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Medical Rejection: How to Appeal? [Merged]

Gunshark said:
You aren't sent any medical letters from Ottawa directly. Your medical results are sent from your recruiting centre to Ottawa for review. The approval (hopefully) is then sent from Ottawa back to your recruiting centre, and your recruiting centre lets you know what the next step is.

Thank you for the response. Is there not a letter in the process though? For example in this thread: http://army.ca/forums/threads/114561/post-1300275.html, the poster mentions having to wait for a letter. It's really no big deal, I'd just prefer email. I'm also living away from home for school, so I'm not sure if I would want it sent to my parents' house (in which case they would probably read it first), or my dorm (which I don't really trust since the mailbox is open, and there's like 15 people that share this house) which I'm leaving in like 3 months anyway.
 
If you note in the thread you referenced, the individual was found medically unfit, and was advised the reasoning would be mailed to him. I was not aware this is done, but looks like it's only in the "unfit" case anyway.

Last I know of (I was in application process just last year), you are not mailed any letters if you are found fit.

In any case, in your situation I would provide your parents' address. They shouldn't be opening your mail but you shouldn't be keeping secrets like this from them either.

Depending on your trade selection, at the end of your medical you may be instructed to get additional tests done outside of the recruiting centre (for example, eye test). You will be given the required form(s) to take to the appropriate doctor(s). When you get those tests done, you then can either deliver those filled out forms yourself to the CFRC medical section or mail them there.
 
Asked and answered in Ask a CAF Recruiter,

re: appeals
http://milnet.ca/forums/threads/123090/post-1440632.html#msg1440632

Q: I have finally sent in an appeal because it takes to long to get in to see a psychiatrist.

A: To appeal any type of Medical disqualification, will require reports from your civilian health care professionals. 

See also: Enrollment Medical,

Challenging a medical decision/Requesting second review  ( Locked )
http://army.ca/forums/threads/37404.25.html
2 pages.

Medical appeal  ( Locked )
http://army.ca/forums/threads/68680.0

appealing medical rejection
http://army.ca/forums/threads/119953.0

Appeals
http://army.ca/forums/threads/83309.0

Failed to meet Medical Standards
OP: I'm planning on appealing their decision
https://army.ca/forums/threads/110159.50.html
3 pages.

Ottawa Medical
OP:  is there any way I can appeal this decision? 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/35629.0

"Does not Meet Common Enrolment Medical Standards"
OP: Two weeks ago I received my notice that my appeal was successfully over turned.
http://army.ca/forums/threads/113415.0
2 pages.

etc...







 
Hey guys.
So I finally received my letter and we all know only phone calls are good news. So I was rejected for a medical problem. I had my medical forms filled out and they all said the same thing "minimal to zero chance of reoccurrence" but the letter stated I have high risk of reoccurrence.
To save you guys the gritty details, all I'd like to know is if anyone knows the best action to take for a second opinion. I've fought to hard to get to where I am now to not fight and I need to appeal. If it comes back as still a no then I'll take it as it is but I must try. Any help would be muchly appreciated.
Thank you
 
sk8man said:
I need to appeal.

Medical rejection seems strange 
https://army.ca/forums/threads/121893.0

Challenging a medical decision/Requesting second review 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/37404.25
2 pages.

appealing medical rejection for renal colic 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/119953.0

Medical appeal 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/68680.0

Asked and answered in Ask a CAF Recruiter,

re: appeals
http://milnet.ca/forums/threads/123090/post-1440632.html#msg1440632

Q: I have finally sent in an appeal because it takes to long to get in to see a psychiatrist.

A: To appeal any type of Medical disqualification, will require reports from your civilian health care professionals. 

See also: Enrollment Medical,

Challenging a medical decision/Requesting second review  ( Locked )
http://army.ca/forums/threads/37404.25.html
2 pages.

