LPC leadership race - 2025

[Halifax Tar]

Your choice, no whining post ex!

It's every service members God given right to whine

 

[Rifleman62]

New Trudeau-Carney Scam Warning!​

 

[CBH99]

Freeland is again the target of disinformation, this time it’s Kremlin-aligned.

Incitement of Anti-Ukrainian Hate Targeting Chrystia Freeland - DisinfoWatch

This meme is an example of Russian-aligned disinformation and psychological manipulation aimed at inciting hatred towards Ukrainians and Canadians of Ukrainian heritage, particularly targeting former Deputy Prime Minister and Liberal...

disinfowatch.org

Hmmmmmmm...I'm not sure what part of this is disinformation though...

Is she a traitor as far as the Criminal Code is concerned? No. The definition of treason is woefully outdated and narrow...



Has she worked against the best interests of Canadians & Canada, in favour of a foreign body that wants to influence our domestic policies?

Could that be considered treason in the eyes of the people that elected her?


Is she a traitor as far as deliberately mismanaging the financial and economic resources of Canadians?

Is she a traitor in the sense that she represents Canada on the world stage, but doesn't represent the values or desires of Canadians?

Is she a traitor because she's deliberately introduced and stick-handled legislation through Canadian legislative chambers that Canadians clearly communicated they didn't want, and wasn't in their best interest?

When it comes to Ukraine, is she acting in Canada's best interest? (Arguable, with both sides able to present valid points...)

(My point here is that it's more complicated than a simple yes or no)


As Finance Minister & Deputy PM, has she used Ukraine as a readily available excuse to further deplete Canada's coffers?

(I realize the largest population of Ukrainians outside of Ukraine is here in Canada, so the argument could easily be made there was a domestic political interest in blindly supporting Ukraine without question or condition...)

Has she done almost everything legally possible (and some flirting with illegal) to bankrupt Canadians, and bankrupt Canadian government coffers?


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So in terms of the Kremlin-linked disinformation. How do we know its Kremlin-linked? How do we know its disinformation?

Good propaganda campaigns tend to include mostly factual information, with small amounts of believable disinformation discreetly planted within. So even if this is Russian disinformation, there's a very good chance that most of the information is accurate for the most part.

The reason I question whether we know for certain if it's Russian linked or not isn't because of the current leadership race. It would be pretty easy for the powers at be behind Carney to try to smear his opponents in the leadership race, and blame the oh-so-handy villain...

(Just throwing it out there as a possibility is all. With Godparents & lifelong friends like she has, who needs enemies??)


(If any Russian psychological warfare personnel happen to come across this post - believe me when I say this - there is no disinformation campaign needed for Chrystia Freeland. The twitchy-witchy midget of mayhem seems to enjoy swimming in the filthy swamp she's surrounded herself with, and Canadians are well aware that she's a piece of s**t. Just give her time and she'll start showing her true colors again...)

 

[RangerRay]

Hmmmmmmm...I'm not sure what part of this is disinformation though...

Is she a traitor as far as the Criminal Code is concerned? No. The definition of treason is woefully outdated and narrow...



Has she worked against the best interests of Canadians & Canada, in favour of a foreign body that wants to influence our domestic policies?

Could that be considered treason in the eyes of the people that elected her?


Is she a traitor as far as deliberately mismanaging the financial and economic resources of Canadians?

Is she a traitor in the sense that she represents Canada on the world stage, but doesn't represent the values or desires of Canadians?

Is she a traitor because she's deliberately introduced and stick-handled legislation through Canadian legislative chambers that Canadians clearly communicated they didn't want, and wasn't in their best interest?

When it comes to Ukraine, is she acting in Canada's best interest? (Arguable, with both sides able to present valid points...)

(My point here is that it's more complicated than a simple yes or no)


As Finance Minister & Deputy PM, has she used Ukraine as a readily available excuse to further deplete Canada's coffers?

(I realize the largest population of Ukrainians outside of Ukraine is here in Canada, so the argument could easily be made there was a domestic political interest in blindly supporting Ukraine without question or condition...)

Has she done almost everything legally possible (and some flirting with illegal) to bankrupt Canadians, and bankrupt Canadian government coffers?


