LPC leadership race - 2025

[Good2Golf]

He will be removed as leader at the 2025 NDP leadership convention if he continues this charade any longer.

The riding associations are sharpening their knives in the corner over the "well, what do you say we prop them up one last time... for the tariff relief?"

Edit to add: NDP Constitution states leadership review votes are mandatory after 2 years and the leader must maintain 50% plus one delegate approval in that vote to stay on as leader. If not, automatic leadership race. Happened to Thomas Mulcair in 2018.

So if he wasn’t so supported and replaced, then the replacement leader whips the NDP caucus to no longer support the LPC and they all go to election and lose seats and any hope for getting more back-scratching programs, you think that’s the most likely COA?

 

[rmc_wannabe]

So if he wasn’t so supported and replaced, then the replacement leader whips the NDP caucus to no longer support the LPC and they all go to election and lose seats and any hope for getting more back-scratching programs, you think that’s the most likely COA?

The NDP is structured far differently than the LPC, by design and by history.

The riding associations and individual party members wield a lot of power; unlike the LPC, where it is centrally controlled and dictated to by President and Party Leader. Your average NDP supporter gives no fucks about holding to power, only if their party continues to represent their interests and beliefs, through their candidates and party leader.

The NDP has strayed far away from those values and there are a lot of people in Team Orange that want to hit the reset button. Those who get to decide if Singh continues to ride the gravy train are the ones who aren't onboard with him.

If the LPC had retained a similar structure in their constitution before PMJT consolidated power in himself, he would have been turfed at latest this summer.

Dippers can stand being called many things, but LPCLite is grating on nerves a lot of folks never thought they had.

 

[Good2Golf]

The NDP is structured far differently than the LPC, by design and by history.

The riding associations and individual party members wield a lot of power; unlike the LPC, where it is centrally controlled and dictated to by President and Party Leader. Your average NDP supporter gives no fucks about holding to power, only if their party continues to represent their interests and beliefs, through their candidates and party leader.

The NDP has strayed far away from those values and there are a lot of people in Team Orange that want to hit the reset button. Those who get to decide if Singh continues to ride the gravy train are the ones who aren't onboard with him.

If the LPC had retained a similar structure in their constitution before PMJT consolidated power in himself, he would have been turfed at latest this summer.

Dippers can stand being called many things, but LPCLite is grating on nerves a lot of folks never thought they had.

I hope you are right. In theory, this could go on for some time. You know things are upside down when the NDP absolutely holds most of the…trump cards.

 

[OldSolduer]

This is not the NDP I once knew. The past leaders had principles- this guy not so much.

Layton rode a bike to the Hill. Singh arrives in - what was it?

This NDP has about as much in common with the working class as I have with the Royal Family

 

[Furniture]

From their standpoint it would probably objectively make sense to. They should probably ask Rick if it’s OK first though.

If they can't see past 2025...

If the NDP is as myopic as you, and others, seem to think, perhaps they deserve to be relegated to irrelevance like the Greens.

 

[brihard]

If they can't see past 2025...

If the NDP is as myopic as you, and others, seem to think, perhaps they deserve to be relegated to irrelevance like the Greens.

It’s highly likely they will be an opposition party for four years after the next election; many of their current MPs will likely turnover in that time. They get sporadic windows of time in which they can try to achieve the policy objectives they campaign on. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. An election now puts them out to pasture with little accomplished. An election this fall gives a decent amount of time for regulatory flesh on the legislative bones they’ve succesfully pushed for on a few issues. An additional year over that - at the cost of significant LPC policy concessions - could give them more opportunity still, at the cost of pissing off a bunch of us who will never vote for them anyway.

For many of us (myself included), they have zero chance of winning our votes regardless, so they don’t need to pander to our preferences. While I don’t think it’s likely they and LPC try to change the election date law, it’s not impossible, and for the NDP could conceivably make sense. I hope they don’t, and I don’t think they will, but pragmatically it’s a move that could potentially suit them.

 

[Furniture]

An election this fall gives a decent amount of time for regulatory flesh on the legislative bones they’ve succesfully pushed for on a few issues. An additional year over that - at the cost of significant LPC policy concessions - could give them more opportunity still, at the cost of pissing off a bunch of us who will never vote for them anyway.

This is pure NDP copium...

I understand that you are trying to play devil's advocate, but this is silliness.

The NDP had a chance to be a real second option. They let that die on the alter of identity politics and propping up Trudeau.