Medical appeal  ( Locked )
http://army.ca/forums/threads/68680.0

appealing medical rejection
http://army.ca/forums/threads/119953.0

Appeals
http://army.ca/forums/threads/83309.0

Failed to meet Medical Standards
OP: I'm planning on appealing their decision
https://army.ca/forums/threads/110159.50.html
3 pages.

Ottawa Medical
OP:  is there any way I can appeal this decision? 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/35629.0

"Does not Meet Common Enrolment Medical Standards"
OP: Two weeks ago I received my notice that my appeal was successfully over turned.
http://army.ca/forums/threads/113415.0
2 pages.

etc...

See also,

AA got me a NO NO ( Locked )
http://milnet.ca/forums/threads/100119/post-1031707.html#msg1031707
Original Poster: sk8man
Anyway, can I appeal this, maybe by going to a second Doctor.

I can't take no for an answer.








 
Hello,
I would like to know if there is a way to contact the people at RMO who review the medical files ? I would like to get some precisions about the reason why I was found medically unfit. In the letter I received, they stayed pretty vague about their reasoning. And before anyone asks, my local recruiting center hasn't been very helpful at all, so this is why I am asking here.

Thanks in advance !
 
Kaya1981 said:
I would like to know if there is a way to contact the people at RMO who review the medical files ?

For continuity of the Original Poster's Enrollment Medical questions, and for reference, perhaps "Contacting RMO ?"

will be merged with Kaya1981's other three posts ( Reply #108, #110 and #113 ) in,

Medical Review Board/File Review ( merged )
http://milnet.ca/forums/threads/13453/post-1378166.html#msg1378166
7 pages.

See also,

Challenging a medical decision/Requesting second review 
https://army.ca/forums/threads/37404.25.html
2 pages.

etc...



 
Does anyone have any idea how long it takes to get an Air Factor?  I received a call from my CFRC telling me that I passed my medical, except the med tech didn't give me the paperwork to complete my Air Factor back in March when I did the medical.  I have to go next week to get the paperwork and then see my doctor to get the work done.  I am applying for AEC in the RCAF.  Everything else on my file is done and this is holding me up from being merit listed.

I waited 3.5 months for my medical.  Is Air Factor about the same wait time?

Thanks!
 
bscriber said:
Does anyone have any idea how long it takes to get an Air Factor?  I received a call from my CFRC telling me that I passed my medical, except the med tech didn't give me the paperwork to complete my Air Factor back in March when I did the medical.  I have to go next week to get the paperwork and then see my doctor to get the work done.  I am applying for AEC in the RCAF.  Everything else on my file is done and this is holding me up from being merit listed.

I waited 3.5 months for my medical.  Is Air Factor about the same wait time?

I'm pretty sure the AF can only be assigned/awarded by CFEME Toronto and should have been done when you did your ASC Course.  Once you return any required documentation, your medical file will need to be sent to Toronto for review and approval.  Not entirely certain on the turn around times for this but I'm thinking 4-6 weeks, if not longer, would be a reasonable expectation.
 
DAA said:
I'm pretty sure the AF can only be assigned/awarded by CFEME Toronto and should have been done when you did your ASC Course.  Once you return any required documentation, your medical file will need to be sent to Toronto for review and approval.  Not entirely certain on the turn around times for this but I'm thinking 4-6 weeks, if not longer, would be a reasonable expectation.

Thanks DAA!  Yes, the Cpl. at CFRC Kingston I talked to was surprised the paperwork wasn't given to me before I did my ASC course.  I'm off to Kingston next week to pick up the paperwork, then off to see my doctor to get everything done.  I was so excited to have hit the end of the long recruitment road, but I have to navigate this last bend :).  Hopefully, it will be only 4-6 weeks, but I'll expect longer.  Hope for the best, plan for the worst, right?
 
bscriber said:
Thanks DAA!  Yes, the Cpl. at CFRC Kingston I talked to was surprised the paperwork wasn't given to me before I did my ASC course.  I'm off to Kingston next week to pick up the paperwork, then off to see my doctor to get everything done.  I was so excited to have hit the end of the long recruitment road, but I have to navigate this last bend :).  Hopefully, it will be only 4-6 weeks, but I'll expect longer.  Hope for the best, plan for the worst, right?

