Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???
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Make him Housing Minister…could he really do worse than a previous Housing Minister we know…
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He is absolutely despised in most of Western Canada- in fairness all Eastern politicians are— but I suspect many would vote PPC or even Liberal than vote for Ford.
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Public safety minister and walk back some of the firearms stuff.Make him Housing Minister…could he really do worse than a previous Housing Minister we know…
Honestly if the Liberals changed their stance on firearms at this point they would have my vote and this is as someone who has only voted Conservative in my life.
Carney has done a good job pivoting them back to the center and with the Conservatives increasingly abandoning it I know where my vote would go.
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Not sure that will happen with Nathalie Prevost in their caucus, but I agree the sentiment. I was a prairie-DNA PC-since 18yoa, and after the great Alliance-PC deal reneg of Harper and consistent swing well further and further from center-right where my loyalty lay, I moved on. Martin and Carney were/are red-enough Grits, that I was okay with them. I tried some libertarian-like options because I couldn’t handle JT’s arrogance/smugness/narcissism. I don’t believe either in the cowardly use of OsIC to hand off responsibility of gun control to unelected (and this, directly unaccountable to citizenry) people, nor to potential unchangeable laws to cement the non-legislative prohibitions enacted through use of existing OsIC.
That’s a pretty wide brush…so ALL private sectors?
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The investor reliant tech sector is exiting the country.
Canadian resident inventors and innovators file on average 10 percent fewer applications for patents in the 5 years and last year might have filed 40 percent fewer (still waiting for that report).
Canadian technology innovators start more businesses outside of Canada than inside and that’s by a very wide margin.
Food prices are up and food sales per measured item are way down- demand for food per capita is down for the first time since 1982.
Activity in the Canadian financial sector is nose diving especially Fintech.
Real estate is I don’t know what to even call it.
Commercial construction has fallen off line. Equipment sales are tanking.
Equipment repairs are flattening because parts are expensive relative to declining incomes and profit margins.
Canadians start more business outside of the country than in it.
I mean it’s good for me and probably a lot of you but not a good place to be a young man or woman looking to start a career, especially to start a business.
If you take out business that receive no touch point with government subsidies or procurement then it is in serious decline.
A situation that did not exist 12 years ago with another US President who had a Buy American fetish.
Almost all of Canadas economic problems existed prior to Donald Trump. He just lit the match, or keeps threatening to anyway.
People looking to Carney to solve that are few and far between because he can’t until the whole economy crashes. Best he can do is life support it for a while. That’s why he keeps talking about “sacrifices”. Not his sacrifices - those are for other people.
Canadian resident inventors and innovators file on average 10 percent fewer applications for patents in the 5 years and last year might have filed 40 percent fewer (still waiting for that report).
Canadian technology innovators start more businesses outside of Canada than inside and that’s by a very wide margin.
Food prices are up and food sales per measured item are way down- demand for food per capita is down for the first time since 1982.
Activity in the Canadian financial sector is nose diving especially Fintech.
Real estate is I don’t know what to even call it.
Commercial construction has fallen off line. Equipment sales are tanking.
Equipment repairs are flattening because parts are expensive relative to declining incomes and profit margins.
Canadians start more business outside of the country than in it.
I mean it’s good for me and probably a lot of you but not a good place to be a young man or woman looking to start a career, especially to start a business.
If you take out business that receive no touch point with government subsidies or procurement then it is in serious decline.
A situation that did not exist 12 years ago with another US President who had a Buy American fetish.
Almost all of Canadas economic problems existed prior to Donald Trump. He just lit the match, or keeps threatening to anyway.
People looking to Carney to solve that are few and far between because he can’t until the whole economy crashes. Best he can do is life support it for a while. That’s why he keeps talking about “sacrifices”. Not his sacrifices - those are for other people.
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I am private sector. I am in a sector directly effected by Trumps tariffs, to the point my industry would be dead without direct government intervention.
Liberal or Conservative isn’t changing that situation, the problem isn’t in our borders, it is in our neighbours.
If the Conservatives are delusional enough to believe that they would have somehow made a ‘good deal’ I have a bridge to sell you…
CPC probably have the vote margin in the west to weather that just fine. CPC could run damn near anyone and dominate the prairies. If Ford strengthened their position in the major eastern and pacific urban areas, he could potentially deliver a government if conditions were right.
