Liberal Spin Doctors Never Miss A Trick- Do They?

[Blue Max]

JMacleod, BC Liberals do not have much in common with the federal Liberals, infact the provincial boys & girls cringe at the name association. BC provincial Liberals are regurgitated Social Credit supporter if you are looking for ideological association.

As for up & coming leaders of a thrashed federal Liberal party, I have heard Frank Mckenna's name throw about. He is now serving as Canadian ambassador to US, and is very unhappy after being embarrassed by Mr Dithers in regard to the BMD decision.

 

[jmacleod]

Former Premier Frank McKenna PC, QC, had an office in Moncton about five blocks from where I
am sitting. Know him well, absolutely outstanding politician and professional barrister. He will prove
a great asset to Canada in Washington. McKenna, in common with Premier Binns of PEI and
Williams of Newfoundland/Labrador is smart. There has been speculation of his role as a potential
leader of the Liberal Party of Canada - no one here (in Moncton NB) can say for sure. But the
original topic is focused on Liberal spin doctors - which is a correct deduction of the proposed
change in Canada Immigration rulings - this is focused on more "immigrant support" for the
Party. The previous immigration policies, focused on the 416 and 905 areas of Ontario were
created for the purpose of creating long term loyality to the Canadian politicians who opened
the doors - saw it first hand while working Toronto the Good - now the rest of Canada can see
the results. The guys that are sitting in power in Ottawa know that "winning is everything".
Regards, MacLeod

 

[Blue Max]

JMacleod, did you hear Fed Minister Ujjal Dosang (former BC NDP premier) try to rake the Conservatives over the coals for a supposed HIDDEN AGENDA, re privitizing of health services.

Problem is the Ujjal has no credibility and is more akin to a Liberal pit bull attacking what ever corner his master tell him.  As well the Liberal should not be one to talk of hidden aggenda's:
    1. No credibility after GOMERY enquiry.

 

[Blue Max]

Sorry mouse is all over the place;

      2. Liberals have already allowed medical privatization to take place in Quebec and Ontario, while    lambasting and fear mongering over the Conservatives plan for consultation of options.
      3. Liberals kill all round table discussions over options to improve medicare in Canada (if Lib's don't think propose idea).

 

[a_majoor]

I am looking for the ref; but it appears that paragon of socialized medicine, Mr D himself, has a private Dr who runs a private clinic. I guess I know who will hit the mat for healthcare....(not Mr D, for certain)

As for the Gomrey Inquiry, it is only the tip of the iceberg. Why havn't the legions of crusading reporters (who somehow missed ADSCAM) decended upon the "Foundations" that the Liberal government endowed with seven billion tax dollars, beyond the perview of Parliament or the Auditor General?

Hey, we all know some of you "guests" and lurkers work for the media; get going before some American Blogger scoops you all (again). As for the rest of us, a campaign of letters to the editor exposing facts like the ones Max brought up would start putting backspin against the spin Drs.

 

[I_am_John_Galt]

JMacleod, BC Liberals do not have much in common with the federal Liberals, infact the provincial boys & girls cringe at the name association. BC provincial Liberals are regurgitated Social Credit supporter if you are looking for ideological association.

Exactly.

2. Liberals have already allowed medical privatization to take place in Quebec and Ontario, while lambasting and fear mongering over the Conservatives plan for consultation of options.

On top of which, Paul Martin's own doctor runs a $50million+ private clinic in Montreal (there are private clinics in BC, too: the doublethink is astounding).  After the last election, where the Conservatives (arguably) lost because they didn't go for the jugular when they had the chance, this might get a little more attention once the CBC starts headlining the "secret agenda on healthcare" line again ...

 

[Blue Max]

One other massive Liberal failure comes to mind, the Tainted Blood fiasco. I just read the Mr. Dither's actually sat on the board of a company (plant was owned in part by the Canadian Development Corp) that was pushing to have a process to screen blood certified . This process was found to be sub standard, and thus dropped but not before thousands of Litres of good blood were wasted in trials.

To make up the shortfall blood was purchased from the American penal system (can you say drug user's), and then the Canadian Blood Committee blocked the introduction of safety standards(test for Hep C) for years. The Red Cross lied about the chances of picking up an illness from this blood as being 1:1x106 when it was as high as 1:166, then the blood that was known to be unsafe was given to Hemophiliacs.