Only a guess but chances are, you may have been caught during a processing change for Aircrew Occupations and your CFRC may not have been aware of this.  It seems to be sorted out now and hopefully you are on your way again.

Don't loose sleep over this, it's not a critical issue and the CAF will always be looking for Pilots, so your chances of being made an offer of employment have not been disadvantaged.  But I would recommend that you maintain contact with your local Recruiting Detachment every 30-45 days, even if to just check in on things.

Good luck!
 
Are you referring to the additional blood and vision tests that you have to get for aircrew after the normal medical? I applied for pilot and ACSO and  did my medical in April then was given the forms to get filled out by my doctor and optometrist. I got them filled out after I did my aircrew selection in May and got them sent out in early June.
 
Yes, I am.  I was never given the forms though, and I did my AEC testing two months ago.  I would have had this done if I had had the forms.  Oh well.  I'll pick them up next Wednesday and get it all squared away :)
 
Ah I see. Hopefully yours goes quickly since your regular medical was already sent up. I did my ACS in early May where I passed for ACSO but not for pilot. I stupidly assumed that I would only need to send those forms in for pilot and not ACSO so I didn't bother until I found out 3 weeks later that I did indeed need to send them. So now it's been 2 months since Ottawa received all my documents but maybe I would be done already if I didn't waste those 3 weeks  :facepalm:
 
I received a letter in the mail from the RMO today; I've been rejected. I want to appeal, but I'm just lost right now. All I really ever wanted to do was join the army; if I can't have that I don't know what I'll do after high school. It's not like all my plans for the future were riding on it, but that sure was my dream career path. I just have tourretes and some anxiety, plus all my doctors recommend my approval so the denial is a pretty big shock. In preparation for the appeal, I'm contacting the doctors who examined me to ensure they can recommend me again if needed. However, one quit her practice and moved to another city so it is a bit tough right now. The CFRC isn't picking up so I'll send an email to the medical department later. I think my case is petty strong, so we'll see what happens.

That's all I have for now I guess. Sorry if it's a bit incoherent, I'm on mobile and just had to get this off my chest.

Thanks for listening. If you have any advice for next steps or writing the email, please feel free to share it; I sure could use it. If this counts as a rant, I'll delete it.

EDIT: Typos and and sentence
 
ArmedAndUseless said:
I received a letter in the mail from the RMO today; I've been rejected. I want to appeal, but I'm just lost right now.

For reference, perhaps,

Bad luck with the RMO 

will be merged with,

Challenging a medical decision/Requesting second review 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/37404.25
2 pages.

See also,

Medical rejection seems strange 
https://army.ca/forums/threads/121893.0

appealing medical rejection for renal colic 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/119953.0

Medical appeal 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/68680.0

Asked and answered in Ask a CAF Recruiter,

re: appeals
http://milnet.ca/forums/threads/123090/post-1440632.html#msg1440632

Q: I have finally sent in an appeal because it takes to long to get in to see a psychiatrist.

A: To appeal any type of Medical disqualification, will require reports from your civilian health care professionals. 

See also: Enrollment Medical,

Challenging a medical decision/Requesting second review  ( Locked )
http://army.ca/forums/threads/37404.25.html
2 pages.

Medical appeal  ( Locked )
http://army.ca/forums/threads/68680.0

appealing medical rejection
http://army.ca/forums/threads/119953.0

Appeals
http://army.ca/forums/threads/83309.0

Failed to meet Medical Standards
OP: I'm planning on appealing their decision
https://army.ca/forums/threads/110159.50.html
3 pages.

