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Modern Cavalry?

Heavy horse events are also a feature of the fairs here in rural Eastern Ontario. As well, there is quite a "horsey set" involved with show horses and show jumping and beiieve it or not, there is a shop specializing in saddles, etc less than two klicks from my house.

Now, talking about artillery teams of horses. A gun and limber was drawn by six horses and another six horses did the same for the ammunition wagon and its limber. A section of two guns, which must have been a great job for a lieutenant, consisted of two guns, three ammunition wagons, a bit more than 50 troops and close to 40 horses. In action the teams and the ammuniton wagons were marshalled in cover a short distance behind the guns where they were able to replenish the ammunition supply with the guns. Hence the archaic term "wagon lines" which was used during my servce and may still be used for all I know for the battery A Echelon.
 
Okay. That's got me going to what is my all-time favourite poem by Kipling.

Enjoy.

Snarleyow

By Rudyard Kipling

This 'appened in a battle to a batt'ry of the corps
Which is first among the women an' amazin' first in war;
An' what the bloomin' battle was I don't remember now,
But Two's off-lead 'e answered to the name o' Snarleyow.
Down in the Infantry, nobody cares;
Down in the Cavalry, Colonel 'e swears;
But down in the lead with the wheel at the flog
Turns the bold Bombardier to a little whipped dog!

They was movin' into action, they was needed very sore,
To learn a little schoolin' to a native army corps,
They 'ad nipped against an uphill, they was tuckin' down the brow,
When a tricky, trundlin' roundshot give the knock to Snarleyow.

They cut 'im loose an' left 'im -- 'e was almost tore in two --
But he tried to follow after as a well-trained 'orse should do;
'E went an' fouled the limber, an' the Driver's Brother squeals:
"Pull up, pull up for Snarleyow -- 'is head's between 'is 'eels!"

The Driver 'umped 'is shoulder, for the wheels was goin' round,
An' there ain't no "Stop, conductor!" when a batt'ry's changin' ground;
Sez 'e: "I broke the beggar in, an' very sad I feels,
But I couldn't pull up, not for you -- your 'ead between your 'eels!"

'E 'adn't 'ardly spoke the word, before a droppin' shell
A little right the batt'ry an' between the sections fell;
An' when the smoke 'ad cleared away, before the limber wheels,
There lay the Driver's Brother with 'is 'ead between 'is 'eels.

Then sez the Driver's Brother, an' 'is words was very plain,
"For Gawd's own sake get over me, an' put me out o' pain."
They saw 'is wounds was mortial, an' they judged that it was best,
So they took an' drove the limber straight across 'is back an' chest.

The Driver 'e give nothin' 'cept a little coughin' grunt,
But 'e swung 'is 'orses 'andsome when it came to "Action Front!"
An' if one wheel was juicy, you may lay your Monday head
'Twas juicier for the n-------- when the case begun to spread.

The moril of this story, it is plainly to be seen:
You 'avn't got no families when servin' of the Queen --
You 'avn't got no brothers, fathers, sisters, wives, or sons --
If you want to win your battles take an' work your bloomin' guns!
Down in the Infantry, nobody cares;
Down in the Cavalry, Colonel 'e swears;
But down in the lead with the wheel at the flog
Turns the bold Bombardier to a little whipped dog!
 
Back in the day horses used to carry men in full plate while being outfitted in full plate themselves. Gross  total roughly 600lbs on the animal. These were specially bred chargers.

Could be a hybrid of a Clydesdale and quarter horse now.

Still think animals have no place in modern combat with the exception of dogs for I.e.d detection.
 
I mentioned in an earlier post that 1st Airborne Battery experimented with pack horses in 1974. Here is a link to the 1974 Canadian Gunner which includes an article on the test at p. 90.

http://www.artillery.net/beta/files/Canadian%20Gunner%201974.pdf

It pretty well puts the use of animal transport in difficult country in perspective.
 
