Naughty15tracy's questions about 1980s combats, kit, etc.

[chrisf]

For clarification, Rangers, or an army unit that has Rangers in it's name (Queen York Rangers for example)?

 

[George Wallace]

For clarification, Rangers, or an army unit that has Rangers in it's name (Queen York Rangers for example)?

For clarification:  Who are you addressing that question to?

 

[Michael OLeary]

For clarification, Rangers, or an army unit that has Rangers in it's name (Queen York Rangers for example)?

See reply #7.

 

[CEEBEE501]

it is for a display case and finding certian items is rare even for the 1970s/1980s. the only reason why i was thinking about the rangers was because i can not find an old map of a military post or base (like c.f.s. naniamo) that would have been carried by a soldier, but finding any other map of the bush of the same scale and age, may take a bit but can be done. also, using display rounds in stripper clips placed in the pouches makes more sence than not having them in fnc1 magazines. i would use fnc1 magazines, but we can not own them (unless i am wrong on that). also, i am just picky and would like to make sure everything is correct, right down to the lint in the pockects.

hehe I know where the old maps of Nanaimo are
Interesting that you used it as an example, you dont happen to be a Nanaimoite?

 

[naughty15tracy]

thats where the c scot r did training, whom my dad (rip) was one back in 1983. where can i get 1 and how much?

 

[chrisf]

See reply #7.

I see her refer to the "rangers" and the "canadian rangers" and I also see several of references to the lee enfield, but given that the issue to the rangers in the 80s was pretty much a Lee Enfield and a red sweater, and given that there were a variety of questions asking about combats, webbing, C1, etc, it's a reasonable question.. it wouldnt be the first time somone confused the Canadian Rangers, and an army unit with rangers in their name.

 

[211RadOp]

Size small.  In everything.

At 5 foot FA, I would go with Short/Small as the size.  (And yes that was a size then)

 

[George Wallace]

thats where the c scot r did training, whom my dad (rip) was one back in 1983. where can i get 1 and how much?

This is where everyone gets their maps these days:

http://maps.nrcan.gc.ca/index_e.php

 

[Matt_Fisher]

are the rangers using the p82 web gear too?

I don't believe it's on any scale of entitlement for the Rangers, but I could be wrong; various Ranger Patrol Groups can squirrel away various bits of kit for their detachments, but I imagine it varies as to how generous their respective ASU supply/clothing stores are.  I.E. if there's a bunch of old '82 pattern stuff that is to be slated to be disposed of through Crown Assets, the Rangers or Cadet region may have first crack at the stuff before it's catalogued and sold off.  Not meaning the stuff is taken off the books and just given away, but the various supply paperwork is done to transfer it onto the books of either the cadet region or Ranger Patrol Group.

As such, the Rangers are very much the 'poor cousins' of the Army and generally about the only issued items you'd find that all Rangers receive are:
Ranger hooded sweatshirt
Ranger T-shirt
Ranger Ballcap
OD (now gradually being replaced by CADPAT) combat trousers
Black Mk III or 'Prospector' (?) type boots
Lee Enfield Rifle & Ammunition

Now the question has been raised, are you referring to the Canadian Rangers, or the Rocky Mountain Rangers?

 

[Shamrock]

thats where the c scot r did training, whom my dad (rip) was one back in 1983. where can i get 1 and how much?

Or the Canadian Scottish Regiment?

 

[Loachman]

thats where the c scot r did training, whom my dad (rip) was one back in 1983. where can i get 1 and how much?

Old maps show up at shows sometimes, like model railway shows and perhaps militaria shows. EBay might also be a source.

If your father left the CF in 1983, he was probably wearing 64 Pattern webbing.

Have you contacted his Regiment for information and advice?

 

[Gunplumber]

I think I have all my old kit. I joined in 1983 and I think I still have a set of short small combats and I still have the old "velcro" webbing. I might even have some old combat boots. If your interested I will have a look.

 

[armyvern]

Somehow I'm thinking this won't be an issue for you naughty15 (& I sincerely hope that isn't your age - if so, PM me your mother's email addy ...)

(General references to "looking like Ellen Page even with the short do like hers" mean sweet fuck all to me or the average person).

No need to send the chest size as you've already ensured to toss that out there.