Ottawa Medical
OP:  is there any way I can appeal this decision? 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/35629.0

"Does not Meet Common Enrolment Medical Standards"
OP: Two weeks ago I received my notice that my appeal was successfully over turned.
http://army.ca/forums/threads/113415.0
2 pages.

etc...






 
mariomike said:
For reference, perhaps,

Bad luck with the RMO 

will be merged with,

Challenging a medical decision/Requesting second review 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/37404.25
2 pages.

See also,

Medical rejection seems strange 
https://army.ca/forums/threads/121893.0

appealing medical rejection for renal colic 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/119953.0

Medical appeal 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/68680.0

Asked and answered in Ask a CAF Recruiter,

re: appeals
http://milnet.ca/forums/threads/123090/post-1440632.html#msg1440632

Q: I have finally sent in an appeal because it takes to long to get in to see a psychiatrist.

A: To appeal any type of Medical disqualification, will require reports from your civilian health care professionals. 

See also: Enrollment Medical,

Challenging a medical decision/Requesting second review  ( Locked )
http://army.ca/forums/threads/37404.25.html
2 pages.

Medical appeal  ( Locked )
http://army.ca/forums/threads/68680.0

appealing medical rejection
http://army.ca/forums/threads/119953.0

Appeals
http://army.ca/forums/threads/83309.0

Failed to meet Medical Standards
OP: I'm planning on appealing their decision
https://army.ca/forums/threads/110159.50.html
3 pages.

Ottawa Medical
OP:  is there any way I can appeal this decision? 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/35629.0

"Does not Meet Common Enrolment Medical Standards"
OP: Two weeks ago I received my notice that my appeal was successfully over turned.
http://army.ca/forums/threads/113415.0
2 pages.

etc...

Sorry, wasn't sure if it counted as a "personal story" or not; thanks for moving it!
 
I have been through the application process twice now, the first time I was rejected do to a criminal record, the second time I was found medically unfit. When I was rejected for my record I went and received a full pardon, during that time I also had laser eye surgery so that my vision level could improve from a low end V4. When I had the surgery I was diagnosed with keratconus and had that corrected as well. When I applied the seconded time and got to the medical portion of the process, the medical officer recognized me and asked why I was not wearing the uniform since I was found fit the first time. My question is would I have been released medically once my disorder was diagnosed after becoming a recruit or did I just get unlucky in being diagnosed prior to the application.

Thank you for the information
 
If you wish to appeal a medical decision, you can read this,

Challenging a medical decision/Requesting second review 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/37404.25
2 pages.

Medical rejection seems strange 
https://army.ca/forums/threads/121893.0

appealing medical rejection for renal colic 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/119953.0

Medical appeal 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/68680.0

Asked and answered in Ask a CAF Recruiter,

re: appeals
http://milnet.ca/forums/threads/123090/post-1440632.html#msg1440632

Q: I have finally sent in an appeal because it takes to long to get in to see a psychiatrist.

A: To appeal any type of Medical disqualification, will require reports from your civilian health care professionals. 

Challenging a medical decision/Requesting second review  ( Locked )
http://army.ca/forums/threads/37404.25.html
2 pages.

Medical appeal  ( Locked )
http://army.ca/forums/threads/68680.0

appealing medical rejection
http://army.ca/forums/threads/119953.0

Medical Review Board/File Review ( merged )
http://milnet.ca/forums/threads/13453/post-1378166.html#msg1378166
7 pages.

Bad luck with the RMO 
https://army.ca/forums/threads/37404.25

Appeals
http://army.ca/forums/threads/83309.0

Failed to meet Medical Standards
OP: I'm planning on appealing their decision
https://army.ca/forums/threads/110159.50.html
3 pages.

Ottawa Medical
OP:  is there any way I can appeal this decision? 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/35629.0

"Does not Meet Common Enrolment Medical Standards"
OP: Two weeks ago I received my notice that my appeal was successfully over turned.
http://army.ca/forums/threads/113415.0
2 pages.

etc...

As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of information.




 
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