Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Navy_Pete]

I recall reading somewhere that most (if not all?) the Chinese EV's that were imported by Canada before the 100% tariffs went into effect were Teslas built in China.

From ChatGPT:

That was pre-DOGE where Musk became kryptonite and also when there was large rebates generally on EVs.

The EV rebates not getting renewed, or being cut on Tesla specifically hurt their existing sales a lot, but I think the export will be focused on lower cost EVs.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out, as I'm sure China will control who gets to export what, and Musk didn't exactly make friends with them either

 

[ArmyRick]

Vertical farming enters the chat:


B.C. entrepreneurs see sky as limit for vertical farming

Indoor farming expected to grow as dominant source for leafy greens in next decade

Up Vertical Farms launched production in March at its fully automated, custom-built, vertical-farming facility in Pitt Meadows.

Brothers Shahram and Bahram Rashti founded and financed the multimillion-dollar operation that is in a 50,000-square-foot building on 10 acres of ALR land, and they designed the company’s equipment, CEO Bahram Rashti told BIV.

https://www.biv.com/news/resources-agriculture/bc-entrepreneurs-see-sky-limit-vertical-farming-8271212

Vertical farming has some strengths and LOTS of limitations. The first big one is it is very ENERGY intensive. It does have its uses, especially in areas where you can capture excellent sunlight. Its another tool in the tool box.

The way forward for farming in my view (You knew what I do as a side hustle), is expand and exploit the winter hardy ruminants. You can literally live on a diet of pure beef, bison, sheep, goat and venison.

Chickens and eggs are a god send for extra and easy (and beyond sustainable protein), as well as a hidden treasure, winter hardy geese and ducks. Add in winter tolerant pigs for pork. BOOOOM! Humans do NOT need excess carbs, FATs , yes fats and proteins from animals should make up 70-95% of the diet. Toss in some good quality fish like cod, salmon, char, trout and whitefish as well,. And if you can, get green wave supported oysters, clams, mussels and kelp.

 

[foresterab]

Everytime someone talks vertical farming I keep thinking - go to Leamington, Ontario.

From a random image found via Google..


But what is more important is the scale:

I've only seen such large greenhouses in two industries....the canning plants in/around Leamington. And pot growing facilities.

Unfortunately it's also not all positives as many residents complain about the light polution:

Every night this is your sky. A different challenge for sure.

 

[Maxman1]

Tech for tech's sake.

If it ain't broke, fix it til it is.

 

[Maxman1]

Everytime someone talks vertical farming I keep thinking - go to Leamington, Ontario.

From a random image found via Google..
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But what is more important is the scale:
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I've only seen such large greenhouses in two industries....the canning plants in/around Leamington. And pot growing facilities.

Unfortunately it's also not all positives as many residents complain about the light polution:
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Every night this is your sky. A different challenge for sure.

There's one near Camp Labrie. All night it looks like the sun is setting, in the wrong direction.

 

[AmmoTech90]

Redcliff has greenhouses, so does Medicine Hat. They produce Feb to end of November. December and January they renew their growing medium and do maintenance. We also have a 1 million square foot weed greenhouse that never produced weed. The company over estimated demand. Part of it is used for growing flowers. The veggie greenhouse operations look similar to the Leamington ones, very vertical.

Here's a large one just south of Medicine Hat, across the river, Big Marble Farms, and two others. Big Marble operates year round, supplies Costco across the West.

 

[AmmoTech90]

The Redcliff/Medicine Hat green houses are a fairly big operation, as is Leamington. But I drove by the greenhouses in the Hook of Holland in May, mostly flowers. The Dutch don't mess around, growing, packaging, and shipping all next to each other.


Edit: Apologies for the greenhouse hook in a politics thread.

 

[foresterab]

Redcliff has greenhouses, so does Medicine Hat. They produce Feb to end of November. December and January they renew their growing medium and do maintenance. We also have a 1 million square foot weed greenhouse that never produced weed. The company over estimated demand. Part of it is used for growing flowers. The veggie greenhouse operations look similar to the Leamington ones, very vertical.View attachment 98134

Here's a large one just south of Medicine Hat, across the river, Big Marble Farms, and two others. Big Marble operates year round, supplies Costco across the West.
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Thanks AmmoTech90

I haven't been down to "the Hat" for 30 years...stuck up north passing the Weed greenhouses by Edmonton. But a good reminder that what might new to one area of the country is old news to others.

Frankly the more of this sort of product we can grow internal to Canada the better....as long as we also don't follow the great Canadian tradition of allowing 2-3 companies dominate the market. I'd rather see Canada be in a position to fill Canadian demand and maybe, just maybe...in future international demand. Something to offset US water shortages or Mexico cartel growing operations.