On top of all the front end "mistakes" that were made, the federal govt (Liberal's) have until yesterday denied compansation to all of the effected people. Yesterday was only another crass attempt at vote buying. :rage:

See Globe & Mail, April 21, Second Opinion by Andre Picard.

 

[I_am_John_Galt]

I am looking for the ref; but it appears that paragon of socialized medicine, Mr D himself, has a private Dr who runs a private clinic. I guess I know who will hit the mat for healthcare....(not Mr D, for certain)

On top of which, Paul Martin's own doctor runs a $50million+ private clinic in Montreal

MPs cry foul; Paul Martin's doctor runs private clinics
Last Updated Fri, 07 May 2004 21:38:56

OTTAWA - Opposition politicians are calling Paul Martin a hypocrite after finding out that his personal physician heads a private health care clinic in Montreal.

Dr. Sheldon Elman is the founder and CEO of the Medisys Health Group. He has been Martin's doctor for 23 years.


Paul Martin
Martin says he's never used private health care. In recent months, he has been touting the Liberals as the protectors of medicare while painting the Conservatives as the party that wants to privatize services.

"The hypocrisy of these guys is absolutely breathtaking," said Conservative leader Stephen Harper.

The company's web site, lists its 2003 revenue as $53 million and says it provides health care to some of the country's largest corporations. It also operates a chain of private MRI clinics.

Martin insists he's never undergone an MRI.

"My primary health coverage...is my medicare card and that's what I use all the time when I go to a public clinic," says Martin. "I don't believe in queue-jumping."

Deputy Prime Minister Anne McClellan took questions from reporters Friday wondering why Martin would use a private clinic.

"This is a clinic in Montreal that is publicly accessible to anyone who needs medical treatment."

Only last week, Health Minister Pierre Pettigrew was forced by Martin to clarify remarks Pettigrew made suggesting the Liberals were more open to private clinics.

New Democrat MP Bill Blaikie says the issue is the fact that private clinics are flourishing.

Quebec is home to a growing number of MRI clinics. Patients can opt to pay out-of-pocket for the service, bypassing the long waiting lists of hospitals.

Harper says Martin has failed to make clear his intentions on medicare.

"No one knows where this prime minister stands," says Harper.

Martin has promised to work out a new health funding deal with the provinces this summer. He is also expected to make health care an issue in the next federal election, expected to be called any day.

Written by CBC News Online staff

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/05/07/canada/Martindoctor_040507

 

[a_majoor]

Kudos to John Gault.

For the legions of readers, start writing those letters to the editor. NOW!

 

[Zipper]

The Liberal's are toast.

Although we have to accept with a grain of salt whether or not the alternatives will be any better.

Sheesh...

 

[jmacleod]

The spin doctors in the Martin Minority government know that it will take many months for the
Gomery Report to be concluded, debated, analysed, debated again, etc., etc., What has been
overlooked by the flunkies are two important unknown factors in the upcoming campaign for
electorial support; one is the advocation of connubial sodomy (same sex marriage) bitterly resented
by the traditional Liberals, which will cost those MP's who support it dearly (take a look at LifeSite
News) - the other is the fact that several persons named in the Gomery Report have been charged
under the provisions of the Criminal Code of Canada RSC. They will appear in a Court of Ordinary
Criminal Jurisdiction, where if one lies, one faces much more than a dirty look. Several former Liberal
cabinet ministers are quaking in their boots over this aspect of their political careers (see today's
Chronicle-Herald Halifax NS). The political baisis for Canadian society also, as all members and visitors
to this site know, has a definative and profound effect of the defence of Canada, with chillingly
negative effect over the past two decades. This must be changed; the process is called a General
Election - MacLeod

 

[George Wallace]

With the Queen's plans to visit Canada this summer to celebrate Alberta and Saskatchewan's Centennials, I would think that there are some other reasons to wait for a General Election.  Reasons, other than the results of the Gomery Inquiry.  The Queen has a policy of not visiting a Nation that is in the process of conducting a General Election, so any plans or intent to hold a General Election prior or soon after her planned visit could prove costly to many of the Prairie Provinces and others involved in these visits.  If this is a consideration, we may not see any election posturing until the late Fall.