...

So in terms of the Kremlin-linked disinformation. How do we know its Kremlin-linked? How do we know its disinformation?

Good propaganda campaigns tend to include mostly factual information, with small amounts of believable disinformation discreetly planted within. So even if this is Russian disinformation, there's a very good chance that most of the information is accurate for the most part.

The reason I question whether we know for certain if it's Russian linked or not isn't because of the current leadership race. It would be pretty easy for the powers at be behind Carney to try to smear his opponents in the leadership race, and blame the oh-so-handy villain...

(Just throwing it out there as a possibility is all. With Godparents & lifelong friends like she has, who needs enemies??)


(If any Russian psychological warfare personnel happen to come across this post - believe me when I say this - there is no disinformation campaign needed for Chrystia Freeland. The twitchy-witchy midget of mayhem seems to enjoy swimming in the filthy swamp she's surrounded herself with, and Canadians are well aware that she's a piece of s**t. Just give her time and she'll start showing her true colors again...)

Wow. All I got in response is

 

[GK .Dundas]

First, I think that like the rest of society, there are large number of traditional views but who were off put by the changes to the party as the rest of Canada, but afraid to speak out for fear of being canceled and unwilling to change parties because the others still, despite changes to the NDP, fit less with their values. Those who held the traditional ndp position that the party was about the working class and establishing social welfare for all Canadians.

Second, we are a parliamentary democracy, and in that system the opposition plays an important role. I myself have joined committees where I was against the position/purpose of the committee, but joined to be a sobering voice on the committee and keep them from drastic decisions. Someone can support the NDP, be a member, be an MP, and hell even be the leader, all knowing full well they will never achieve forming government. That's not myopic, that's knowing the system we live in and knowing that even without full-power you can still have an important and critical role in our democracy.

New Trudeau-Carney Scam Warning!​

Hmmmmmmm...I'm not sure what part of this is disinformation though...

Is she a traitor as far as the Criminal Code is concerned? No. The definition of treason is woefully outdated and narrow...



Has she worked against the best interests of Canadians & Canada, in favour of a foreign body that wants to influence our domestic policies?

Could that be considered treason in the eyes of the people that elected her?


Is she a traitor as far as deliberately mismanaging the financial and economic resources of Canadians?

Is she a traitor in the sense that she represents Canada on the world stage, but doesn't represent the values or desires of Canadians?

Is she a traitor because she's deliberately introduced and stick-handled legislation through Canadian legislative chambers that Canadians clearly communicated they didn't want, and wasn't in their best interest?

When it comes to Ukraine, is she acting in Canada's best interest? (Arguable, with both sides able to present valid points...)

(My point here is that it's more complicated than a simple yes or no)


As Finance Minister & Deputy PM, has she used Ukraine as a readily available excuse to further deplete Canada's coffers?

(I realize the largest population of Ukrainians outside of Ukraine is here in Canada, so the argument could easily be made there was a domestic political interest in blindly supporting Ukraine without question or condition...)

Has she done almost everything legally possible (and some flirting with illegal) to bankrupt Canadians, and bankrupt Canadian government coffers?


...

So in terms of the Kremlin-linked disinformation. How do we know its Kremlin-linked? How do we know its disinformation?

Good propaganda campaigns tend to include mostly factual information, with small amounts of believable disinformation discreetly planted within. So even if this is Russian disinformation, there's a very good chance that most of the information is accurate for the most part.

The reason I question whether we know for certain if it's Russian linked or not isn't because of the current leadership race. It would be pretty easy for the powers at be behind Carney to try to smear his opponents in the leadership race, and blame the oh-so-handy villain...

(Just throwing it out there as a possibility is all. With Godparents & lifelong friends like she has, who needs enemies??)


(If any Russian psychological warfare personnel happen to come across this post - believe me when I say this - there is no disinformation campaign needed for Chrystia Freeland. The twitchy-witchy midget of mayhem seems to enjoy swimming in the filthy swamp she's surrounded herself with, and Canadians are well aware that she's a piece of s**t. Just give her time and she'll start showing her true colors again...)

Please tell me you're not about to shoot up some random pizza joint ?

