Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Halifax Tar]

And how many CPC member tubthump for the Republicans?

Is there evidence of CPC MPs campaigning in the USA for Republicans ?

 

[dapaterson]

Happy Anniversary, to those who celebrate.

Burning of Washington - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[brihard]

And how many CPC member tubthump for the Republicans?

Is that a rhetorical question? If there are any, by all means feel free to name them and link us to a source.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

And how many CPC member tubthump for the Republicans?

That is a completely irrelevant question - but it is on brand for this thread, which is rampant with whataboutism, from every conceivable direction.

 

[Blackadder1916]

NOT a good look - especially with the English & French posts on his FB account. American Congress members coming up here to help campaigns would be looked at askance, so same here.

Wonder if anyone from Team Red Central had any level of approval or OK on this? If so, they're dumb too. If not, let's see what happens now that more and more people know.

In addition to "not a good look" in Canada for a Canadian MP (or just a plain citizen) to be "campaigning" south of the border, what would be the legality of a non-US citizen campaigning (or "providing a thing of value") for an American political candidate? There is a 2007 FEC advisory opinion that addresses that question.

https://www.fec.gov/files/legal/aos/2007-22/2007-22.pdf

. . . The Commission concludes that Canadian citizens may provide volunteer services to your campaign. Furthermore, you may use campaign funds and personal funds to obtain information from Canadian citizens, and to travel to Canada to observe third party election operations. You may also use campaign funds to hire Canadian citizens as members of your campaign staff. Your authorized committee may not accept election materials used in previous Canadian campaigns that are provided without charge by Canadian third party candidates, but you may use campaign funds and personal funds to purchase such materials. . . .

 

[HavokFour]

Using data from Liaison Strategies, Poliwave is projecting an LPC sweep for the by-elections.

NOTE: Data is from before the trade-deal talks imploding.

Chicoutimi—Le Fjord · Poliwave riding polls for 3 upcoming federal elections on August 31st · Poliwave

www.poliwave.com

-18.7 being projected for the CPC in Chicoutimi-Le Fjord, yikes.

 

[Nvlgzr]

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Sounds like he is now a punching bag, and I get the feeling his days might be numbered with the CPC

“Liberal politicians like Mark Carney and Doug Ford”, last time I checked Doug is Conservative . Some might even call him maple maga.

 

[Altair]

“Liberal politicians like Mark Carney and Doug Ford”, last time I checked Doug is Conservative . Some might even call him maple maga.

To the Reform leaning CPC, a progressive conservative might as well be a Liberal.

Which, unfortunately for their insults, is really bad in terms of electoral math. A good portion of the CPC is progressive conservative.

 

[RangerRay]

“Liberal politicians like Mark Carney and Doug Ford”, last time I checked Doug is Conservative . Some might even call him maple maga.

Yeah, picking fights with the most successful Conservative Party in the country, which also happens to be in the most populous province, strikes me as monumentally stupid.

 

[Altair]

Opinion: What is Jamil Jivani’s deal?

The Ontario MP is not just an embarrassment to his party, he’s increasingly a menace to the country

www.theglobeandmail.com

In another world, say, one in which Stephen Harper was leader of the Conservatives and not the wounded duck that is Mr. Poilievre, Mr. Jivani would have long ago been handed his hat and told to take a hike. Not only is he an embarrassment to his party, he is increasingly a menace to the country.

He has become an unapologetic shill for a corrupt and vulgar U.S. administration intent on owning this country – a walking billboard for the benign, unseemly acquiescence it demands from Canada and the rest of the world.

Mr. Jivani suggests the dollar-for-dollar trade threat of Mr. Carney’s is an overreaction. Does he not recall his party’s own platform in last year’s election? The Conservatives ran on imposing dollar-for-dollar retaliatory tariffs “maximizing impact” on American companies.

He may think that what he’s saying is smart and calculated to appeal to that pro-MAGA wing of his party that he will need if he hopes to ascend to its leadership one day, which is clearly his ambition.
But even if he does one day supplant Mr. Poilievre, he will never lead his party to victory. Canadians will never forget which side he was on when the country faced its greatest crisis in decades.
And it wasn’t Canada’s.

I wish the CPC the best of luck if the membership select Mr Jivani as their next leader after Poilievre.

But I do not put it past their membership to do that.

I said during Trudeau's first term that the worst thing the CPC could do was put an attack dog like PP as their leader, and here we are.

 

[HavokFour]

Opinion piece from the G&M today.

Opinion: What is Jamil Jivani’s deal?

