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Maritime Coastal Defence Vessels (MCDVs)

On the Kingston Class they use the large inflatable Mamba's. They go to the MDA, the route is already programed in with depths and so forth. They drop it in the water, it runs the route, surfaces sends a msg that's it ready to be picked up. It brought back the data is analysed and mines or mine like objects are identified and the divers are sent in to neutralize the threat.View attachment 95427View attachment 95428View attachment 95429View attachment 95431View attachment 95432
This looks to be suitable only in fair weather. Do we have or are buying an all weather solution? War isn’t going to wait for a nice day.
 
Paying-off's are always sad, but are part of naval life (not as much in Canada since we stretch the period of commission way too long).

The only thing I would have changed on that invite is that I would have made the picture at the bottom one of a MCDV sailing into the sunset.
 
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In my former role with DNSM 7 I was in on the selection of the Sponsors for HMC Ships Hall, Rolette, Gray, Pro 2 and Pre 2. I also took the time to get the names and bio`s of all the sponsors of HMC Ships from HMCS St Laurent to HMCS Margaret Brooke. Most of them have now passed and finding the actual NAMES of ladies who sponsored the ships from the 50`s and 60`s (in the commissioning books, it was always Mrs so and so) was a real pain!

We were able to get a hold of Jean Chretien, whose wife Aline sponsored Shawinigan and it appears he will attend the ceremony when her time comes.
 
Brandon was my first ship. Seems like there is something in my eye.

Here's hoping that they look at those names for the submarines. That's just me being a biased softie though.
I would personally rather see the Kingston class names be reused on their own replacements in the future, and the submarines follow previous fish based naming conventions. I have my own biases obviously as well, but the RCN is dearly lacking another HMCS Rainbow in its fleet.
 
I would personally rather see the Kingston class names be reused on their own replacements in the future, and the submarines follow previous fish based naming conventions. I have my own biases obviously as well, but the RCN is dearly lacking another HMCS Rainbow in its fleet.

That would be a very 2025 name for a new warship.
 
That would be a very 2025 name for a new warship.
I would find the inevitable claims of "the RCN going woke" amusing when the same people are informed one of the founding two vessels of the Navy was named HMCS Rainbow, alongside a cold war submarine as well.
 
I like that idea. Kingston class Subs. But I have a soft spot for all things Kingston, Ont...

Then would you settle for a Frontenac class to muddle things up a bit?

Here's the historical reason, for those history buffs around here: When they named vessels after cities and towns in WWII and Kingston's turn came around, they couldn't name the ship for the city of Kingston by the city name because there already was a HMS KINGSTON in commission, so they used the name of the French settlement that was originally there and later became Kingston: HMCS FRONTENAC. The second time around, with the MCDV's, there was no ship of the city's name in commission so they could use it directly.
 
I would personally rather see the Kingston class names be reused on their own replacements in the future, and the submarines follow previous fish based naming conventions. I have my own biases obviously as well, but the RCN is dearly lacking another HMCS Rainbow in its fleet.

We have not historically named our submarines after fish. Rainbow was an outlier, and was so named after the first cruiser of the RCN. CC-1, CC-2, CC-14, U-190 and Grilse were definitely not named after fishes, nor were any of the "O" boats or VIC's.
 
Then would you settle for a Frontenac class to muddle things up a bit?

Here's the historical reason, for those history buffs around here: When they named vessels after cities and towns in WWII and Kingston's turn came around, they couldn't name the ship for the city of Kingston by the city name because there already was a HMS KINGSTON in commission, so they used the name of the French settlement that was originally there and later became Kingston: HMCS FRONTENAC. The second time around, with the MCDV's, there was no ship of the city's name in commission so they could use it directly.
The bell made for HMCS FRONTENAC before they changed it to HMCS KINGSTON

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We have not historically named our submarines after fish. Rainbow was an outlier, and was so named after the first cruiser of the RCN. CC-1, CC-2, CC-14, U-190 and Grilse were definitely not named after fishes, nor were any of the "O" boats or VIC's.
Rainbow is a Trout and Grilse is a stage of Salmon lifecycle, so there was a convention at one point throughout the Cold War. I don't think anybody is going to ask to return to the horrible numerical designations of the past, nor does the "Tribal" connotations of the Oberon class seem to be a viable option going forward. I personally loathe the Victoria class naming scheme, given it was the unoriginal slapping of town/city names onto the third concurrent class of ships in the RCN at one time.

There was countless options put forward for the Victoria class at first, including marine mammals, fish, bodies of water, former vessels, explorers, battles, indigenous leaders, watershed, port cities, towns, communities, etc. It's pretty clear that fish have been used in the past and on the minds of naming conventions even up to the Victoria class.
 
I would find the inevitable claims of "the RCN going woke" amusing when the same people are informed one of the founding two vessels of the Navy was named HMCS Rainbow, alongside a cold war submarine as well.

I think the reaction from some folks will be inevitable. But I don't think that kind of circumstance should dissuade us in our decision making.
 
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