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He switched from "folks" .
Campaign Notebook: Doug Ford likes folks, ‘authentic’ supporter wants you to know
Ford likes folks so much, in fact, that prankster Michael Dunbar Jr. created an entire campaign to mock how often he mentions them when he speaks
nationalpost.com
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We already gave away half of it...
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By “we” you mean the PM who signed the agreement with the Michigan Governor in………checks calendar…….2012?
Eeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... does the flat hand wavey thingy
Maaaayyyybbbbeeeee...
I guess weirder things have happened
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The Royal We. I am not a fan of hailing and condemning every action at the feet of whoever was PM at the time.
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I’d vote for Carney’s party out here if he put forth a good candidate who would resign or sit as an independent the very moment they order him to vote in favour of silly things that the government intends on doing if they have a majority. But I would never vote for Ford as a CPC leader and would not vote CPC if he became leader.
I’ve written to Dominic Cardy twice to have him come out here and host a town hall. We need new, non crazy train options.
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Did they give away half or loan half in exchange for repayments via a share of tolls. I read different things about that… it sounds like the mafia family/private owner of the other existing bridge wants a shake down equity stake in Michigan’s part which not going to happen.
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Ford’s success is mostly due to underwhelming competition not great skill.
Personally I dislike the guy, and I couldn’t be happier if his corrupt ass got kicked to the curb. That being said I don’t see another somewhat viable alternative and until I do, I shall not vote in the Ontario elections again.
With how bad the Ontario Liberals were when Ford got elected, the reality is a rock could have ran, gotten a majority AND done a better job.
Realistically Federally we were in basically the same situation with Trudeau vs PP. It would have been a landslide victory if Trudeau stayed on. The key difference was there was no Carney to save the Ontario Liberals.
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Never heard the CPC say as an official party position that they could or even would get a better deal. I did hear Carney say that he would. In fact he campaigned on it, and is still campaigning on it.
I did, however, hear the CPC say they would stop the stupid rules and policies that drive businesses out of Canada and into other countries primarily the US.
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'Great deal:' Pierre Poilievre makes energy pitch to Trump
Pierre Poilievre says he could increase Canada’s exports to the U.S. and strike a “great deal” with Donald Trump. Find out more.
financialpost.com
‘Pierre Poilievre — the Conservative leader who is the front-runner to beat Trudeau’s party in the next election — says he could increase Canada’s exports to the U.S. and strike a “great deal” with Trump anyway.’
‘His plan includes a push to renegotiate the trade deal with the U.S. as soon as possible’
Both campaigned on it. Both understand that for a agreement to be made both have to barter in good faith. Unfortunately the States isn’t, and based on how they have been acting with agreements made with other countries they aren’t reliable.
Wanting a good deal and being able to achieve it are two very different things. Time is on our side currently, I wouldn’t rush into any poor deal because there is a very good chance Trump will lose the midterms and even ignoring that, their supreme court rulings can change a lot.
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Canada funded the MI "half share" of the bridge because MI legislators would not. When Canada recovers that "loan" from tolls, the toll revenues are to be equally shared.
Irrespective of what Trump or Maroun wants, the acceptance of funding from a foreign government by an executive wanting to bypass a legislature is a wrinkle that some people want to explore. It may not seem a big deal to most people, including most people here, but the idea that executives can't bypass legislators on supply is a sensitive issue in the US. Doesn't matter whether it's airplanes or bridges.
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Don't pin too much hope on midterms. Democrats might win only the House. They might win House and Senate, but not with a 60-vote supermajority to overcome filibusters in the latter (a highly unlikely outcome), in which case much of their legislation won't go anywhere. If they got all that or changed the filibuster rule to simple majority, it's even more unlikely that they could override a presidential veto without Republican support. (For a party to change the filibuster rule when it doesn't occupy the WH would be insanely futile.) Expect House Democrats to do their usual - pass a large number of bills that have no hope of going anywhere, just to be able to say "Republicans are against X".
As some Democratic pundits have been warning (based on what's happened before), if the party wins the House and goes on another impotent ideological tear, they could easily throw away any hope of winning the presidency in 2028.
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