, your showing over eagerness. Your counting your eggs before they hatch. Nothing concrete yet and this whole thing stinks. We don't need Chinese state media have free access to our nation.

Thats just the start. You think this going to do us any real favours? We are going to pay dearly for getting in bed with the devil.

I'll take Trump anyday over CCP.


BTW, it may seem refreshing to you that you think your right, but you have been wrong about many things in the past.

Me? Hell I know I am wrong at times and right at others, I am humble enough to admit I know what opinions are vs facts.

I'm just waiting for the Gripen announcement now.
You mean the Chinese J-35 now instead of the F35 or Gripen or any other euro options.
 
Google, Facebook, Apple and others know your daily routine, what your interests are, etc and sell that on the open market for advertisers, on top of a lot of people already posting their lives all over public social media.

I'd be far more worried about what's on a cell phone that always have on you than some cars, and frankly probably would get a lot less data than what those companies already are selling about you



It’s certainly a thing and they all do it. The fact that Nissan knows everything about my car without me even having to go in is disconcerting but sadly a reality.
 
You ever played any sports? Ever fought in a combat sport? When your in the middle of a game or a match, when the advantage starts going your way, you don't get cocky and prematurely overconfident about a not yet achieved victory.
This would make sense if I was an active participant. I'm just an observer on the sidelines. So I'll cheer all I want.
Literally, your showing over eagerness. Your counting your eggs before they hatch. Nothing concrete yet and this whole thing stinks. We don't need Chinese state media have free access to our nation.
Canola tariffs going down. I see this as a win.
Thats just the start. You think this going to do us any real favours? We are going to pay dearly for getting in bed with the devil.
We are opening the market to cars.
I'll take Trump anyday over CCP.
Turns out, when it comes to being hostile to a nearby smaller island nation, there is little difference between the two.

But I've always maintained, we cannot fight the Chinese and the Americans at the same time. If the Americans wanted to work with us, sure, we could fight the Chinese. But if the Americans are putting the screws to us, and the Chinese are willing to make a deal, well, Chinese it is.
BTW, it may seem refreshing to you that you think your right, but you have been wrong about many things in the past.
I said drop EV tariffs and have the Chinese drop canola tariffs.

Carney did just that.

Seems I was right.
Me? Hell I know I am wrong at times and right at others, I am humble enough to admit I know what opinions are vs facts.


You mean the Chinese J-35 now instead of the F35 or Gripen or any other euro options.
I don't know how buying a few cars equates to buying the J35.

I'm firmly team Gripen.
 
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