Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Halifax Tar]

Yeah, I think Canada is cooked.

I don't know if we're cooked but I think it will get worse before it gets better

 

[MilEME09]

Astounding how much the Liberal party has harmed Canada.

Google: GDP per capita growth last 10 years to see a comparison against our peer countries.

With the limp efforts towards resource exports and the elbows up mentality towards our largest trading partner, I don't see the current Liberal party improving this situation.

simple question did you look at the reasons for our slumped per capita gdp despite solid gdp growth every year? because per capita GDP is one of the few metrics being used to criticize the government right now because of its poor performance compared to other metrics.

 

[Jarnhamar]

because per capita GDP is one of the few metrics being used to criticize the government right now because of its poor performance compared to other metrics.

That's kind of false framing.
It’s not one of the few meteics in so far as people cite it out of nothing else to go on. It’s one of the most important metrics.
GDP per capita is a core standard-of-living indicator.

Total GDP growth doesn’t mean much if it’s being driven by population increases rather than productivity.

 

[QV]

From AI: Over the last 10 years (roughly 2014–2024), Canada has experienced a divergence between total GDP growth and per capita growth. While total real GDP has increased, driven by high population growth, real GDP per capita has remained nearly stagnant, growing at an anemic average of only 0.4% to 0.8% annualy. This represents one of the worst decades for per capita economic growth since the 1930s.

Key Trends (Last 10 Years):

• Total GDP Growth: Driven by rapid population growth, total GDP continued to grow.
• GDP Per Capita: Stagnant or falling; the country is seeing a "per capita crisis".
• Comparison: From 2014–2024, Canada's real GDP per capita grew by only 3.2% in total, whereas the OECD average was 15.3% and the US was 20.2%.
• The Gap: Canada's GDP per capita fell from 80.4% of the U.S. level in 2012 to 72.3% in 2022, per the Fraser Institute.
• Cause: Very low or negative growth in labour productivity and weak investment, resulting in a decline in the standard of living relative to other advanced nations.
  

As of late 2025/early 2026, the trend of weak per capita growth has continued, with per capita GDP frequently flat or declining, says Statistique Canada.

 

[MilEME09]

That's kind of false framing.
It’s not one of the few meteics in so far as people cite it out of nothing else to go on. It’s one of the most important metrics.
GDP per capita is a core standard-of-living indicator.

Total GDP growth doesn’t mean much if it’s being driven by population increases rather than productivity.

From AI: Over the last 10 years (roughly 2014–2024), Canada has experienced a divergence between total GDP growth and per capita growth. While total real GDP has increased, driven by high population growth, real GDP per capita has remained nearly stagnant, growing at an anemic average of only 0.4% to 0.8% annualy. This represents one of the worst decades for per capita economic growth since the 1930s.

High population growth isnt the only factor, so has been weak productivity growth stemming from low business investment per worker $, automation in some industries, both the BoC and OECD have flagged this as an issue in canada. A large portion of investment capital has also been connected to realestate which down generate much gdp growth at all. High skill job sectors arent growing at a pace compared to other G7 nations.

If we wanna reverse this, we need immigration focused on High skill labour, and we need to attract investment in high skill job growth, instead of the housing market.

 

[Halifax Tar]

High population growth isnt the only factor, so has been weak productivity growth stemming from low business investment per worker $, automation in some industries, both the BoC and OECD have flagged this as an issue in canada. A large portion of investment capital has also been connected to realestate which down generate much gdp growth at all. High skill job sectors arent growing at a pace compared to other G7 nations.

If we wanna reverse this, we need immigration focused on High skill labour, and we need to attract investment in high skill job growth, instead of the housing market.

So not this ?

 

[YZT580]

So not this ?

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absolutely not. Your source is biased

 

[MilEME09]

So not this ?

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In what time frame? and why? corporate offices moving? high earners doesn't mean much if that money isn't being reinvested into the economy.

 

[Halifax Tar]

absolutely not. Your source is biased

The Hub is right leaning. IMHO.

In what time frame? and why? corporate offices moving? high earners doesn't mean much if that money isn't being reinvested into the economy.

Enjoy.

Why Canada’s GDP per capita crisis is real: DeepDive

Canada's economic performance is slipping fast. We've fallen to 38th place in GDP per capita while our productivity crisis deepens. Here's what the data reveals.

thehub.ca

 

[ArmyRick]

I haven't said much lately. I decided to hold back a bit. Many here think I am devoutly die hard conservative (I still insist I am not).

We as a nation are reaping what we have sowed.

Once again, DEEDS not words.

 

[ArmyRick]

If any of you have been watching parliamentary Q & A or Parliamentary committee meetings, the Liberals never provide a clear answer or a direct answer or always try to obfuscate the questioners.

If you can't stand by your policies, decision and the political actions your taking, really got to ask who is Canada supporting?

 

[Halifax Tar]

If any of you have been watching parliamentary Q & A or Parliamentary committee meetings, the Liberals never provide a clear answer or a direct answer or always try to obfuscate the questioners.

If you can't stand by your policies, decision and the political actions your taking, really got to ask who is Canada supporting?

Has any one ever ? It's all really a theatre of avoiding answers to questions.

