Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[captloadie]

I get the hostility towards China, as they go beyond trying to just control former Chinese citizens living abroad, and putting down dissent/criticism.
India is a more interesting case. Why are we really mad at them? Because they assassinated what they deemed a threat on Cdn soil and got caught right? I'm sure the US, Israel, and Russia have done the same, and have just done it better and quieter. Hell Israel loves using Canadian passports to get in and out of places on kill missions.

All that to say is as a sovereign nation, we should be exploiting our trade advantages whenever and wherever we can.

 

[MilEME09]

China lowering tariffs on canadian products

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-02-27/china-halts-canada-canola-meal-tariffs-adding-to-trade-thaw

 

[Jarnhamar]

India is a more interesting case. Why are we really mad at them? Because they assassinated what they deemed a threat on Cdn soil and got caught right?

"Threat" is subjective here. They murdered an activist.

Canadian law-enforcement (including RCMP) have warned about other cases of Sikh activists being intimidated and threatened. In some cases the threats were credible enough where they received official "duty to warn" notices from police.

RCMP and other Canadian agencies linked violent activity by organized crime groups, notably the Bishnoi gang, to Indian (government) interests. Those include extortion, shootings, murder-for-hire, and other criminal violence. [The Bishnoi gang being designated a terrorist entity here because of it's involvement in intimidation and crime]. Authorities have suggested the gang is acting on behalf of the Indian government in targeting certain individuals and communities.


Foreign interference and coercion is an issue too where establish sources said Indian diplomats and agents are using clandestine activities to collect information on Canada's South Asian community. Recall our current government bent over backwards going out of their way to try and wave off any investigation and action into foreign interference.

All that to say is as a sovereign nation, we should be exploiting our trade advantages whenever and wherever we can.

We can engage with India in trade without chalking their behavior up to everyone does it, big deal. The Liberal government is saying India's garbage behavior is all cleaned up, I'd like to see the receipts on that. I prefer not to see Canada turned into a proxy battleground for all these other countries drama, or give them a bunch of in-roads to our Parliament.

 

[RangerRay]

Does this mean we are finally taking India’s concerns seriously after 40 years of politely telling them to pound sand?

It would be nice if our government took Beijing’s threat to our national security seriously.

 

[GR66]

The US and China are the two largest economies in the World. Short of open war breaking out of course we're going to do business with them...just as they do business with each other. Does that mean we're "besties"? No. Does it mean that we ignore the things they do that are in their self interest that conflicts with our own self interest? Again, No.

We should trade with them but at the same time we should seek to diversify to protect ourselves from excessive risk if relations turn worse. We should also make domestic policy decisions to protect our own strategic interests/industries and limit as much as possible any foreign interference at home.

As far as India goes, absolutely they (and the Chinese among others) have been caught doing things on Canadian soil that are unacceptable to Canadians. The main problem that I see is that PM JT chose to out India in the murder in the most public way possible. This after the debacle that was PM JT's trip to India and the soft support of Sikh separatists in Canada. He embarrassed Modi publicly when if overall relations were somewhat better things could have been handled less in public and more behind closed doors. There would have been diplomats sent home, trade negotiations stalled, visits cancelled and strong words in private without having to go nuclear and basically calling another head of state a murderer.

 

[YZT580]

The US and China are the two largest economies in the World. Short of open war breaking out of course we're going to do business with them...just as they do business with each other. Does that mean we're "besties"? No. Does it mean that we ignore the things they do that are in their self interest that conflicts with our own self interest? Again, No.

We should trade with them but at the same time we should seek to diversify to protect ourselves from excessive risk if relations turn worse. We should also make domestic policy decisions to protect our own strategic interests/industries and limit as much as possible any foreign interference at home.

As far as India goes, absolutely they (and the Chinese among others) have been caught doing things on Canadian soil that are unacceptable to Canadians. The main problem that I see is that PM JT chose to out India in the murder in the most public way possible. This after the debacle that was PM JT's trip to India and the soft support of Sikh separatists in Canada. He embarrassed Modi publicly when if overall relations were somewhat better things could have been handled less in public and more behind closed doors. There would have been diplomats sent home, trade negotiations stalled, visits cancelled and strong words in private without having to go nuclear and basically calling another head of state a murderer.

true but we don't have to allow them to buy "us". Our products certainly but not the resources behind them

 

[Czech_pivo]

"Threat" is subjective here. They murdered an activist.