 

[CBH99]

"We need to do more to prevent fraud, corruption, and foreign interference in our government processes!"

-LPC proceeds to deal swiftly and aggressively with potential fraud, corruption, and FI in our government processes-

Fishbone: "How dare they!"

We DO need to prevent fraud & corruption, and foreign interference, in our government processes...

This shouldn't be hard. Honestly it shouldn't.

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There are rules in place to ensure government transparency, and someone has to sign off on money that gets spent.

Break the rules? Discipline or fire them. Period.

Make a public statement about it to show that the party is committed to ethical behaviour, and that government employees who deliberately behave in an unethical manner are no longer government employees & their misdeed will be available for public scrutiny.

The current strategy of sweeping things under the rug in fear that the transgression may hurt the image of the party is a big part of what's hurting the party...

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If the LPC was remotely interested in dealing with fraud, embezzlement, and blatant corruption within the party they would instruct their MP's to return that $330M they awarded themselves for work that was never actually done...

But I haven't heard a peep about that money being returned, or anybody even being disciplined internally. No criminal charges.

Even the ArriveSCAM scandal, which saw tens of millions of dollars awarded to a few dudes who had never even made an app before & didn't even finish completing the app...did they even return that money? Any legal consequences?

(Didn't they also identify as an Indigenous company, but it was revealed later they weren't?)


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You help organize a "Freedom Convoy" to protest a sadistic & truly evil example of government overreach? Turns out under the LPC, you'd have been far better off just blatantly stealing a shit-ton of money instead...

Thw government asked the general population to get injected with something that had been rushed to market & hadn't had any human trials.

Right after granting the pharmaceutical industry absolute legal protection from any accountability, to the point where people couldn't even have their case heard in court...

The federal government came after those protest organizers hard. Took years of their life away, essentially bankrupted them, had them arrested numerous times, and made their lives as difficult as possible under the guise of bail conditions...only to be dragged through the longest mischief trials in Canadian history, YEARS after the fact...

But MP's collectively steal $330M of taxpayer money by awarding themselves contacts for which no work was ever done, and contract conditions are not met? (Not to mention the blatant ignoring of any/all conflict of interest rules...)

F**king Crickets...




So maybe disqualifying Ruby was done for legitimate reasons. Or maybe they are simply paving the way for Carbon-Tax Carney to be coronated as party leader, and the accusations against Ruby aren't legitimate.

I don't think it really matters at this point, to be honest. But I don't think it was done because the LPC suddenly started caring about fraud & corruption. If they did, there are way bigger & more readily identifiable targets to go after.

(I'm not sure if that's what PuckChaser was meaning or not, but those are my 2 cents anyway...

 

[CBH99]

Please tell me you're not about to shoot up some random pizza joint ?

Hell no!

I love pizza, and I am violently opposed to...well...unnecessary violence.



Pizza Hut has never wronged me!

 

[GK .Dundas]

Hell no!

I love pizza, and I am violently opposed to...well...unnecessary violence.



Pizza Hut has never wronged me!

Good to know, I only wish I could say the same....far too greasy.

 

[CBH99]

Wow. All I got in response is

I deliberately left my questions open ended, so people could answer for themselves...

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And in regards to my question about it being Kremlin-backed misinformation, how do we know its Kremlin backed? Even the link says 'Origin Country - Unknown'

Politicians try to smear each other when vying for whatever position they are going for.

Is it out of the realm of possibility that smears against Freeland could be coming from her political opponents, during a time when her & those opponents are campaigning for the top spot?

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I'm not questioning you personally Ranger Ray.

And that link may very well be 100% accurate, and the disinformation is originating from Russia. (Even though the link says it doesn't know the source country of the meme)

But questioning & scratching just past the surface isn't a crazy idea reserved only for tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Good luck with that, both of you

Liberal leadership candidates divided on question of cuts to public service

Liberal leadership candidates have contrasting plans for Canada’s federal public service — with presumed front-runner Mark Carney taking the most aggressive stance so far.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Is anyone surprised?

