Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[The Bread Guy]

Just look at these forums. If you criticize Carney you get dog piled. If you support Carney you get dog piled.

Dog piling is one thing, and if done in a civil manner, good to go - and I've been less than civil myself from time to time. It's the "if you're not with me, you're irredeemably against me and my sworn enemy until the sun burns out" that fucks up discourse here and on other socials.

The health of our political discourse is not good.

Sad, but true.

 

[Czech_pivo]

NDP ouch.

 

[Remius]

NDP ouch.

At this point any centrists should just move to the LPC and the rest move to provincial or municipal politics where their policies are likely to be better received

 

[dapaterson]

Latest polling, opposition reduced to less than 100 seats. Liberal super majority

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029583160300675330

I'm not a huge fan of that kind of map; that a geographically huge riding with 20K people is likely voting liberal distorts impressions (the vast swaths of red in the north are sparsely populated).

How information is presented has a huge impact on how it is interpreted.

 

[Jarnhamar]

So let’s all shit on the foundation and framing work under way because it’s not a house yet and it’s not our preferred contractor?

Being a preferred contractor shouldn't grant immunity to criticism.

 

[HavokFour]

NDP ouch.

Much needed time in the woods I think. One day they'll hopefully remember their worker roots.

 

[HavokFour]

Post in thread 'Pipelines, energy and natural resources'

5 Mar 2026

This will hopefully help along SMR adoption.

Canada will soon release new electricity and nuclear strategy, minister says

Canada's Energy and Mining Minister Tim Hodgson said on Thursday ‌the government will release a new electricity and nuclear strategy in the coming months as demand for ⁠nuclear energy rises.

www.reuters.com

• HavokFour

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[PPCLI Guy]

It's just a symptom of political polarization.

Just look at these forums. If you criticize Carney you get dog piled. If you support Carney you get dog piled.

The health of our political discourse is not good.

Mea culpa

 

[Jarnhamar]

At this point any centrists should just move to the LPC and the rest move to provincial or municipal politics where their policies are likely to be better received

Centrists all collapsing into one party isn't healthy for democracy. A functioning system needs ideological overlap between parties so voters actually have choices and governments face meaningful competition. If every centrist moved to the Liberals, you’d just hollow out the rest of federal politics and push everything toward 1 dominant party. That would make policy and accountability worse not better.

 

[Quirky]

Latest polling, opposition reduced to less than 100 seats. Liberal super majority

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029583160300675330

Trudeau stepping down was the greatest thing to happen to Canada, too bad it took him 10 years. The decade of darkness and missed opportunity will take a generation to recover. PP came along at the right time though, even though it's unlikely he will emerge as the PM. All things considering, I would still take a Carney PM and DT President, than a PP PM and Harris/Waltz down south.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Being a preferred contractor shouldn't grant immunity to criticism.

Fair, but that also assumes they should get credit where due if a different contractor would likely be at a similar stage of construction.

 

[Infanteer]

All things considering, I would still take a Carney PM and DT President, than a PP PM and Harris/Waltz down south.

4 year DT may just be like a dose of Buckley's - it tastes awful, and it works. If a 2% military, greater infrastructure development, and national projects are what we get out of this, then we'll be better off for it.

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[Good2Golf]

Butwhataboutharper?

The guy who first appointed Carney and supports his approach?

 

[YZT580]

NDP ouch.

at least you can be certain that there will never be a successful vote of non-confidence. Carney has his majority

 

[Jarnhamar]

The guy who first appointed Carney and supports his approach?

Tounge in cheek response to randomly bringing up Poilievre in a conversation about Carney. It seems to happen often anytime criticism at Carney is leveled.

 

[Furniture]

We just need an official opposition to do the same and we might actually have a serious parliament for once

As much as I'm sure it pains you, the current official opposition is the same official opposition that lead us to this current awakening of national pride and interest in realpolitik.

We had a "real" official opposition when they "verbed the noun" (which is the essential sentence structure in any language), and forced the LPC to get back to reality.

Our parliament is doing exactly what it is supposed to do, govern by the will of the people.

 

[Czech_pivo]

at least you can be certain that there will never be a successful vote of non-confidence. Carney has his majority

Don’t count your chickens yet.
PP was once in a similar position.

 

[Halifax Tar]

NDP ouch.

It drives me nuts that they get more or the equivalent votes as the Bloc and less seats.

What a stupid system.

 

[Remius]

As much as I'm sure it pains you, the current official opposition is the same official opposition that lead us to this current awakening of national pride and interest in realpolitik.

They sat back to see what would happen and didn’t even take a position on that until it was too late. It is in part what led to their defeat.

We had a "real" official opposition when they "verbed the noun" (which is the essential sentence structure in any language), and forced the LPC to get back to reality.

I can conceded that, except they forgot the other important piece of being His Majesty’s Loyal Opposition. Be the government in waiting. They completely dropped the ball on that one.

Our parliament is doing exactly what it is supposed to do, govern by the will of the people.

Of course. But my point stands about a serious parliament.

 

[Deleted member 175000]

As much as I'm sure it pains you, the current official opposition is the same official opposition that lead us to this current awakening of national pride and interest in realpolitik.

We had a "real" official opposition when they "verbed the noun" (which is the essential sentence structure in any language), and forced the LPC to get back to reality.

In retrospect- I can accept that. Learning experience for me. I didn't like it but it was politically effective.

But I think there's a big shift that they missed making- firstly when Carney came in, secondly when (and more importantly) when he won on a more centrist platform during a time of crisis.

To my thinking, there's should be a fundamental difference in how the opposition acts

• A- when faced with notoriously incompetent government with which they have a major philosophical divide vice a competent one that's just across the centre line
• B- when the country is facing primarily internal cost of living/ culture issues in a relatively stable world vice facing those same issues in a time of geopolitical upheaval and external threat

Sure, when the other guy is a hyper left wing idiot that you have no common ground with, and the country is safe- go hammer and tongs attack mode in a never ending campaign to bring him down. But when the situation changes, the country is under threat, and the PM changes to a demonstrably competent moderate - cover up the fangs and work with him. Switch from campaign mode to governance mode. Stop trying to manufacture the perception of separation and start trying to influence policy to narrow the gap.

The closeness of the 2025 election left the CPC in a position with significant leverage. Minority government with razor thin margins both parliamentary and polling wise. A less combative approach could have embraced the moment and worked across the aisle- using the leverage as near equals in de facto political primacy to get inside and trade support for influence, allow Carney to reject the pull of the zealots in his caucus and the remnants of the NDP.

Instead he spent a year trying to fight the same fight as he did against JT and convince the electorate he was right to do so. If polling is any indication that approach completely squandered the leverage.