 

[dapaterson]

Everytime someone talks vertical farming I keep thinking - go to Leamington, Ontario.

From a random image found via Google..
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But what is more important is the scale:
View attachment 98130
I've only seen such large greenhouses in two industries....the canning plants in/around Leamington. And pot growing facilities.

Unfortunately it's also not all positives as many residents complain about the light polution:
View attachment 98131
Every night this is your sky. A different challenge for sure.

 

[MilEME09]

South Korea coming to save our steel industry

South Korean submarine maker signs MOU with Algoma Steel

In its bid to win the massive contract to build Canada’s next generation of submarines, South Korea’s Hanwha Ocean is entering into a long-term strategic arrangement with Algoma Steel, which could result in some parts of the submarines being manufactured in Ontario.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[brihard]

South Korea coming to save our steel industry

South Korean submarine maker signs MOU with Algoma Steel

In its bid to win the massive contract to build Canada’s next generation of submarines, South Korea’s Hanwha Ocean is entering into a long-term strategic arrangement with Algoma Steel, which could result in some parts of the submarines being manufactured in Ontario.

www.ctvnews.ca

Well that's pretty great. Hanwha is really pulling out all the stops to sweeten the deal and stimulate our industrial sector.

I still don't understand the random billboard I saw advertising their submarines while driving through Vanier, but hey, I'm no advertising exec.

 

[HavokFour]

Well that's pretty great. Hanwha is really pulling out all the stops to sweeten the deal and stimulate our industrial sector.

I still don't understand the random billboard I saw advertising their submarines while driving through Vanier, but hey, I'm no advertising exec.

Seen lots of Hanwha ads all around Ottawa (apparently there are even ads all the way out in Victoria too!). Even a handful of TKMS and SAAB, but not near as much.

I'm even getting ads for them via digital services.

 

[HavokFour]

Wow, talk about a complete turn around. Ford has been let in on the plan.

Doug Ford calls federal auto strategy ‘great’ and says Ontario will be part of it after meeting with Carney and Joly

Ontario Premier Doug Ford appears to have had a change of heart when it comes to the federal government’s auto strategy after hearing more about it from federal officials.

www.cp24.com

 

[RangerRay]

Wow, talk about a complete turn around. Ford has been let in on the plan.

Doug Ford calls federal auto strategy ‘great’ and says Ontario will be part of it after meeting with Carney and Joly

Ontario Premier Doug Ford appears to have had a change of heart when it comes to the federal government’s auto strategy after hearing more about it from federal officials.

www.cp24.com

Now can we get him to stop boycotting Crown Royal distilled in Manitoba?

 

[Altair]

Wow, talk about a complete turn around. Ford has been let in on the plan.

Doug Ford calls federal auto strategy ‘great’ and says Ontario will be part of it after meeting with Carney and Joly

Ontario Premier Doug Ford appears to have had a change of heart when it comes to the federal government’s auto strategy after hearing more about it from federal officials.

www.cp24.com

Something something build your dream auto plants

 

[Jarnhamar]

Carney walked back Davos comments in call with Trump, US treasury chief says

I wonder if Carney apologized, or the Treasury chief is lying.

 

[Haggis]

Carney walked back Davos comments in call with Trump, US treasury chief says

I wonder if Carney apologized, or the Treasury chief is lying.

My bet is that the conversation was mostly one-sided and that an apology was demanded. Whether it was delivered, I don't know. But given the US administration has played fast and loose with the truth in the past, I'll give it a doubt.

 

[HavokFour]

Carney walked back Davos comments in call with Trump, US treasury chief says

I wonder if Carney apologized, or the Treasury chief is lying.

Bessent isn't someone anyone should take what they at face value.

‘I meant what I said:’ PM Carney stands by Davos speech despite U.S. claims

Prime Minister Mark Carney is standing by his speech at the World Economic Forum last week, despite claims from U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration that he “aggressively” walked back some of his comments during a phone call.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Deleted member 175000]

My bet is that the conversation was mostly one-sided and that an apology was demanded. Whether it was delivered, I don't know. But given the US administration has played fast and loose with the truth in the past, I'll give it a doubt.

One persons "aggressively walked back" is another's "placated with hollow diplo-speak"

 

[brihard]

My bet is that the conversation was mostly one-sided and that an apology was demanded. Whether it was delivered, I don't know. But given the US administration has played fast and loose with the truth in the past, I'll give it a doubt.

Indeed. Until and unless I see a transcript confirming it, I put zero weight to Bessent’s characterization.