Canadian law-enforcement (including RCMP) have warned about other cases of Sikh activists being intimidated and threatened. In some cases the threats were credible enough where they received official "duty to warn" notices from police.

RCMP and other Canadian agencies linked violent activity by organized crime groups, notably the Bishnoi gang, to Indian (government) interests. Those include extortion, shootings, murder-for-hire, and other criminal violence. [The Bishnoi gang being designated a terrorist entity here because of it's involvement in intimidation and crime]. Authorities have suggested the gang is acting on behalf of the Indian government in targeting certain individuals and communities.


Foreign interference and coercion is an issue too where establish sources said Indian diplomats and agents are using clandestine activities to collect information on Canada's South Asian community. Recall our current government bent over backwards going out of their way to try and wave off any investigation and action into foreign interference.




We can engage with India in trade without chalking their behavior up to everyone does it, big deal. The Liberal government is saying India's garbage behavior is all cleaned up, I'd like to see the receipts on that. I prefer not to see Canada turned into a proxy battleground for all these other countries drama, or give them a bunch of in-roads to our Parliament.

Was he an 'activist' or a 'separatist'?

One person's Freedom Fighter (activist) is another person's Terrorist (separatist).

 

[Halifax Tar]

Canada’s global performance rankings are in freefall

Is Canada actually doing better than Alabama? That’s the wrong question

thehub.ca

 

[Good2Golf]

You might be on to something, further down the page.

Smith sitting at -60%.


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Am I the only one wondering how BC’s Premier Eby scored as high as he did?

What about normalizing trade to pre-Meng Wanzhou levels makes them besties? Especially when our largest customer, who stabbed us in the back in said case, has decided to self-immolate?

Source of the Huawei and original 100% EV tariffs ‘be a good little one and follow daddy’s lead….’

India is a more interesting case. Why are we really mad at them? Because they assassinated what they deemed a threat on Cdn soil and got caught right? I'm sure the US, Israel, and Russia have done the same, and have just done it better and quieter. Hell Israel loves using Canadian passports to get in and out of places on kill missions.

As far as India goes, absolutely they (and the Chinese among others) have been caught doing things on Canadian soil that are unacceptable to Canadians. The main problem that I see is that PM JT chose to out India in the murder in the most public way possible. This after the debacle that was PM JT's trip to India and the soft support of Sikh separatists in Canada. He embarrassed Modi publicly when if overall relations were somewhat better things could have been handled less in public and more behind closed doors. There would have been diplomats sent home, trade negotiations stalled, visits cancelled and strong words in private without having to go nuclear and basically calling another head of state a murderer.

I doubt the Indian government apparatus that green-lit murdering a Canadian citizen(s) on Canadian soil changed and cut ties with all their shady activities. That's all I mean.

Some Canadians may forget India’s calculus…the culturally-Sikh Khalistani separatist movement in the Punjab. A Sikh bodyguard assassinated PM Indira Ghandi. Years later Sikhs associated with Khalistani terrorist organization Barbara Khalsa were both convicted and acquitted of charges related to killing 329 people, 268 of them Canadian, in the 1985 bombing of Air India flight 182. One Sikh Canadian was convicted in the bombing, however, two were acquitted for insufficient evidence. One of those acquitted was Ripudaman Singh Malik (accused as the financier of the entire bombing), the Indian-Canadian later killed in 2022. Air India flight 182

 

[daftandbarmy]

Am I the only one wondering how BC’s Premier Eby scored as high as he did?

My guess is that's an indicator the 'bread and circuses' strategy is working well in Vancouver ..

 

[RangerRay]

My guess is that's an indicator the 'bread and circuses' strategy is working well in Vancouver ..

Or they are being compared to the clown car opposition.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Does this mean we are finally taking India’s concerns seriously after 40 years of politely telling them to pound sand?