More UFI to ponder. Many historians dispute the idea that war horses in the Middle ages were huge "Draft" animals (and by inference I think these large horses were bred after the Middle ages to draw the massive artillery trains and logistics wagons of the 1500's)

While we all know the dangers of Wikipedia, this is a good place to start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destrier

Destrier

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is about the destrier, a type of war horse. For information about other Medieval horses, see Horses in the Middle Ages.
 
The destrier is the best-known war horse of the medieval era. It carried knights in battles, tournaments, and jousts. It was described by contemporary sources as the Great Horse, due to its significance.

The word destrier is derived from the Vulgar Latin dextarius, meaning "right-sided" (the same root as our modern dexterous and dexterity). This may refer to the fact that it was led by the squire at the knight's right side (or led by the right hand) or to the horse's gait, (possibly leading with the right).[1]

While highly prized by knights and men-at-arms, the destrier was actually not very common.[2] Most knights and mounted men-at-arms rode other war horses, such as coursers and rounceys.[3] These three types of horse were often referred to generically as chargers.

Contents
  [hide]  1 Characteristics of the destrier
2 Breeding and size of the destrier
3 Value of quality war horses
4 See also
5 Notes and references

[edit] Characteristics of the destrier

The word destrier does not refer to a breed, but to a type of horse: the finest and strongest warhorse. These horses were usually stallions, bred and raised from foalhood specifically for the needs of war. The destrier was also considered the most suited to the joust; coursers seem to have been preferred for other forms of warfare.[4] They had powerful hindquarters, able to easily coil and spring to stop, spin, turn or sprint forward. They also had a short back and well-muscled loin, strong bone, and a well-arched neck. From medieval art, the head of the destrier appears to have had a straight or slightly convex profile, strong, wide jaw, and good width between the eyes.

The destrier was specifically for use in battle or tournament; for everyday riding, a knight would use a palfrey, and his baggage would be carried on a sumpter horse (or packhorse), or possibly in wagons.

[edit] Breeding and size of the destrier

Caparisoned horses competing in a joust. Codex Manesse
For more details on this topic, see Horses in the Middle Ages.

There are many theories as to what type and size destriers attained, but they apparently were not enormous draft types.[5] Recent research undertaken at the Museum of London, using literary, pictorial and archeological sources, suggests war horses (including destriers) averaged 14–15 hands, and were distinguished from a riding horse by their strength, musculature and training, rather than their size.[6] This estimate is supported by an analysis of medieval horse armour located in the Royal Armouries, which indicates the equipment was originally worn by horses of 15 to 16 hands,[7] about the size and build of a modern field hunter or ordinary riding horse.[8]

It is probable that the modern Percheron draft breed may be a descendant in part from the Destrier, though it is probably taller and heavier than the medieval horse. Other draft breeds such as the Shire claim destrier ancestry, though proof is less certain.

Equestrian statues in Italy suggest a "Spanish" style of horse that today would be referred to as a Baroque horse, such as the Andalusian horse, Friesian horse, or even a heavy but agile warmblood breed such as the Irish Draught. Modern estimates put the height of a destrier at no more than 16 hands, though with a strong and heavy physique.[9] Though the term "Great Horse" was used to describe the Destrier, leading some historians to speculate that such animals were the forerunners of modern draught horse breeds,[10] the historical record does not support the Destrier being a draft horse.[11][9]

Modern attempts to reproduce the destrier type usually involve crossing an athletic riding horse with a light draft type. These includes crossbreds such as the "Spanish Norman", a cross between the Percheron and the Andalusian [12] and the Warlander a cross between the Andalusian and the Friesian horse.

[edit] Value of quality war horses

A good destrier was expensive. 7th century Salic law gives a price of 12 solidi as weregild, or reparational payment, for a war horse, compared to 3 solidi for a sound mare or 1 solidus for a cow. In later centuries destriers became even more expensive: the average value of each of the horses in a company of 22 knights and squires in the county of Flanders in 1297 compares to the price of seven normal coursers.[13] The price of these destriers varied between 20 and 300 livres parisis (parisian pounds), compared to 5 to 12 livres for a normal courser.
 
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