The Ontario MP is not just an embarrassment to his party, he’s increasingly a menace to the country

www.theglobeandmail.com

Archive

EDIT: Well that was some timing @Altair.

 

[Altair]

Opinion piece from the G&M today.

Opinion: What is Jamil Jivani’s deal?

The Ontario MP is not just an embarrassment to his party, he’s increasingly a menace to the country

www.theglobeandmail.com

Archive

Beat ya by a second.

 

[ArmyRick]

I said during Trudeau's first term that the worst thing the CPC could do was put an attack dog like PP as their leader, and here we are.

And Trudeau is gone, thank you Pierre. Hey remember in 2024 when you were absolutely sure Trudeau would fight another election? Go back and read your own comments.

 

[Altair]

And Trudeau is gone, thank you Pierre. Hey remember in 2024 when you were absolutely sure Trudeau would fight another election? Go back and read your own comments.

If the grand heights of the aspirations of the CPC and PP were to turf Trudeau, congratulations to them.

 

[HavokFour]

Interesting happening. Carney will attend the EU State of the Union on September 16th, and will be giving a speech to EU Parliament on the 17th.

Canada’s Carney to attend EU’s State of the Union

“In these challenging times, strengthening our relationships across the world is vital,” the European Commission told POLITICO.

www.politico.eu

 

[Nvlgzr]

Opinion: What is Jamil Jivani’s deal?

The Ontario MP is not just an embarrassment to his party, he’s increasingly a menace to the country

www.theglobeandmail.com

I wish the CPC the best of luck if the membership select Mr Jivani as their next leader after Poilievre.

But I do not put it past their membership to do that.

I said during Trudeau's first term that the worst thing the CPC could do was put an attack dog like PP as their leader, and here we are.

Seems to me that one needs reform party roots to rise up in the CPC.

 

[The Bread Guy]

This guy has a track record of being unquestioningly a ultra-hard-anti-Red Team Blue fan, and if he says something's gotta give, maybe more people should listen.

Spencer Fernando: The Conservatives still don’t understand what’s happening

If you aren’t convincingly against Donald Trump, nothing else matters.

www.readtheline.ca

Also archived here.

Mind you, some may find him not quite Blue enough these days, so YMMV - from the piece ....

 

[ArmyRick]

This guy has a track record of being unquestioningly a ultra-hard-anti-Red Team Blue fan, and if he says something's gotta give, maybe more people should listen.

Spencer Fernando: The Conservatives still don’t understand what’s happening

If you aren’t convincingly against Donald Trump, nothing else matters.

www.readtheline.ca

Also archived here.

Mind you, some may find him not quite Blue enough these days, so YMMV - from the piece ....
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My take (for what narrow a view it is) is many of the "red tory" faction want a softer or more left leaning version of the tories.
Why?
When Tories try to be more liberals, they hand the Libs another easy election victory. Another reminder, the last election was a hairline victory for Carney Liberals and Pierre still managed to increase CPC seat count by 20 seats. Not enough to take the crown.

Now some here will cheer on the idea of Tory leader being a "red tory", I suspect many of them just want to see the CPC stay in opposition.

I will be sharing an interview with David Colletto of Abacus pollinng who offers insight. He was one of the most accurate pollsters last election. Wait out.

 

[ArmyRick]

David Colletto of Abacus Polling has some interesting takes on polling and the factors influencing them

 

[brihard]

My take (for what narrow a view it is) is many of the "red tory" faction want a softer or more left leaning version of the tories.
Why?
When Tories try to be more liberals, they hand the Libs another easy election victory. Another reminder, the last election was a hairline victory for Carney Liberals and Pierre still managed to increase CPC seat count by 20 seats. Not enough to take the crown.

Now some here will cheer on the idea of Tory leader being a "red tory", I suspect many of them just want to see the CPC stay in opposition.

I will be sharing an interview with David Colletto of Abacus pollinng who offers insight. He was one of the most accurate pollsters last election. Wait out.

Poilievre and his Reform Party faction that came to dominate the CPC are not really aligned with what we’ve considered ‘Tories’; to try to characterize them as such isn’t accurate. They absorbed the Progressive Conservatives, and then shifted away from that alignment. That’s left a vacuum that Carney has deftly slipped the LPC into, albeit at the cost of increasingly leaving a corresponding vacuum on the left.

If and when the CPC recover their sense of where they’re at, it will be necessary for them to fight hard to recover that center and centre right space that they’ve at least partially ceded to the sudden LPC shift. Not sure how they’ll actually do it.