Depends who you ask

Minister says security issues remain with India after federal official says interference has stopped

Public Safety Minister Gary Anandasangaree said there are still "outstanding" security issues with India.

nationalpost.com

Indian foreign interference ‘continuing,’ say Liberal MPs | Globalnews.ca

A senior government official's claim that India had halted targeting Canadians faces pushback.

globalnews.ca

Canada can't brush aside security concerns about India, ex-intelligence adviser warns

OTTAWA — A former national security and intelligence adviser to the federal government says it “strains credibility” to suggest India has stopped harmful meddling in Canadian affairs. Vincent Rigby, who now teaches at McGill University, said Canada needs to strike a balance between poking India...

toronto.citynews.ca

Anand won't say if Ottawa believes India still engaged in foreign interference

MUMBAI — Foreign Affairs Minister Anita Anand is refusing to answer questions about whether the government believes India is still engaged in foreign interference.

www.thealbertan.com

It would be nice if our government took Beijing’s threat to our national security seriously.

100%

 

[brihard]

Bear in mind that India and China are strategic rivals with significantly overlapping spheres of influence. Our issues with India are likely to be more manageable and transient than those we have with China. I have no idea and can’t speak to how significant the security issues with India still are, but it’s in Canada’s long term national interest to try to resolve them. India is likely to be a much more tolerable trading partner and a more palatable strategic player to us than China. We at least have shared Commonwealth history, which while not necessarily much, also isn’t nothing. India is a flawed democracy with significant internal issues. It’s quite different in character from China.

 

[RedFive]

Bear in mind that India and China are strategic rivals with significantly overlapping spheres of influence. Our issues with India are likely to be more manageable and transient than those we have with China. I have no idea and can’t speak to how significant the security issues with India still are, but it’s in Canada’s long term national interest to try to resolve them. India is likely to be a much more tolerable trading partner and a more palatable strategic player to us than China. We at least have shared Commonwealth history, which while not necessarily much, also isn’t nothing. India is a flawed democracy with significant internal issues. It’s quite different in character from China.

I think the key to re-aligning ourselves with India relations is to stop being a repository for their separatist movement. That mean decisive and ultimately politically ugly action here in Canada.

 

[Eaglelord17]

I think the key to re-aligning ourselves with India relations is to stop being a repository for their separatist movement. That mean decisive and ultimately politically ugly action here in Canada.

There is this little thing called rights which gets in the way of what your describing.

 

[MilEME09]

Significant in the trade world

https://twitter.com/x/status/2027952659462820008

 

[Halifax Tar]

Hubris is my only explanation. I hate to throw in my hat either certain factions, but perhaps a dismissal the political waste land is what's required to reset things.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2027833518907089254

 

[HavokFour]

Hubris is my only explanation. I hate to throw in my hat either certain factions, but perhaps a dismissal the political waste land is what's required to reset things.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2027833518907089254

On a related note, and a surprising one.

Canada should not have an election before reviewing CUSMA trade deal, says Poilievre​

I'm also getting the feeling he really didn't like what Jivani did earlier.

When asked whether he's considered going to Washington, Poilievre said he "always believed in the rule of one prime minister at a time."

"And what I wanted to allow was for the government of the day to have enough room to operate and negotiate on behalf of Canada. And I never wanted our country to be divided," Poilievre said.

 

[brihard]

On a related note, and a surprising one.

Canada should not have an election before reviewing CUSMA trade deal, says Poilievre​

I'm also getting the feeling he really didn't like what Jivani did earlier.

He knows if he loses another election he’s done. There’s a real likelihood election now or soon would cement an LPC majority, and not by a seat or two.

 

[Halifax Tar]

On a related note, and a surprising one.

Canada should not have an election before reviewing CUSMA trade deal, says Poilievre​

I'm also getting the feeling he really didn't like what Jivani did earlier.

If I was PP I wouldn't want an election right now either.

1) Time is not on PMMC or the LPCs side. And election with a landside victory for the LPC give them more of it. So PP needs to prolong this Gov.

2) He knows he's a cooked chicken if (when) he looses an election called with the current polling.