Director of two alleged Chinese ‘police stations’ receives medal from Governor General​

One appointee and recipient of the King Charles III Coronation Medal are under fire for alleged ties to Chinese attacks on Canada's democracy

Director of two alleged Chinese ‘police stations’ receives medal from Governor General

Senator Yuen Pau Woo referred Xixi Li to Rideau Hall as a recipient of the King Charles III Coronation Medal. Woo allegedly helped China intrude in our democracy, while Li oversees two supposed Chinese

www.rebelnews.com

 

[Halifax Tar]

@Remius you'd asked about voting direction:

How To Vote | Liberal Party of Canada

Voting is fast and easy. Find out more about the ways to vote in this election.

liberal.ca

I went through the verification process, just waiting for the LPC to get back to me and approve.

 

[Remius]

Seems simple enough.

 

[Lumber]

@Remius you'd asked about voting direction:

How To Vote | Liberal Party of Canada

Voting is fast and easy. Find out more about the ways to vote in this election.

liberal.ca

I went through the verification process, just waiting for the LPC to get back to me and approve.

I got notified that they had trouble verifying my identity. Apparently when Service Nova Scotia entered in my personal info, they entered my first and middle name both in the "First name" box and left my middle name blank. On my driver's licence it doesn't appear like anything is amiss, but when I scanned my license into Indent+ it automatically fills in your name IAW the official record, so right now it looks like my driver's licence and passport have different first and middle names, and you can't manually change the way your names are arranged on the app. So, hopefully someone is able to see the ridiculousness of this and confirm my ID.

 

[Remius]

When I joined the CPC a few years ago I had to mail in stuff and a fee.

Not sure I would join a party again. Maybe in retirement. I had to declare it on a security clearance once.

If anyone hopes to move to the US they also and about previous party memberships.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I got notified that they had trouble verifying my identity. Apparently when Service Nova Scotia entered in my personal info, they entered my first and middle name both in the "First name" box and left my middle name blank. On my driver's licence it doesn't appear like anything is amiss, but when I scanned my license into Indent+ it automatically fills in your name IAW the official record, so right now it looks like my driver's licence and passport have different first and middle names, and you can't manually change the way your names are arranged on the app. So, hopefully someone is able to see the ridiculousness of this and confirm my ID.

I got the same thing.

Looking back on it, perhaps I should have just went to the CP out let in the Bayer's Road shopping center lol.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I got notified that they had trouble verifying my identity. Apparently when Service Nova Scotia entered in my personal info, they entered my first and middle name both in the "First name" box and left my middle name blank. On my driver's licence it doesn't appear like anything is amiss, but when I scanned my license into Indent+ it automatically fills in your name IAW the official record, so right now it looks like my driver's licence and passport have different first and middle names, and you can't manually change the way your names are arranged on the app. So, hopefully someone is able to see the ridiculousness of this and confirm my ID.

I just got my approval.

Voting instructions to follow.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Bonne chance, et vive Duo Lingo, M. Carney!

Carney under pressure as Liberal leadership candidates prepare for French debate - National | Globalnews.ca

Carney currently leads in endorsements, polling and fundraising, and he's the subject of frequent attacks from Poilievre — but that doesn't mean he's got the leadership sewn up.

globalnews.ca

 

[OldSolduer]

Bonne chance, et vive Duo Lingo, M. Carney!

Carney under pressure as Liberal leadership candidates prepare for French debate - National | Globalnews.ca

Carney currently leads in endorsements, polling and fundraising, and he's the subject of frequent attacks from Poilievre — but that doesn't mean he's got the leadership sewn up.

globalnews.ca

Maybe he should taunt them a second time…

 

[CBH99]

Bonne chance, et vive Duo Lingo, M. Carney!

Carney under pressure as Liberal leadership candidates prepare for French debate - National | Globalnews.ca

Carney currently leads in endorsements, polling and fundraising, and he's the subject of frequent attacks from Poilievre — but that doesn't mean he's got the leadership sewn up.

globalnews.ca

I'm actually looking forwards to watching snippets of this

"Tell us again, Mark, whatya been up to the last decade+ you've been living in Europe?? Isn't that close to France or something? Why can't you speak French yet Mark?? In French, please!" <-------- (just imagine I can speak French and this was in French...)