I hate to be obstreperous but I don't expect the CPC will be more forthcoming in committee or the HoC.

 

[ArmyRick]

Has any one ever ? It's all really a theatre of avoiding answers to questions.

I hate to be obstreperous but I don't expect the CPC will be more forthcoming in committee or the HoC.

When they form government in 2026, or 2029, we shall see.

If you go back and look in history, the Martin and Harper Governments were far, far better in parliament and committee for answering most of the questions directly, with the ocassional spin.
Starting with the Trudeau Liberals and frankly still continuing, it has gotten ridiculous for never answering/avoiding answers.

I am under no delusional belief that things will be perfect in a CPC government this year or 2029, but I strongly suspect it will be a f@ck of a lot better for transparency. Looking for movement in the right direction.

So we are clear, I am rooting for PM MC to get his very shaky majority and for them to stay there for awhile. Canada needs to feel it deep and figure it out.

My sons are already planning future careers post secondary in the USA. At this point, I am strongly encouraging them. Considering one is well on the path to take an engineering degree, it sucks he is not even considering a career in Canada (He may, might look at the CAF, much to my surprise).

 

[suffolkowner]

When they form government in 2026, or 2029, we shall see

right now 2033 looks more likely

 

[ArmyRick]

right now 2033 looks more likely

Your crystal ball is that good? I don't think so.

 

[suffolkowner]

Your crystal ball is that good? I don't think so.

gives Pierre another 7 years to work on his game
but i have no idea what events or situations may turn the tide of political opinion some time in the future, just that the Liberals have managed a soft reset on their governance and it may have extended their 8 year run by another. A super weak NDP helps their chances and right now i doubt that changes in the next 3 yrs

 

[ArmyRick]

My crystal ball tells me this (the IMMEDIATE future is more predictable than 7 years from now)

I see the Liberals strong probability of winning all 3 coming by elections. Yup, even Terrabonne in Quebec (spelling?). The Liberals are allowed to chip in $100,000 for each candidate they are running but it can be spent ANYWHERE, and the word is they are dogpiling the spending in Quebec riding where the Bloc is a genuine threat. That means some very aggressive spending and campaigning.

They are pretty sure they have the two Toronto ridings locked up (Although word of caution, remember when Toronto St Paul by election in 2024 was a "safe" Liberal riding? Turned out then it wasn't, thanks to Trudeau, but swap out leaders in 2025 and Liberals win it in 2025), so there is a SMALL chance some of the Liberals failure to achieve a damn thing could happen but I do expect LPC wins.

Now, Carney has his coveted majority. I think he will hold onto it for at leat a year, most likely longer. It will be shaky. A slight majority means the PM and ministers have to be cautious about absenteeism in parliament or risk coming down on a surprise confidence vote.

Another word to the Liberal cheerleaders, be warned, there is far more fractioning in the LPC than the CPC. The extreme SJW and climate activist are not feeling the Carney Corporate vibe. As expected, Carney started to move his crew in. Tim Hodgson is front and center much more these days. He just hired an old associate as the PBO replacement. Nathaniel Erskine-Smith is looking to be the front runner for the Ontario LP leadership (He is openly not feeling the Carney vibe).

This is only a rumour at this point but apparently some old Liberal back benchers are feeling slighted by "conservative yesterday/Liberal Today" floor crossers who get preferential treatment. And on the topic of floor crossers, in the long run, it rarely sits well with Canadians.

Yes, I know, some of you will say I am a total Pierre fan boy. I am very supportive of him and still believe him. Go back and read some of my post though, as much as I support him, if he couldn't win his by election or get through his leadership review, then I was more than willing to say "You were awesome but pack your bags and leave, Pierre"

I STILL also stand by my statement that PM MC has squandered what was a golden gift. If he basically did the opposite of what JT did, he could have been walking right into a clear majority election this spring instead of begging for traitors and hoping a few by elections go well.

 

[ArmyRick]

gives Pierre another 7 years to work on his game
but i have no idea what events or situations may turn the tide of political opinion some time in the future, just that the Liberals have managed a soft reset on their governance and it may have extended their 8 year run by another. A super weak NDP helps their chances and right now i doubt that changes in the next 3 yrs

Or Canadians sooner rather than later see NOTHING meaningful comes from the Carney Liberals.

And Pierre is getting some very positive media attention of late, or did you fail to notice?

Carney lack of initiative to seize a real opportunity will drag him down sooner rather than later.

The NDP? I don't expect much. If Avi Lewis wins, then I see the marxist commie supporters of the LPC going to him. So they get 10-15 seats next election. However I also think Heather McPherson might cross the floor to the LPC if she doesn't win the NDP leadership race.

 

[YZT580]

I haven't said much lately. I decided to hold back a bit. Many here think I am devoutly die hard conservative (I still insist I am not).

We as a nation are reaping what we have sowed.

Once again, DEEDS not words.

welcome back. It has been boring.

 

[Remius]

‘We control our destiny’: Canada officially hits NATO defence spending target

After more than a decade of plodding progress, Canada has officially hit the NATO spending target of two per cent of GDP set during the Wales Summit of 2014.

www.ctvnews.ca

Now to get to 3.5?