Height?
Arm length (shoulder to wrist)?
Hips?
Waist?
Head?

You can post them in inchs or cms ... I'll convert them to the mil sizes of the 80s kit for you and will advise what sizes of applicable items you are looking for.

If you're wearing a 5 1/2 ladies running shoe, then you're looking for a size 2.5/3 combat boot.

 

[Greymatters]

it is for a display case and finding certian items is rare even for the 1970s/1980s. the only reason why i was thinking about the rangers was because i can not find an old map of a military post or base (like c.f.s. naniamo) that would have been carried by a soldier, but finding any other map of the bush of the same scale and age, may take a bit but can be done. also, using display rounds in stripper clips placed in the pouches makes more sence than not having them in fnc1 magazines. i would use fnc1 magazines, but we can not own them (unless i am wrong on that). also, i am just picky and would like to make sure everything is correct, right down to the lint in the pockects.

I have old maps from the 80's I used, but not from Nanaimo...

 

[Bzzliteyr]

I have a lot of gear from the early 90's.. not sure if the gear fits the bill but i was a "wee fellow" back then.  I am sure my sizes would be close to the same.

 

[armyvern]

I have a lot of gear from the early 90's.. not sure if the gear fits the bill but i was a "wee fellow" back then.  I am sure my sizes would be close to the same.

Back then!!?? Last time I saw you, you were still a shrimp.  ;D

 

[naughty15tracy]

Thanks guys. the 4 things i am still looking at getting are: Military map (c.f.s. naniamo from 1983 +/- 1 or 2 years) would be the best or c.f.b. wainwright from 1985, other than that any military map that was used my a foot soldier and is folded to fit his/her pocket), Tam o’Shanter (size 7 1/8 wich should fit me or a small teen girl), C Scot R tartan swatch or what ever you call the piece of cloth behind the cap badge, i have a set of combat boots but the mk3, so if i could find a mk1 that would be cool. other than thatall i need is info and maybe some pics of items from that time period. i can not believe how hard it is to find sertian items or even the info about gear from than. but here are some questions for you all (besides the other questions abouve):
1. field pay from the early 80s to mid 80s; how much and what denomination was it in? what pocket did they carry their wallet, keys, lighter, smokes, gum, and what ever in? even though i picked up some grey wool socks, i am not sure if they are the actual style used so if anyone can tell me about them or if you have a pic of them that would be cool, how do you ladder lace your boots, or how did they lace combat boots? what should dose the lanyard go on and what would be the normal thing attached to it? any idea where i can find original combat name tape (i found a set of ones very simular but still off a bit)? i am assuming this, but underwear is just the ones you buy at the canex/sears, same with bras (taking it that females warn them)? i think that is it for the basic gear, the only other thing i am woundering is how would you pack all your gear for going over seas. oh, and by the way, my dad used to have the p53 pattern gear (i think it was called p53 gear, the stuff from the 1950s) because he said the velcro stuff from the 1960s was , well lets just say, he hated it. i have been looking on tebay for the 1950s gear and for the map, but very little have been on there for web gear and no old military maps from the 1980s ever show up on ebay. i would probably find getting an fnc1 easier than finding a map. thanks for all the help guys.

and for the "wee fellow" if you where around 5' to 5'2" if you could shoot me your sizes from back than, i could probably go with them as a size guide. specialy for the combat boot size and beret size, even though i would probably have to try  fitting a few pairs of boots and several berets to get the right size for me. thanks

 

[naughty15tracy]

i believe the only other questions i have are female pacific questions that is some what private, and if any female soldiers, ex or still in, would not mind me asking about please get back to me. thanks

 

[armyvern]

i believe the only other questions i have are female pacific questions that is some what private, and if any female soldiers, ex or still in, would not mind me asking about please get back to me. thanks

PM me; I am female - so they tell me.

And, as I already posted: PM me the measurements I asked for earlier (and where I told you what size combat boots you need - PS: They didn't make MkIs that small as height restrictions were in effect in the CF in those days --- and no chicks were infantry either) ... and I'll give you your '80s' sizes for the kit.

 

[Bzzliteyr]

And trust Vern.. as she was just near retirement in the 80's.. so she can help you out!