Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[HavokFour]

Sounds like PMMC has the Bloc's support.

Le Bloc québécois prêt à épauler Mark Carney dans son virage européen

L’idée d’un resserrement des liens entre le Canada et l’Union européenne « est naturelle et souhaitable », estime le chef du Bloc québécois, Yves-François Blanchet, qui salue la décision du premier ministre Mark Carney de soumettre toute entente à l’approbation du Parlement.

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[Jarnhamar]

The EU negotiates trade deals as a bloc, members can't sign their own.

 

[Czech_pivo]

It just caters to bog standard hate America Canadianism. It feeds biases is all. And Trump has simply given the green light for that the to be very publicly displayed.

Anyways I just wish Canada would realize we have no friends only interests and stop trying to run from the bosom of one greater empire to the other.

But geographically and culturally were just northern Wisconsinites, Mainers and Oregonians.

Let’s be frank here.
If Trump had gone bat shit crazy on only the rest of the world regarding trade/tariffs and left Mexico and Canada alone, because after all he negotiated the best trade deal that the world has ever seen only 5yrs earlier, none of this would be happening.

PP would have won the election with a majority government.
He would have scrapped the Carbon tax, just like Carney has done. He’d be trying to get off the ground a new pipeline down to the Americans and maybe, maybe another one to the WC like Carney is trying. There would be zero movement on breaking down inter-provincial trade barriers. We won’t have a new FTA with the UAE, Indonesia and about to have one with India. We would not have SAFE but would have 88 F35’s signed off on. We won’t be joining the UK Expeditionary Force. Would not have Observer status with GCAP, no Gobaleye. A million other possibilities are out there.

Nothing on the go with the EU.

It all comes down to Trump deciding to burn down the entire Western world on trade, tariffs, alliances, everything. If he had left us alone, we wouldn’t be doing 85% of what we are doing.

 

[YZT580]

As Carney Heads to Europe, 4 in 5 Canadians Support Closer Integration with the EU - Abacus Data

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If the project to expand Churchill for 80-90$ billion was funded by say the Sovereign Fund of Norway and the CPPIB to have multiple rail lines, all weather road, expanded port facilities for shipping potash, pulse and grain exports and critical minerals, a floating LNG terminal and a 1m+ bpd oil pipeline/port, with sufficient ice breaking for 12 month shipping, I wonder if the 37% approval for Canada to join the EU in Alberta/Sask/MB would climb to levels seen in QC and BC?

He specifically mentioned a "northern pipeline" in his remarks.

 

[Jarnhamar]

what new concessions will Canada need to make to be an associate member? Will that include being a party to the EU's Migration Pact? I mention that one as I think it will be a particular wrinkle with our closest neighbor and our shared porous border.

I called that 18 months ago when Carney was gushing over the EU and calling himself European. We'll need to do our part to alievate Europe's humanitarian crisis.

 

[Czech_pivo]

He specifically mentioned a "northern pipeline" in his remarks.

IF we can build that in Churchill it’s a fricking game changer in my books.
LNG and an oil pipeline, opens a million doors for us.

 

[Czech_pivo]

I called that 18 months ago when Carney was gushing over the EU and calling himself European. We'll need to do our part to alievate Europe's humanitarian crisis.

Don’t see that happening- full stop.

 

[MilEME09]

I called that 18 months ago when Carney was gushing over the EU and calling himself European. We'll need to do our part to alievate Europe's humanitarian crisis.

Nothing ive seen says we will magically have euro zone style free movement law allowing thousands of migrants from Africa to use the EU to get to canada. It just aint happening

 

[Czech_pivo]

Nothing ive seen says we will magically have euro zone style free movement law allowing thousands of migrants from Africa to use the EU to get to canada. It just aint happening

It’s a long swim from the Med to St Johns or from Calais.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Don’t see that happening- full stop.

Why wouldn't an associate member of the EU be expected to help the collective with their humanitarian crisis?

 

[Czech_pivo]

Why wouldn't an associate member of the EU be expected to help the collective with their humanitarian crisis?

Well because no one can define what an ‘associate member’ is yet to start with.

I fully get the ‘black swan’ planning but there would be zero chance that the Canadian public would sign up for something like that.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

Absolutely. When Germany and Japan came asking for LNG, I was all for that as an example, however the LPC didn't believe there was a business case then.

I'm interested in the fine print regarding any kind of association with the EU. Full member countries lose some controls... what will that entail for "associates"?

I note CETA already exists and remains provisional after 9 years... so the EU hasn't fully supported that free trade agreement yet.... what new concessions will Canada need to make to be an associate member? Will that include being a party to the EU's Migration Pact? I mention that one as I think it will be a particular wrinkle with our closest neighbor and our shared porous border.

Or it could be something else.....

 

[Czech_pivo]

Why wouldn't an associate member of the EU be expected to help the collective with their humanitarian crisis?

As well, a number of member states have not signed on to that, Poland is a major case in point to this.

 

[QV]

As well, a number of member states have not signed on to that, Poland is a major case in point to this.

Poland joined the EU in 2004, the Migration Pact was introduced in 2024.

From google:

"Poland was granted "temporary exemption" from the mandatory relocation or financial "solidarity" contributions because Poland was hosting hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians already. Brussels continues to monitor through periodic reviews".

This all sounds delightfully soveirgn.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Poland joined the EU in 2004, the Migration Pact was introduced in 2024.

From google:

"Poland was granted "temporary exemption" from the mandatory relocation or financial "solidarity" contributions because Poland was hosting hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians already. Brussels continues to monitor through periodic reviews".

This all sounds delightfully soveirgn.

Time will tell.

In the meantime try and enjoy life

 

[Cloud Cover]

Why wouldn't an associate member of the EU be expected to help the collective with their humanitarian crisis?

Good question. Any one of these EU states can veto Canadian participation. It’s likely that most of them are going to try and request credit, cash and especially foist their immigration and roving millions of migrants woes upon us, and Mr. C better be prepared to say “no”, “non”, “nein”, nei, nem, nil and no way in hell.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Free trade with the EU, sure.

But nothing else, thank you.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Well because no one can define what an ‘associate member’ is yet to start with.

No. But Carney wants this, and I'm betting EU members want to offload some of their guests.

I fully get the ‘black swan’ planning but there would be zero chance that the Canadian public would sign up for something like that.

The government has a majority. At most the public can threaten to vote for Poilievre in 3 years or hope Carney is attending Question period so MPs can ask him about it.

 

[Halifax Tar]

The government has a majority. At most the public can threaten to vote for Poilievre in 3 years or hope Carney is attending Question period so MPs can ask him about it.

Carney has his majority. We're getting what he wants now. Question period is just a performance.

But most Canadians want what he's offering. Oh well. Make good investments, hard times are coming.

 

[Good2Golf]

The government has a majority. At most the public can threaten to vote for Poilievre in 3 years or hope Carney is attending Question period so MPs can ask him about it.

…or maybe Carney pulls a ‘Blue Swan’ event, calls an election, racks up an epic majority Doug Ford style, and gets another 4-5 years or solid majority rule. PP hangs on for the battle in 2031.

But most Canadians want what he's offering. Oh well. Make good investments, hard times are coming.

Well I know that Carney didn’t have anything to do with my hard times at the pump today. Diesel in Ottawa today was 274.9 today, twice what it was since February when Trump kicked off OP FIX-UP FAILURE OF MIDNIGHT HAMMER LAST YEAR…